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Post by Carbon on Oct 11, 2006 19:13:33 GMT -5
Ron was better for Kim because she could be real around him, compared to Josh where she was a little transformed. And guys like someone who is real a lot more than someone who is giggly and crazed, IMO.
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Post by cloudmonet on Oct 11, 2006 22:05:43 GMT -5
Nabu! Get in here! Set poor, confused Mankey on the right path... You mean the wrong path. Anyway, I've got to disagree with Avenger. Josh did seem pretty happy after kissing Kim, as well as dating Tara. IMHO, his comment about the ambassador and the choice of movie (a kung fu flick) indicates that Josh was, at the time of "Crush" and later, attracted to Kim - Kim the warrior, the midriffed hero who saved the ambassador. Josh wanted that strong, independant woman, and what did he get? The babbling, nervous, giggly Kim we see on dates! Ergo he just lets the two of them drift apart, and winds up with Tara (at least for a while). For me at least, the discrepancy between the "warrior Kim" Josh sees on TV and the giggly Kim he meets in the hall is the reason why he looks so strained or whatnot whenever Kim goes into "the Joshzone," to borrow a phrase from MrDrP. Friends, witness this historic moment. For the first time EVER in this thread, I completely agree with Ninjanaco's post. How could that happen?
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Oct 12, 2006 8:57:57 GMT -5
OH MY GOD!!!! Noooooo!
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Post by slicknickshady on Jan 11, 2007 16:53:55 GMT -5
Wow a pretty good thread. I want to see one of these for season 4 so i can be a part of it. I tell myself this. If Ron asked Kim to the prom she would have went with him and she would not have backed out if another guy or erik asked her after that. Since he did not and kim was all messed up about the food chain so she wanted to go with someone to make a statement if it was not with Ron as a Boyfriend it would be someone else as a Boyfriend. She did not want to go to a Prom with just a friend. That would make a statement but it would make a "I'm Pathetic" statement. No matter how tight or how much she loved Ron as a Friend it still is a friend. So my take and i believe there is enough evidence to proove that in the episodes in season 3 going up to the movie like steal wheels and gorilia fist to name a few and the way she got excited when she thought ron was going to ask her to be her boyfriend and go to the prom in so the drama proves that theory.
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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 19, 2007 18:49:31 GMT -5
I hope this bump does not get me in trouble but here it goes and i did not want to ghost bump to get it back to the first page.
------------------------------------------- Ok i just decided this erik and kim thing is bugging me too much so i had to read it and take it though. It made me sad but i made it through. I guess it bugs me because i always imagine my first time being the other persons first time also. I have explained this before but josh, tara, yori, zita, and etc did not bother me at all. Erik and kim did? Why i dont know....
So i made a sort of list about everyhing that bothers me about Erik and kim so maybe i can get over it because i know some of you dont like me not dropping stuff but i have ocd and it's tough for me to drop stuff. So here's what i came up with......
- Maybe because Kim used the word boyfriend about Erik? It's Part of it.
- Because of some of the looks Kim gave Erik? It's Part of it.
- The He's not a guy he's Ron comment? It's Part of it.
- Is it the he's not boyfriend material comment? It's Part of it.
- Is it because kim blows her mom off and says Ron will be fine?It's part of it.
Now i dont want some of you to think im blasting kim because well Ron could have steped up at the locker scene told kim his feelings and Erik would have been a non issue. But this did not happen.
I read some of the posts and have seen some responses to these concerns which i have. I would like to take the viewpoint some of you do is who cares kim/ron are together forever and screw erik he's dead and buried. My ocd does not allow me to do it that easily. So i appreciate some of you humoring me. It's great to have a place like this with Cloud, Avenger, ABL, Nabu, Wallace, Adam, and the great msu fan like myself dracko. You're posts have helped me out the most when it came to worrying about the cupid effect and other things.
