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Post by atecom on Jan 15, 2009 8:30:19 GMT -5
Okay now you're just sounding like a child with school yard comebacks, slick. YOU'RE A child with schoolyard comebacks...
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Jan 15, 2009 9:16:13 GMT -5
Okay now you're just sounding like a child with school yard comebacks, slick. YOU'RE A child with schoolyard comebacks... NO U
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Fusion Fox
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Post by Fusion Fox on Jan 15, 2009 9:34:03 GMT -5
It's only creepy at certain ages when someone is ridiculously obsessed with it. I don't think you are, you don't seem to be. There's nothing wrong with finding something that makes you happy, but if you get emotionally distressed or anxiety over certain aspects of it, then I'll have to wonder, LOL. This. I don't think anybody here is saying you can't like KP if your an adult. If I think of RD I don't think that he's weird and creepy, he just has something that he likes and why shouldn't he, its not hurting anybody. But when it comes to other people, growing up and still having childlike obsessions that hurt either you or the people near you then its time to rethink your life plan. As serge said, getting emotionally distressed over something this trivial isn't good. Yes I said it, KP is just a TV show remember. I know people are going to reply to me saying that "TO THEM its more than a TV show", to which I'd probably reply that they might want to take a break from TV I have books, TV shows, movies that I love. I have bands that I LOVE. But at the end of the day I know they're still just forms of entertainment and I try not to let them define my life and my existence. If something happened to any of those things I may be a little upset but I'm fairly confident I'd be able to be realistic and keep a grasp on what really matters in the world. Even if I did have to rely on my friends to remind me of it at first ;D But now I'm rambling like everybody else, in short: It's fine to love trivial things like this, we all get obsessed and it can be fun. You need to start worrying when it takes over your life and you forget about the other important things. Unfortunately, I know that the people that need to read this most are either going to skip over it or reply with a lame comeback
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Post by Lord FunkyHoof on Jan 15, 2009 9:39:50 GMT -5
You're a lame comeback.
But in all seriousness, I agree. I'd come in and pitch in my two cents, but most of what I have to say has already been said. Plus I'm not really good at this sort of thing anyway.
I'm still a KP fan myself, even if I don't really show it.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 15, 2009 17:47:52 GMT -5
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Post by Beaglebub on Jan 15, 2009 17:54:31 GMT -5
So we've all started this group because we believe that KP should not, under any circumstances, return for a fifth season. The question now is this: why do you believe that the show should stay cancelled? What are your reasons for your fears or dislike of the notion of a fifth season. Why are you 'fighting against five'? Just wondering as an observer..... Question 1: In the FAF's opinion, what makes you different from the "End Kim At 65" people? Are you holdouts from that regime? I mean seriously, I've heard all these arguments against renewal since 2004. I didn't believe them then either. Good thing I didn't, or else I never would have seen KP graduate. Question 2: Did the FAF not enjoy Season Four? Was that the problem? Did the hard won episodes not live up to fantasy? You can't expect to enjoy each and every episode. It nearly sounds like you didn't like Season Four, and you've taken upon yourselves to make sure that never happens again. Question 3: When you say Kim ought not return "under any circumstances" do you mean only the series? Or are you similarly opposed to any special animated movies (for TV or otherwise)? In other words, you never want to see Kim anywhere, ever again.
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Post by Knife Wife on Jan 15, 2009 18:04:28 GMT -5
Just wondering as an observer..... Question 1: In the FAF's opinion, what makes you different from the "End Kim At 65" people? Are you holdouts from that regime? I mean seriously, I've heard all these arguments against renewal since 2004. I didn't believe them then either. Good thing I didn't, or else I never would have seen KP graduate. Well, Kim Possible was about a high-school girl saving the world. Now, she's out of high-school. I was indifferent when people were fighting for season four, but I did think a flat 65 episode rule was a bit silly. Actually, I think season four was not as good as season three. It still had it's moments, but overall, season three was the peak of the show. I don't want to see the show continue to slide downhill. As of right now, I'm content with KP the way it is. I personally have no desire to see it return in any way. EDIT: Actually, the one time special thing YFWE mentions below would be okay. As long as it didn't wind up like the Star Wars holiday Special. D: Also, boxsets are something I'm not opposed to.
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Post by YFWE on Jan 15, 2009 18:07:10 GMT -5
I'll try to answer as best as I can!
1. Eh, I guess there wouldn't be many similarities. However, I (and at least a few others) were not around at that time so it's hard to say. Honestly, I don't think I would've minded a season four back then. It's hard to say because I entered the fandom late.
2. I know that some didn't enjoy season four. I personally thought it was okay, but was not as good as the first three. In my opinion, I don't want a fifth season to decrease in quality again and I (and others) are afraid of seeing that happen.
So in a way, yes.
3. When I say 'under any circumstances' I'm applying it merely to a fifth season. For animated movies, it would depend. I know that Yetah (I think it was Yetah) recommended a "KP: 10 Year HS Reunion"-type special that I personally wouldn't be opposed to seeing. As I've said, we're not opposed to the idea of KP but just to the idea of a fifth season. We'd like boxsets just as much as anyone else, for instance.
