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Post by Dr. Feelgood on Jan 13, 2009 18:23:53 GMT -5
Heyo, what's this? FAF? I am intrigued.... Though personally I'm on the fence about the matter, more seasons or not, I'm happy either way. Still, people who obsess unhealthily will always find things to obsess unhealthily about. I do not believe that KP is cartoon crack. But what do I know, I joined late. Point against: If I remember correctly, Steve Loter said, when learning of the vast number of fanfics, something to this effect (during one of the chats): ~4700? And we thought we were running out of stories!~ Make of it what you will. What confuses me, though, is the apparent lack of curiosity*. Oh well... *(Edit: On the part of those opposed, that is. Just to be clear.) Unnecessary PS!: (@ eclogite) Holy crap, a fellow Pastafarian! May his noodly appendage bless you in ways hard to describe without giggling! RAMEN!
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 13, 2009 19:31:11 GMT -5
Plus, don't think I'd want to see the same stuff happen for a third time. I mean, season 3 ended, fight for four, they won, season 4 came, then it ended, fight for five... you see the pattern? It'll be an endless circle. Nothings wrong with wanting to get the most out of a show as possible as long as it doesnt Jump The Shark and Kim Possible has not done that before and I wouldnt expect it to Jum The Shark in Season 5, Season 6, Season 7, Season 8, or Season 9 as long as it's done by Bob, Mark, and Steve and continued to have Brian Swenlin, Kurt Weldon, Thomas Hart, and etc keep writing the episodes. I would not want KP to continue under different creators. I don't know why some of you would be worried with the same creators and writers. They put out quality work. They won't just put out episodes to put them out. Look everybody knows what Mark said at that luncheon and even what Bob has stated here on the forum. With that said they have also stated that who knows if in a year or two disney asks them back what they would do. As of right now it's done. Nobody is denying that. But to say the FFF is dead you guys are sadly mistake. YFWE and Nemisis Prime, You were probably thinking the same crap when people were fighting for a fourth season of KP and TPTB stated Kim Possible was done. You probably thought KP was dead for sure. If it keeps winning then more power to us. There was a definitive conclusion. Actually, there were two of them. That's better than a lot of tv shows get. We don't need more. Also, it seems like the quality was starting to drop in season 4. No need to to see it hit rock-bottom in a season 5. That's a bunch of BS and you know it. The quality was at the best it had ever been in Season 4. Heck i would not mind another sealed with a kiss finale is a Season 5, Season 6, Season 7, Season 8, Seaspn 9, and Season 10. I will never get enough of Kim/Ron. I also think it would be best if Kim Possible faded out so that people with unhealthy obsessions for it and letting it rule their life and actually cause themselves emotional distress about it can finally move the hell on and laugh at their ridiculous obsessive hold on it in the future. It's just a TV show there to entertain, not take hold so all you can ever do is live and breathe it and act like you'll die without it. This is just hate speak right here. Move the hell on? No thanks.
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Post by YFWE on Jan 13, 2009 19:42:47 GMT -5
I wasn't thinking the same thing. I wasn't a KP fan then.
Sorry.
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Post by The Yetimonster on Jan 13, 2009 19:46:45 GMT -5
My reasons, most of which have been touched on already:
1. I'm quite satisfied with what I got. If any more KP stuff came out, maybe an hour-long '10-year Middleton High Class Reunion' special AT MOST would be okay.
2. The show was definitely starting to suck wind in season 4, even though some of it's best moments also came in season 4 (but they were fewer and further apart. Season 5 would probably continue sliding.
3. Demanding MORE MORE MORE just seems greedy and ungrateful.
Honestly, the level of entitlement displayed by some FFF posters around here makes me want to puke. Sometimes they genuinely sound like a spoiled 8 year old girl throwing a fit because she wanted the Malibu Barbie, Malibu Barbie Corvette, and Malibu Barbie beach house...but only got the doll and the car.
All good things must come to an end.
4. How the heck is Disney supposed to just pick the project up now that the entire staff is scattered?
5. A fifth season would have a pretty whiffy storyline I think. The storyline was wound down, KP and Ron grew up, defeated the ultimate baddies, and now they've moved on. How to re-start the show from there? Good question.
