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Post by mrmatt on Apr 23, 2008 19:10:25 GMT -5
I really wouldn't change anything. I think StD is perfect the way it is. The only thing I can think to do is give Drakken and Shego more screen-time. Oh, and I would take out the scene where Kim kicks Shego into the tower, and possibly the scene where she punches Drakken. That was just....un-KP-like to treat the villains in such a way. See I found those scenes to be some of the most realistic of the movie to be honest. Not the surviving being kicked into an electified tower mind you but more along the you can only push someone so far until they hit back. Kp and Shego might have duked it out in a serious manner a number of times before hand but she nor Drakken had ever really gotten inside Kim's head like they had in StD. KP's reaction worked because she was showing Drakken and Shego that they had deffinately crossed a line and needed to be punished. To be honest the first time I saw StD I totally thought Kim had killed Shego with that kick at first.
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Post by cadmus on May 2, 2008 22:05:09 GMT -5
I agree. Everybody knows that "Ron Stoppable" was the name of the show's 4th season. If I can go off topic for a second, I'd like to point out that Ron wasn't overexposed in the 4th season, so much as Kim didn't get the screen time she should have. Example: Did we really need an entire episode solely focused on cousin Larry believing he was in an RPG? All that episode did was allow Kim to accept Larry's Sci-Fi lifestyle, didn't we see that in Monkey Fist Strikes? Personally I think part of the blame should go to the VIP's for not finding ways to involve Kim more, when in past seasons they didn't seem to have that problem.
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Post by drakkensgurl on May 10, 2008 15:06:52 GMT -5
RPG?
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Post by DP on May 10, 2008 19:13:09 GMT -5
RPG? Role-Playing Game.
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Post by zongz on Jun 20, 2008 2:19:40 GMT -5
Agree with blak. The movie could've been less cliched. You know, girl falls for guy. Guy is jerk. Girl finds out she was always in love with non-jerky best friend. Despite that, I still like StD quite a lot. The Ron/Kim kiss was awesome. Really. French kiss much...
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Post by Nutzkie on Jun 26, 2008 20:41:18 GMT -5
So who's the poor woman that had to...er...snu snu Drakkie? Someone who was really, really drunk at the time.
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Post by The Yetimonster on Jul 7, 2008 15:05:14 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, I actually could get behind the whole 'Ron gets a syntho-girlfriend' thing in STD. But that's only if it was focused not so much on Ron and his new squeeze but on Kim finally coming to terms with her own feelings/jealousies/whatever towards Ron, something that we had already seen a bit of in the third season, and even near the end of the second.
Though, really that's nothing but a role reversal. Ah well.
Maybe I'm saying this because I just re-watched the third season and right from the git-go it seemed like Kim was the one who (subtly) wanted to move the relationship forward. 'Ron Night', "what if you brought a date?" , "there's still fireworks", dragging Ron to Montana, etc.
...and then there's her psycho-stalker action in Gorilla Fist. Yiesh.
It's too bad the whole 'Recognizing just how important Ron is and thus removing him from Kim' thing was already done in ASiT by Shego. That whole 'As a team, you're solid. Why? Don't know, don't care.' would've been GOLD coming from the lips of Drakken in STD. Oh well...I'm not one of the show's writers!
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Post by Cody MacArthur Fett on Jul 8, 2008 10:51:43 GMT -5
If I could have written So the Drama . . .
. . . I'd be rich! ;D
But no, seriously, I honestly have no idea what I'd do. It's kinda like going back and eliminating Hitler from history. Sure, you stopped a madman, but now the Soviets are swarming across the border. Remove one problem and you create another.
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Post by Donne on Jul 8, 2008 14:44:47 GMT -5
Kim did diss the possibility of a relationship with Ron sometimes, although that type of thing was more frequent in the first and second seasons. Example: Kim: You and me... on a date?! Ron: It could happen. I mean, you know, not that we would, you know. But if someone didn't know we were just best friends then, they saw us together at the feel-good film of the year, conclusions may be drawn. Kim: Yeah, ah-huh, Ron, I'm going to say something I've never said this to you before. Ron: What? Kim: You're thinking too much! - Grudge Match
As for Ron getting a syntho-girlfriend, daccu65 incorporated that in his fanfiction "Ron Goes to the Mat". Yeah, I realize not everyone's a fanfic reader, though.