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Post by Prophet on Feb 19, 2007 19:52:09 GMT -5
Yeah..I agree with you, but if you look at it Erik DID appear to seem to be a mature version of Ron to Kim. He has a motorcycle while Ron has a scooter. The scooter also WAS a representation of his child-like wonder to Kim. Erik appeared to be kind and sweet just how Ron is like in the eyes of Kim. Erik was like a mere image of RON WITHOUT THE RONNESS to Kim. In my opinion Erik was just a guy that appeared to be Ron to kim. Once Erik revealed his evil ways, Kim realized that there is noone like Ron or close to Ron and Ron is the guy who she really wants to be with. It didn't matter where Ron was located in the food chain or how different he is compared to the guys that are considered "boyfriend material". Kim is the one who has really matured up. It could be said that Ron has matured in season 4 to maintain his reliationship with Kim, but seeing as this is a season 3 reevaluation, i am not going touch up on that.
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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 21, 2007 21:26:21 GMT -5
I mean after i read the transcript more than more kim gave ron two big oppourtunities to tell kim how he felt before erik even asked her to the prom. Once in the hallway before Erik was even see and once in the treehouse when she kind of sensed that something was bothering him and i think kim wanted ron to tell her then in the treehouse. I have to get past this movie now because it makes me too sick to think about. I wish i could block out everything before the end. I mean Kim & Ron are together. If Erik is not bothering Ron anymore Erik should not be bothering me. lol.
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Post by cloudmonet on Feb 23, 2007 14:41:51 GMT -5
So i made a sort of list about everyhing that bothers me about Erik and kim so maybe i can get over it because i know some of you dont like me not dropping stuff but i have ocd and it's tough for me to drop stuff. So here's what i came up with...... - Maybe because Kim used the word boyfriend about Erik? It's Part of it. - Because of some of the looks Kim gave Erik? It's Part of it. - The He's not a guy he's Ron comment? It's Part of it. - Is it the he's not boyfriend material comment? It's Part of it. - Is it because kim blows her mom off and says Ron will be fine?It's part of it. Honestly, Nick, you have a point here, and in some ways Ron would be quite justified to tell Kim to take a hike instead of confessing his love for her— but there's this overwhelming lifelong friendship/evil-fighting partnership between the two of them that totally smites all other considerations, as, indeed, it does this time. One has to look all the way back to "Emotion Sickness" to see why Kim was unwilling to confess her feelings, and farther than that to see why Ron was reluctant to even admit his. "Bad Boy's" "What if you brought a date?" dialog is particularly demonstrative of the elaborate dance going on between the two of them to somehow get around/beyond the friendship/romance barrier.
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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 23, 2007 15:29:17 GMT -5
So i made a sort of list about everyhing that bothers me about Erik and kim so maybe i can get over it because i know some of you dont like me not dropping stuff but i have ocd and it's tough for me to drop stuff. So here's what i came up with...... - Maybe because Kim used the word boyfriend about Erik? It's Part of it. - Because of some of the looks Kim gave Erik? It's Part of it. - The He's not a guy he's Ron comment? It's Part of it. - Is it the he's not boyfriend material comment? It's Part of it. - Is it because kim blows her mom off and says Ron will be fine?It's part of it. Honestly, Nick, you have a point here, and in some ways Ron would be quite justified to tell Kim to take a hike instead of confessing his love for her— but there's this overwhelming lifelong friendship/evil-fighting partnership between the two of them that totally smites all other considerations, as, indeed, it does this time. One has to look all the way back to "Emotion Sickness" to see why Kim was unwilling to confess her feelings, and farther than that to see why Ron was reluctant to even admit his. "Bad Boy's" "What if you brought a date?" dialog is particularly demonstrative of the elaborate dance going on between the two of them to somehow get around/beyond the friendship/romance barrier. Well im slowly getting over this caring about Erik thing. I mean if Ron does not obsess over Erik anymore then why should I? I mean Kim never really dissed Ron on purpose it's just the food chain was messing with her brain. She had no problem with Ron but wanted to make a statement and going with Ron was the thing Everybody expected. I dont think Kim did anything to make ron say "heck with her" but she could have done a little more.
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Post by GnuHopper on Apr 5, 2008 19:56:32 GMT -5
Time to BUMP THIS UP! ;D
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Post by Alexlayer on Apr 5, 2008 20:05:14 GMT -5
Talk about reviving mummies...
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Post by kittykax on Apr 5, 2008 20:44:05 GMT -5
Sounds like someone was bored and decided to skim through the old message board posts
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Post by ferryport1987 on Apr 5, 2008 21:08:12 GMT -5
ya sabemos que Kim y Ron se aman...no hay necesidad para poner un tema estúpida como esta
i just said that we all know how much K/R felt for each other before season 3...but in a quiet way...K/R will always love each other
K/R FOREVER AS WELL AS D/S :-)
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Post by mrmatt on Apr 5, 2008 21:55:07 GMT -5
Wow, I wasn't even a memeber yet when this one had it's last post.