6. I don't think the viewers are going to be there.
7. These demands and screams for more KP put sort of put Disney in the position of being the enemy. I don't want Disney to be the enemy. I'll admit I'm a KP fan first, Disney fan second (KP was the first Disney anything in a long time that caught my attention) but I still don't like the idea of fans trying to shout/bully them into doing something as if they're some foe to be vanquished.
What I want is for KP to be retired gracefully (done), for Disney to eventually start doing more animation shows (HSM is gross, kthnxbye. Though, I understand that it's what the current Disney core viewers want.) and for Disney to one day make another animated show as witty, fun, entertaining, and all-round high-quality as KP was.
Some U.S.-market KP dvd boxsets would be nice too.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 13, 2009 19:47:15 GMT -5
Well gosh....that is just shocking.
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Post by YFWE on Jan 13, 2009 19:48:09 GMT -5
Still voids your original argument against me. :/ Once again, sorry.
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Jan 13, 2009 23:11:10 GMT -5
Hi All, I think it's Best that the people of the Kim Possible Fight Against Five just move on with their Unhealthy Obsessions over The Kim Possible Fight For Five. For The Kim Possible Fight For Five is just a Hobie for a group of people to help bring back a show that should continue, in which brings them Happiness and Joy, unlike the Fear and Suffering that The Kim Possible Fight Against Five brings others. It's just a TV show there to entertain, not take hold of you and cause you all to suffocate and act like you'll die if there is another season. I would suggest that you not Obsess over what others do, and worry about your own Emotionally Distressed lives, instead. Tell me that when I'm a 40 year old man wearing kitty ears and carrying around an anti-season five Kim Possible umbrella and I'll listen. By the by, your ~epic change~ of what I said didn't work. I am not obsessed with the FFF - it's always in my face because you guys are always throwing it around in people's faces (lead, follow, or get out of the way?). A hobby is fine, but you guys are really scary at just how much you spam and talk about Kim Possible like it was a species of animal going extinct. Kim isn't going anywhere. Fear and suffering? Is this another Nazi reference? We're actually making you feel fear and suffering? See my original post before you poke with it. I won't die if there's another season - it's just a TV show. FAF can just see that it doesn't need another - Kim Possible is just perfect how it is right now. Oh darn, I must really hate Kim Possible to think that. And I'm not obsessed - you guys throw yourselves out there and it makes us concerned. Silly us concerned with people who act like they have an unhealthy obsession. Now tell me again what is wrong with what I'm saying? Here's a summary in case you can't follow: FFF in everyone's face. Hobbies are fine. FFF suggestion of feeling fear and suffering. Kim Possible is perfect how it is now. Us concerned with unhealthy obsessions.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 14, 2009 1:05:12 GMT -5
wow. just wow. no wonder the other mods left as well as tptb. People like you dragging it down. Might as well close the forum if we can't talk about kp. This is a Kim Possible board. We can't talk about Kim Possible. What about the 40 + year olds that posted here who basically left because of a lot of you like for example Commander Argus, CloudMonet, RD, and MrDrP. Not to mention a lot of my favorite posters that are not around any more like Yvj.
No, it's not because they grew out of kp. It's because of the discrimination. Oh you guys are 40 so you can't be into KP or talk about it. It's not an unhealthy obsession. That's some crap.
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Keep on preaching lord victorino.
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Jan 14, 2009 1:10:42 GMT -5
...Did you even read my post? :<
I knew a lot of 40 year old men back in the day that were members of this board that loved KP and they were awesome.
They didn't leave, though, 'cause they got emotionally offended by something, they just moved on normally.
