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Post by maetch on Jan 10, 2008 11:06:07 GMT -5
On the flipside of the "Villains that can get their butts kicked" thread, what baddies do you think Kim would actually lose to?
Let's keep Ron out of this discussion, since his MMP makes things too unfair for Kim. I'm talking about Kim in a straight-up battle.
My pick:
*Penelope Spectra (Danny Phantom) - Being a ghost, Kim can have a hard time tagging her with an attack. However, Spectra is a cunning manipulator. She would find a way to tap into Kim's inner psyche and play her emotions against her (Kim's not invincible to a mental blow, as "StD" proved). Then, while Kim's caught off-kilter from her despair, the ghost goes in for the win.
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Post by yes4possible on Jan 10, 2008 12:31:53 GMT -5
Most Anime villains, most of us them have special powers and / or martial arts skills. Except for Team Rocket of course.
Azula (Avatar: The Last Airbender) - I started a thread about this comparision. Azula has awsome Fire Bending power, an evil genious mind, is ruthless and won't give Kim the opening to escape that the other villains do. Just like Pinelople Spector, Azula can use psychology and find out a person's insecurities and use it against her opponent. And the fact she defeated the Avatar in the Avatar State, anyone that can do that, I put nothing past.
If he had any powers like he did during season 4, Slade of Teen Titans could probobly beat Kim, because of his mastering of mind games. But he lack any powers. Still it would be close.
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Post by lecter on Jan 11, 2008 3:19:26 GMT -5
my kind of thread. ok,kp, prepare to meat the guys that are gonna have you for lunch. no particular order: 1.darkseid 2.magneto 3.hannibal lecter(he can literally have her for lunch) 4.deathstroke 5.deadpool 6.dark pheonix 7.the joker 8.two-face(if the coin tells him to) 9.negaduck 10.aku(samurai jack)-she cant do squat to him 11.the akatsuki members(naruto)- itachi uchiha, kisame hoshigaki, tobi,deidara,hidan,pain 12.demon naruto(he aint exactly good. haku said that thee red chakra is pure evil).and if he goes 4 tales, kim and ron better run. 13.hades(disney) 14.maleficent 15.zoom the reverse flash( a enemy of the flash)-he will just speed blitz kim 16.the juggernaut 17.doc ock 18.venom 19.azula(avatar) 20.demona and xanatos(gargoyles) 21.sauron and saruman(lord of the rings) 22.darth vader 23.galactus 24.orochimaru(naruto) 25.parallax 26.lucifer morningstar(dc comics, vertigo branch)-omnipotent 27.angelus(angel,buffy) 28.zabuza and haku (naruto) 29.agent smith(the matrix) 30.the predator 31.the alien 32.the terminator
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Post by Ot@ru on Jan 11, 2008 4:51:48 GMT -5
So many villains...The villains in KP I think are suitable for Kim for her can kick their butt
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Post by rd on Jan 11, 2008 6:10:47 GMT -5
The United States Department of Internal Revenue (The Tax Man!)
LOL!
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Post by yes4possible on Jan 11, 2008 8:13:09 GMT -5
I don't know if this one counts as a villain, it is very borderline, she is right between hero and villain. In the comics she was defentely a villain.
Terra (Teen Titans) - Kim got into a one on one fight with Terra, Kim wouldn't stand a chance going against that power.
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Post by Luke Danger on Jan 11, 2008 21:27:55 GMT -5
Hmmm, the Spirit-Eater curse from Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer would be a, intresting foe.
Basically, the curse is a two bladed sword, the spirit eater could use it against spirits (Fey, Elementals, you know, along that line), but there's a cacth, if the spirit eater doesn't have a constant source of spirits, they'll burn up from inside. Not very healthy. And, since the curse's origin is in a spirit-rich place called Rashmen (Martirial plane, so it's basically the living world), it was very easily a place for a disaster with that, if (like most other Spirit Eaters), get trigger happy with it.