I thought "So the Drama" was done well, and I'm glad Ron realized his feelings for Kim first, not the other way 'round. I liked seeing him have to take the initiative for a change. The only thing I think I'd change was hooking up Monique with Brick. I'd don't think he's her type, and the relationship didn't seem to last through season 4 (although at the time, there wasn't going to be any more episodes, so the writers didn't have to worry about that).
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Post by mike on Jul 26, 2008 5:48:00 GMT -5
If I've written "So the Drama", I would merge it with the Graduation episode, creating the ulitmate five-episode finale :-)
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Jul 30, 2008 17:36:12 GMT -5
I like the first posers idea, have Monkey Fist be the main villain and let Kim fight for Ron's feelingsXD
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Post by GT on Aug 6, 2008 22:53:39 GMT -5
What Ash just said. Yet, I felt that something else was lacking. Maybe a few more Ron fights, and a bit more about how Kim feels about all of this. As far as I remember, STD focused on Ron's feelings and inner turmoil more than Kim's.
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Post by shegosidekick on Aug 14, 2008 8:02:07 GMT -5
Shego can always use more screen time (seriously, who doesn't love her to pieces?!)
IMHO, So the Drama was practically flawless, even surprising me with the Erik-being-a-synthodrone twist (and I can usually see plot twists coming a mile away!) Yes, it was cliched, and the Ron-Kim-Eric triangle did remind me of the Lizzie McGuire Movie, except written better (*dodges flames from Lizzie fans*) But I thought it came across as very realistic nontheless. Honestly, that scene with Ron in his bedroom breaks my heart everytime.
If I did have to change one thing, it would be Kim kicking Shego into the electric tower. There's no way in hell she would have survived that, and the fact that she did made it just a bit far-fetched. I remember gasping at that part when I first saw the movie, thinking, "They DID NOT just kill off my all-time favorite KP character!!"
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Post by Aero Tendo on Aug 15, 2008 22:13:31 GMT -5
Mankey would have appeared and had lines. I would have hinted that there is a 'real' Eric out there - and he's Drakken's secret son. I'd have dropped that bit about Ron letting Drakken and Shego get away at the club - HE DIDN'T DO ANY SUCH THING! Nah, I think it was better that the 'Erik' (I've seen it spelled this way and I'm sticking to it) was a synthodrone. Once Shego had said "personality" upgrade I knew that Drakken had planned a clone. Though I had originally thought he was going to swap KP's Erik with a clone and hurt her that way. Oh, and Argus... I really love your KP mini-banner that you have. I wish I had one just like it (or it for that matter) because of how cool it looks.
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Post by Muzzlehatch on Oct 8, 2008 21:41:43 GMT -5
I would have dropped the scene at the end where Shego is shown in the paddy wagon with Drakken and the henchmen, and would have had her die when the tower came down on her. I know that it sounds heartless, but she wasn't surrendering when Kim kicked her. Of course, that would have probably earned the episode a PG rating.
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Post by mtkau on Feb 24, 2009 3:47:03 GMT -5
What I would have done?
I'd have Ron stand up for himself when Erik crashes him talking with Kim in the treehouse.
Ron tells KP that all the wannaweep stuff was nothing compared to not being with Kim.
In the movie she then switches to talking about Erik and Ron, and they will still be friends. She also emotes that Ron is simply acting too immature. It's clearly a poke towards Ron needing to step up so to speak.
Ron then says "maybe I don't want to grow up, not if ..." and bang, Erik strides in. It's obvious he's going to say "not if it means losing you", they talk for a few more minutes.
Erik pops up, and that is just not cool. Ron jumps down from the treehouse, and would probably get shouty, and only restrained by Kim telling him not to do anything to Erik.
From that encounter, there would probably get some sort of realisation from Kim that Ron probably has more than just friend feelings for her, even if Ron doesn't put it into so many words, and that Ron's actions are saying so much more than his words.