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Post by lordvictorino on Jan 14, 2009 2:50:01 GMT -5
Hi All, I think it's Best that the people of the Kim Possible Fight Against Five just move on with their Unhealthy Obsessions over The Kim Possible Fight For Five. For The Kim Possible Fight For Five is just a Hobie for a group of people to help bring back a show that should continue, in which brings them Happiness and Joy, unlike the Fear and Suffering that The Kim Possible Fight Against Five brings others. It's just a TV show there to entertain, not take hold of you and cause you all to suffocate and act like you'll die if there is another season. I would suggest that you not Obsess over what others do, and worry about your own Emotionally Distressed lives, instead. Tell me that when I'm a 40 year old man wearing kitty ears and carrying around an anti-season five Kim Possible umbrella and I'll listen. By the by, your ~epic change~ of what I said didn't work. I am not obsessed with the FFF - it's always in my face because you guys are always throwing it around in people's faces (lead, follow, or get out of the way?). A hobby is fine, but you guys are really scary at just how much you spam and talk about Kim Possible like it was a species of animal going extinct. Kim isn't going anywhere. Fear and suffering? Is this another Nazi reference? We're actually making you feel fear and suffering? See my original post before you poke with it. I won't die if there's another season - it's just a TV show. FAF can just see that it doesn't need another - Kim Possible is just perfect how it is right now. Oh darn, I must really hate Kim Possible to think that. And I'm not obsessed - you guys throw yourselves out there and it makes us concerned. Silly us concerned with people who act like they have an unhealthy obsession. Now tell me again what is wrong with what I'm saying? Here's a summary in case you can't follow: FFF in everyone's face. Hobbies are fine. FFF suggestion of feeling fear and suffering. Kim Possible is perfect how it is now. Us concerned with unhealthy obsessions. Hi All, I'll try to keep this brief. FFF in everyone's face. The KPFFF has one small little Section and suddenly we are in everyone's face. I don't think so. If anything, it was the KPFAF Section that got into the Face of the KPFFF Section and not the other way around. Hobbies are fine. No Argument here. FFF suggestion of feeling fear and suffering. The KPFFF fight is with Disney and no one else. But the KPFAF is a fight against a fifth season, so it is a fight against the KPFFF. I tried to warn you. If you can't stand the Heat, maybe the KPFAF Section needs to stay away from the KPFFF Section. Kim Possible is perfect how it is now. You sound Like a Bebe. Nothing is ever Perfect, only Great! but can be even Greater!!! Us concerned with unhealthy obsessions. For the record, I don't wear Kitty Ears. But I don't have a problem with anyone who does. You just need to be true to yourself and not worry about what others do and/or why they do it. Please and Thank You, Tony M. Victorino
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Post by eclogite on Jan 14, 2009 7:51:42 GMT -5
I'm still not getting the repeated references to fear. Expressing a reasonable skepticism regarding observed trends in a production is hardly fear, rather a healthy analysis and grounds for further discussion.
I think it may be safely said that an undue focus on a minor aspect of something, such as the relationship, or lack thereof, between fictional characters is unhealthy (now there is a potential source of fear, for you). Especially so when it leads to foaming attacks on those that don't share that particular enthusiasm. It is rather reminiscent of the foot guy that used to be on this board. One must maintain the line between a healthy hobby and an obsession.
I don't believe anyone said the show was perfect, merely that it seemed complete as presented and unlikely to be improved upon by a return.
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Post by kittypuppy on Jan 14, 2009 7:55:44 GMT -5
Seriously people, by constantly trying to bring KP back you're acting like what came before wasn't enough! Wasn't good enough! Honestly this constant harassment of people who have HEARD IT BEFORE is getting old. Ever heard of the term 'preaching to the choir'? And beside the point, I think it's safe to say that anyone posting on this site is a fan of the show, thus everyone is entitled to their opinion about the show AND how it ended AND if it should continue. Just because some happen to NOT share your opinion doesn't take away their fan status, doesn't mean what they think is 'evil', and doesn't make them bad people. Though you're probably going to miss the point of this post ENTIRELY and take everything I say and twist it around in some semi-retarded way. I don't know why I'm bothering except that it's now five am and I can't sleep.
P.S. The random caps in the middle of sentences? Still very annoying. Fail.