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Post by slicknickshady on Apr 6, 2008 0:46:51 GMT -5
Somebody needs to bum the season 4 thread.
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Post by Forlong on Apr 6, 2008 17:10:46 GMT -5
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Post by slicknickshady on Nov 10, 2008 0:13:49 GMT -5
I hope this bump does not get me in trouble but here it goes and i did not want to ghost bump to get it back to the first page. ------------------------------------------- Ok i just decided this erik and kim thing is bugging me too much so i had to read it and take it though. It made me sad but i made it through. I guess it bugs me because i always imagine my first time being the other persons first time also. I have explained this before but josh, tara, yori, zita, and etc did not bother me at all. Erik and kim did? Why i dont know.... So i made a sort of list about everyhing that bothers me about Erik and kim so maybe i can get over it because i know some of you dont like me not dropping stuff but i have ocd and it's tough for me to drop stuff. So here's what i came up with...... - Maybe because Kim used the word boyfriend about Erik? It's Part of it. - Because of some of the looks Kim gave Erik? It's Part of it. - The He's not a guy he's Ron comment? It's Part of it. - Is it the he's not boyfriend material comment? It's Part of it. - Is it because kim blows her mom off and says Ron will be fine?It's part of it. Now i dont want some of you to think im blasting kim because well Ron could have steped up at the locker scene told kim his feelings and Erik would have been a non issue. But this did not happen. I read some of the posts and have seen some responses to these concerns which i have. I would like to take the viewpoint some of you do is who cares kim/ron are together forever and screw erik he's dead and buried. My ocd does not allow me to do it that easily. So i appreciate some of you humoring me. It's great to have a place like this with Cloud, Avenger, ABL, Nabu, Wallace, Adam, and the great msu fan like myself dracko. You're posts have helped me out the most when it came to worrying about the cupid effect and other things. I thought I had gotten over this. lol. I had but the other day I was flipping through channels and saw So The Drama airing on Toon Disney and now I'm obsessed about this crap again. Somebody talk me down. Anyway, A few things that happened in season four clear a little up about some of those concerns i had. The "It took 12 stinking years for you to kiss me" line in Homecoming Upset proves Kim wishes Ron would have made a move sooner than he did. (They met in Pre-K when they were about 5 and then they kissed at Jr prom which they would have been abot 17) So it seems clear that Kim would have been game for a relationship at anytime after they met but as you always hear it's tough for best friends to take the next step because they are afraid it will complicate the friendship if it doesnt work out. I think it's obvious both kim & ron had that concern. When I think about the boyfriend material line and he's not a guy he's ron comment when kim said Yes in reference to her mom about the reason why Kim at that moment did not consider Ron boyfriend material. I compare that to Eriks discussion with Ron at MHS. When Ron said he didnt think of Kim in that way aka extreme steam. It's obvious in those situations from what we saw in season 4 that Kim & Ron both did think about each other in those ways I italicized. Now on to the looks kim gave erik...that's really not a big deal to me anymore....once you see the looks Kim gives Ron after Ron said "Out there....In here" and Kim said "Oh, Really...." and the looks she gives Ron when Kim say's "Ron..We better Hurry" and Ron say's "Hurry Where" and Kim said "You'll see" in that sort of shy way that you knows she''s been wanting this with ron but being nervous because they have been best friends since pre-K. It looks like i did a pretty good job of talking myself down but still you can take shots at talking me down if you like. And then, the Kim Stoppable show.... That's so beautiful. ;D I would love to see that show...Kim Stoppable. Anyway I have to say reading back on your posts in this thread have talked me down quite a bit. But with Ron, whether moodulated or not, Kim loses no time and skips to some real lip-smacking. Bottom-line: Once pur Kimmie faces up to her feelings for the Ronster, she stops fooling around (or starts, as the case may be .. ) That post helps me quite a bit as well.
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Post by kpcoulditbe on Oct 10, 2009 1:37:27 GMT -5
Looking back at this now ,it's pretty funny.
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