Erik would still invite Kim to the prom, and she'd still accept, because Ron's still not put it into meaningful, deliberate words and actions towards Kim.
Instead, we get Erik jump in, take Kim away then invite her to the Prom.
I'd probably have that scene set earlier in the day than it is in the movie.
The next scene would be Kim and Monique. Monique isn't exactly stupid, and can probably be smart enough to realise what's happening, and gradually talk Kim towards her own feelings to Ron, or at least an acceptance of what he would need to do to make that step up. Which would be making his feelings known, in a more mature manner than attempted fisticuffs vs Erik.
Then you have the Ron and Rufus scene.
Ron figures out his feelings on his own: "Kim's worth it", but then his lack of confidence leading to the "total flameout" and being too safe.
Maybe he meets Felix at the Bueno Nacho, and discusses his own thoughts with him. Felix would remind Ron that though Erik is "a hottie", Ron has been there, if Kim ever needs him, at a moments notice for 12 years, to do anything Kim needs. Ron would realise Kim is worth taking the risk about their friendship and against Erik.
From there, you get into the main scheme, so to speak, with the Diablos and Erik captured etc etc. That would all play out pretty much the same way until they get captured.
The out there, in here scene. I don't like this because Ron says the words, and aw, shucks rufus pops up right as Ron's about to clearly state that Ron. Wants. Kim. A 2 or 3 minute scene here where Ron lays it all out, and Kim responds in kind is what I really think this movie could do with.
I'd prefer it if Ron took out Erik on his own, and not the Rufus bite. It would give Ron something more worthwhile in the movie than what he does do (although capturing drakken is pretty impressive).
I know Ron loves Bueno Nacho, but Drakken really should be "paying" for toying with Kim's feelings "No-one messes with MY Kim's feelings", and not blowing up a fast food shop.
In short: * Ron says the "Not if it means losing you" line. * Erik and Ron get into an almost fight, Ron goes beyond "Erik is taking my Best Friend" and almost into "Erik is taking my Girlfriend", Kim stops Ron from starting a proper fight. * This puts the "Ron likes me" card in Kim's mind. * Kim accepts Erik invitation to prom, as Ron's still not mature * Kim and Monique discuss Ron and Erik, Kim decides Ron needs to mature before she could go out with him. * Total Flameout scene still happens. Ron tricks himself into beliving that Kim would pick Erik instead of him, and that it would ruin their friendship. * Ron and Felix discuss the same, and enlighten Ron that the risk is worth it, and what good qualties Ron has. * Get captured. * "Out there, in here" still happens. * Ron finally says that he wants Kim. * Ron lays out why he wants Kim, and why Kim should want him. * Kim accepts Ron's new maturity, and is about to say something when. * Rufus finally pops up, they get free. * Ron kills Erik. * Kim blows up the tower and knocks Shego off. * Ron captures Drakken and makes it clear that it's for hurting and manipulating Kim's feelings. * Kim takes Ron to go to the Dance. * The End.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 25, 2009 8:53:38 GMT -5
DO WANT!
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Post by kpfightforfive on Feb 25, 2009 13:35:39 GMT -5
the only Difference I would add is that it was a little bit longer and a film and not a feature TV animation (i mean it should of been a film that you would of saw at the cinema, Thats what i would of changed)
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Post by millinniummany3k on Apr 14, 2009 9:33:31 GMT -5
If I wrote StD I would have had Kim actually kill Shego in cold blood, and probably made an issue of it in the film. I would have also had a stinger post credits or pre credits scene where Shego emerges from the rubble, enraged beyond belief, as a setup for the fourth season, not that there was going to bee one at the time but, meh.
I would have made a few stylistic changes, made the art and story more teen\adult in tone, had the tone of the title sequence. In many ways it was a teen romance, but at the same time it was a Disney teen romance. I dunno, I wonder if there was perhaps another better way to tell the story. I guess because it had an air of finality to it there seemed to be something to it, how things were coming to an end.
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Post by itunesbabe on Apr 15, 2009 15:09:43 GMT -5
i would have included a 'credits scene' at the end - maybe the other characters reactions to kim/ron as a new pairing
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