Now, it can also be turned against itself and be supressed by willpower, as it shows when the PC (player character) can show with Okku, who basically tried to stop the curse, and reluctantly went for the PC's throat (Okku met a former Spirit Eater who wanted to end the curse, and Okku was helping him, but they couldn't beat it, so they bound it in a barrow, and Okku, along with Telthors (basically, ghosts) to keep the curse pinned inside, since for them, it's their every nightmare.). But here's the thing, supressing it can really hurt, since it doesn't replenesh the 'spirit energy' (game term used to describe how you're doing with the curse) as well without a spirit nearby. More spirits nearby (about a 10 meter radius), the more it produces because of how much of a show of willpower it is.
While it is a evil-formed tool, it can be turned into one of good. For example, you could turn it into a healing method, or use it to end some crazed elemental or such. It can even be used on spirits (telthor for example), and then the essance left behind could be used to replenish a spirit sanctuary or such (for example, a Telthor Berzerker may volunteer for being devoured so that his essence could be used to restore a Telthor Sanctuary durring some tough times, and he knew it had to be done and was willing). Kim would be wrestling with the curse's negitive effects and urges (it's easily comparible to a drug, because the more the Spirit Eater feeds on spirits, the more he/she needs, represented ingame as 'craving'.) that could blow up in Kim's face (like it does to the players, when (before they had a clue about it), it devoured a wolf spirit, which in turn pissed Okku off, but Okku just wanted to keep the curse pinned and forfill a oath he swore to end the curse, even if it just pinned it down into a hole to keep peopel out).
Problem is, Kim would burn out eventually, I'm doing Mask of the Betrayer, and I play a Paladin (basically, good guy and upholds the law), and, since I rarely get a justifible chance to use it (namely, getting attacked by elementals, plus I usually supress it first, meaning I can't use it till I rest to heal and/or regain spells), and it's hard to keep it up high, though I'm doing a decent job at it.
Ok, so let's say we just chuck Kim into the Barrow, where the curse was pinned at the start of Mask of the Betrayer, and give Kim the curse. She walks out, and on the way, accidently devours a few Telthors (Kim has no clue).
Then Okku gets a army of Telthors, Elementals, Fey, and even dryads (AKA nature spirits for those who don't know), and force Kim to go out. Well, Kim would be stuck, she'd have to choose between going out and risking a catasprophe, or be pinned in the city and burn to death. Kim would probably try to supress it, but, still, she'd face a major moral choice, one of willpower.
In all seriousness, Kim has the willpower, but something tells me she wouldn't last long, since if she keeps supressing it, it may eat her from withen.
Thoughts on using a curse as Kim's enemy?
Sorry, no link I can acturatly find for it. Sorry.
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Post by profweird on Jan 11, 2008 22:07:49 GMT -5
On the flipside of the "Villains that can get their butts kicked" thread, what baddies do you think Kim would actually lose to? That's a trick question ! If the villain is in KP's universe, then KP will win. If - by some miracle - the villain wins the first match, Kim will just have Wade or the tweebs build something to even the odds. Then effortlessly beat the snot out of the villain. As The Infallible One ALWAYS does. If KP ends up in the villain's universe, then the villain has a chance of winning. 'Hard' ?!?! Try 'impossible', as normal matter has no effect on ethereal matter ! Or - Spectra could just possess/overshadow Kim. SHOULD have an excellent chance of working, given that few people have experience in fighting off such an attack; coupled with Spectra's demoralization talents, Kim may never muster the strength of will to get her out. Or : Kim talks to Wade, who adds a spectral phase inverter to her battlesuit. Then Kim effortlessly beats the ectoplasm out of Penelope. Game Over ! Did you notice that, later in this thread, that the vast majority of villains that COULD defeat the supposedly mortal Kim have supernatural or metahuman powers ? But, on the other hand, the only reasons Kim was able to defeat Warmonga in a straight-up fight was because of Shego's distractions, and Warmonga's inexperience with dealing with invisible foes. Warhok slapped her down with just a single backhand to Ron ! An idea of WHY the only villains that could beat Kim have superpowers : www.atomicthinktank.com/viewtopic.php?t=21973&start=665
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Jan 11, 2008 23:24:05 GMT -5
Hmm, villains that could kick Kim's butt... The Daleks! The Gelth! The Autons! The Cybermen! Blon Fel-Fotch Passamir-Day Slitheen! The Master! This ends the Doctor Who portion of the post.