I hope this clarifies some things, and don't hesitate to ask anything else, of course.
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Post by eclogite on Jan 15, 2009 18:30:00 GMT -5
Season 4 had it's moments. I don't think it was as good, overall, as season 3. There were certainly some episodes I enjoyed very much, but there were more that struck me as mediocre, particularly the fan service episodes. They came across as stilted, probably because of the perceived need to provide fan service.
There were a couple that grew on me after several viewings, there are also a couple that I grew to like less with repeated exposure.
I'm well past the point where I fantasize about these things, so my expectations tend to be pretty neutral, this was not a factor in my perception of the season. My overall analysis was that season 4 was on a general downhill trend compared to previous seasons. As noted previously, I extrapolate this to continue with additional seasons, hence my disinterest in further serial production. I have mentioned quite a few times that i am amenable to both a movie format and season sets, hopefully with commentary and other "extras" of that stripe.
I oppose terminating a series on some arbitrary criterion such as the "65 rule", but prefer to evaluate it on qualitative and viewership indices. My understanding is that 65 is something of a US TV standard for achieving a reasonable return on syndication rather than a hard and fast rule invoked by Disney or anyone else. If anyone has documentary, as opposed to anecdotal or other apocryphal evidence to the contrary, please provide. In the case of KP, it strikes me that S4 was in a descending spiral.
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Post by Dr. Feelgood on Jan 15, 2009 20:54:44 GMT -5
For my money, I'm not at all concerned about a "downhill trend," real or not. The original episodes stand on their own, and nothing can really degrade them. A new season would require some pretty thorough reinventing of the series, and thus it would be a whole new beast. Are none of you curious to see what they would come up with?
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Post by eclogite on Jan 15, 2009 23:12:57 GMT -5
It is far too hypothetical to pique my curiosity at this stage, I just don't see it living up to the earlier seasons and am not interested in the relationship angle.
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Post by mengsk on Feb 21, 2009 19:12:03 GMT -5
HOLY GOD...! This page CANNOT have gone down well.
Ok, I've never hidden that I think a few more DCOM's is preferable option but this whole forum is bull! A fight AGAINST five? Your only intention is to piss off the people of this Kimmunity!
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Post by YFWE on Feb 21, 2009 20:17:00 GMT -5
Little slow, are we?
It's not the FAF anymore. Check the name.
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Post by The Yetimonster on Feb 21, 2009 20:41:30 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Feb 21, 2009 21:23:25 GMT -5
HOLY GOD...! This page CANNOT have gone down well. Ok, I've never hidden that I think a few more DCOM's is preferable option but this whole forum is bull! A fight AGAINST five? Your only intention is to - off the people of this Kimmunity! We're not the Fight Against Five anymore, gosh. We're the We Think That Kim Possible Doesn't Need Five Seasons - It Ran Its Course And Can End On A High Note - Besides, Disney Has Better And New Things To Do, But If It Actually Happens, Whatever, We'll Roll With It Anyway Since Disney Can Do Whatever They Want. Totally sounds like we want to pi ss everyone off, doesn't it?
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Post by Fusion Fox on Feb 21, 2009 23:50:36 GMT -5
this whole forum is bull!
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Post by mengsk on Feb 22, 2009 16:00:48 GMT -5
Well yeah.... I am out of the loop. Being away for three or four months will result in that. Didn't expect this though. Shoot, I pushed (albet a little too hard) to change the movement for a Fight for DCOM's and was torn a new one. Boy that was only like six months ago!
Ok Serge, valid point. These opinions don't automatically have to be offensive. Untill you make a forum about it in the middle of Fight for Five central. That will generally result in ticking people off. You couldn't just 'not' be involved? Had to make a rival forum right next to the FFF guys? What did you think would happen, that they would accept this merrily and you could all be 'happy' neighbours?
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Feb 22, 2009 16:47:28 GMT -5
Well yeah.... I am out of the loop. Being away for three or four months will result in that. Didn't expect this though. Shoot, I pushed (albet a little too hard) to change the movement for a Fight for DCOM's and was torn a new one. Boy that was only like six months ago! Ok Serge, valid point. These opinions don't automatically have to be offensive. Untill you make a forum about it in the middle of Fight for Five central. That will generally result in ticking people off. You couldn't just 'not' be involved? Had to make a rival forum right next to the FFF guys? What did you think would happen, that they would accept this merrily and you could all be 'happy' neighbours? Well why not? FFF has to be the one with all the special stuff, and everyone else can just stfu and keep it to themselves? Nice.
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Post by mengsk on Feb 22, 2009 17:57:24 GMT -5
Of course everyone should have their own opinion, but you don't build an evolution exhibit right next to the church right? Because then it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of baiting and just asking for trouble.
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Feb 22, 2009 18:22:01 GMT -5
...Well, the forum doesn't belong anywhere else, unless you want me to stick it in the wrong category.
Does this mean that Mexicans and blacks shouldn't move into a white neighbourhood?
THEY'RE JUST BAITING?
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