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Post by Knife Wife on Jan 14, 2009 17:40:39 GMT -5
YFWE and Nemisis Prime, You were probably thinking the same crap when people were fighting for a fourth season of KP and TPTB stated Kim Possible was done. You probably thought KP was dead for sure. Here's the thing. At the end of season 3, I was completely unaware of any part of the fandom. Heck, I didn't even realize that So The Drama was intended to be the series finale until a few months later. When I found this site and people fight for a fourth season, I had an overwhelming sense of indifference. I didn't care.Only if BS= Brilliant Stuff. In terms of animation, yes. In characterization and plot, no. That's obsession. Seriously. And it's kind of disturbing.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 14, 2009 18:25:58 GMT -5
That's obsession. Seriously. And it's kind of disturbing. You are disturbed.
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Post by Lord FunkyHoof on Jan 14, 2009 18:57:22 GMT -5
Okay now you're just sounding like a child with school yard comebacks, slick.
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Post by Panther on Jan 14, 2009 21:16:07 GMT -5
That's obsession. Seriously. And it's kind of disturbing. You are disturbed. I hope you're aware of how close that comeback is to "your face is disturbed", and I hope you're aware of why that's a bad thing. I'm equal parts disturbed and amused by the attacks we're getting for thinking a cartoon ended well and that a continuation isn't necessary. That's just crazy. Do we wander into the FFF board to insult you? Are we telling you to stop fighting? This is the Fight Against Five, not the Fight Against The Fight For Five.
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Jan 14, 2009 22:03:33 GMT -5
The KPFFF has one small little Section and suddenly we are in everyone's face. I don't think so. If anything, it was the KPFAF Section that got into the Face of the KPFFF Section and not the other way around. You said you weren't an activist in the FFF and just have it as a "hobie" so I guess you wouldn't know the extent of it. The KPFFF fight is with Disney and no one else. But the KPFAF is a fight against a fifth season, so it is a fight against the KPFFF. I tried to warn you. If you can't stand the Heat, maybe the KPFAF Section needs to stay away from the KPFFF Section. Warn us? Well we were in the FAF section, and not the FFF section, and you guys came stormin' out yourselves to show us up. Is that not in our face? You sound Like a Bebe. Nothing is ever Perfect, only Great! but can be even Greater!!! But for what the show was intended to be, a girl in high school that fought crime, the only perfect ending there could be is graduation. That makes sense. It's just go astray and scattered all over the place in something like college, and not in the same spirit. For the record, I don't wear Kitty Ears. But I don't have a problem with anyone who does. You just need to be true to yourself and not worry about what others do and/or why they do it. That obsession comment was not about the kitty ears. Anyone of any age being too obsessed with something is just not healthy. In terms of Kim Possible, anyone can like it, but when you obsess, it starts to get a little creepy... Just happens to be a little creepier the higher age you are... And because you brought them up again specifically, an older man wearing cat ears is creepy as hell in my book. If my dad started to wear them, as well as have a Kim Possible umbrella and backpack and pins, I would be concerned. I call it like I see it.Kim Possible needs to fade so people with these obsessions can move on. You can always love it, but da mn. Speaking of Kim Possible merchandise, I have a ton of it and I plan on selling it sometime soon and just keeping a few like the poster on my wall. I had considered selling some to people here, but I think I'll just go to eBay.
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Post by eclogite on Jan 14, 2009 22:07:45 GMT -5
Guess I'll be putting that KP kabuki head back out in the tool shed, then.
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Post by Beaglebub on Jan 15, 2009 4:35:42 GMT -5
Kim Possible needs to fade so people with these obsessions can move on. You can always love it, but da mn. I don't even watch the show anymore. I don't have to. I think about it all the time though, because it makes me happy. It's in my heart, I guess. Does that make me obsessed? I don't know. I'm also at a "creepy" age too....I'm 40. It's just nice to love something innocent, in this miserable world.
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Jan 15, 2009 6:40:48 GMT -5
It's only creepy at certain ages when someone is ridiculously obsessed with it. I don't think you are, you don't seem to be. There's nothing wrong with finding something that makes you happy, but if you get emotionally distressed or anxiety over certain aspects of it, then I'll have to wonder, LOL.
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