Nocturne! Bizarro! Batzarro! Dark Danny/Dan Phantom! Q! The Borg! Darth Vader! Darth Maul! Venom! Karai! And of course... Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
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Post by manofevil on Jan 12, 2008 0:32:00 GMT -5
Freddy Krueger
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Jan 12, 2008 18:32:04 GMT -5
Uh maetch any ghost from Danny Phantom can beat Kim LOL. Unless she or Wade are ghost experts like Danny/Tucker/Sam are she's not going to have a ghost of a chance AHHHH Puns. Any who I'd say any one with any type of a power can beat her. Shego pretty much is on equal terms with her some times but she does have the upper hand a lot often. The only reason Kim beat Shego in So the Drama was becuase of the super suite.
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Post by *~**Chimp Fist**~* on Jan 12, 2008 21:12:24 GMT -5
CP9 (one piece) are all 500x superhuman, & some of them can change into dangerous animals. In One Piece Power levels: Kim: approx. 12 douriki (.2x stronger than an armed naval guard including her crazy evasivness) Kalifa: 630 douriki Fukurou: 800 douriki Kumadori: 810 douriki Blueno: 820 douriki Jyabura: 2180 douriki (not counting his Wolf abilities) Kaku:2200 douriki (not including Giraffe abilities) Rob Lucci: 4000 douriki (not including Leopard abilities)
all of which use these abilities:
Soru:Allows the user to move at super-human speeds.
Shigan:Allows the user to stab the opponent with their fingers, the resulting wound appears to be caused by a bullet.
Tekkai:Allows the user to harden their muscles to make them as hard as iron, effectively protecting from most attacks.
Kami-e:Allows the user to dodge attacks with ease.
Rankyaku:Allows the user to kick hard enough to send a cutting wave of energy in the direction they kicked.
Geppou:In a manner similar to double jumps in video games allows the user to repeatedly kick off the air.
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Post by Clone Commando on Jan 14, 2008 22:50:11 GMT -5
There Are too many to list...but Ill list a few anyway: (btw all these arnt villans)
Boba Fett (from star wars) A Predator (from AVP) A Space Marine (from War hammer 40k) A Clone Commando (SW) A ARC (SW) A Ork (40k) Darth vader (sw) Darth Sion (sw) A clone trooper (sw) A battle droid (sw) A gungan (sw) A Ewok (sw) Me (with a hand gun)
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Post by Malory Evolent on Jan 15, 2008 15:43:56 GMT -5
Darth Vader Cell T-1000 (Terminator II) A Rabid Wookie! lol
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Post by Luke Danger on Jan 15, 2008 17:49:05 GMT -5
Urai Fenn of the Zann Consortium.
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Post by mrmatt on Jan 15, 2008 19:37:40 GMT -5
Nice to see some 40K references. Gotta disagree on some mentioned characters however, an Ewok and a Gungun? I think not my friend.
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Post by Luke Danger on Jan 16, 2008 19:35:36 GMT -5
Maybe a Droidika, or Destroyer Droid.
Maybe see if Kim could take on a Sith. (Of course we'll give Kim a saber and a bit of training.)
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Post by manofevil on Jan 16, 2008 21:21:07 GMT -5
The Force IS with her.
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Post by Clone Commando on Jan 16, 2008 21:51:20 GMT -5
Maybe a Droidika, or Destroyer Droid. Maybe see if Kim could take on a Sith. (Of course we'll give Kim a saber and a bit of training.) She'll need a quite a lot more that 'a bit' (a LOT more!)
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Post by mrmatt on Jan 16, 2008 22:07:50 GMT -5
I'll give you that.
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