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Post by nabusan on Feb 25, 2007 10:39:39 GMT -5
I know it's not the coolest thing to admit...but I'm done with the K/R fluff. I don't like all the mushiness. I'm just not a mushy person. Warmonga was cool though. I also wish they'd have kept Ron as a loser, instead of upping his status into a football player. I like Ron as a loser ;D Ditto on both points. I love K/R, but not when it's fluffed up. It's like having 'Could it Be' playing whenever there's a shippy moment. Come on! The ship becomes worthless every time you plug it. Absence makes the heart grow fonder! And ditto on the football thing, he's messing up less and less with every episode - and I find that...worrying. It's not the loser I know and love.
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Post by aliciamartin on Feb 25, 2007 10:54:07 GMT -5
any D/S stuff?
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Post by nabusan on Feb 25, 2007 10:55:24 GMT -5
A ton! Shego gets jealous of Warmonga being a better sidekick than her, so she foils Drakken's plan by helping Kim!
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Post by JuPMod on Feb 25, 2007 10:55:42 GMT -5
I'm writing this before I read any of the other posts. I'm in the minority here when it comes to this episode. I thought it was okay but not so great as many here are judging the episode (given what I've seen of the number of votes for #5). This episode is pretty much a transition episode, mainly for Ron. He confirms he has to give up being the mascot (He is definitely now on the football team) and Bonnie gets Jim and Tim to take on the role as the Mad Dog Puppies. He gets jealous that the Possibles Square can do a better job than he, and Jim and Tim, for awhile, gets irritated that Ron keeps bugging them about how to play the mascot. But the Ronman came through at the end knowing that he is now being cheered on instead of being the one doing the cheering on toward others. Yet as much as I understand Ron's jealousy, I think he went a bit overboard there, especially when it comes to Jim and Tim. It's quite understandable why the Tweebs placed him in a containment field given his mood, but least he learned his lesson at the end when he handed Jim and Tim the 'Mad Dog' mouth foam (aka banana cream). The secondary story was interesting as well with Warmonga freeing Drakken, thinking he's The Great Blue as shown in his silly 'Lather, Rinse, Obey' commerical (way back in "Rappin' Drakken"). He gives him all new toys and such, and surely enough, Shego gets her butt kicked by the Amazon alien. With an upgraded battlesuit, Kim takes on Warmonga by herself. Just too bad Drakken was an idiot to provoke Shego, saying Warmonga was better than her. If he didn't provoke her, Warmonga could have won the battle against Kim. Least it's good to know Shego still have her pride that she wants to be the one to defeat Kim, and not some outsider. ;D Yet when it comes down to who won the day, well, in a quisted way, Shego seems to have gone good for a time. She was the one who alerted Wade that Kim was loosing, and thanks to a plan by Ron (I presumed it was him, given Wade spoke to Ron, not Jim and Tim), the Tweebs foiled Drakken by making Warmonga thought she was decieved. (She was decieved, given she was quite misguided by that stupid commerical.) So, for all those who placed bets who would have won against Warmonga in a fight, sorry, kiddies, but Warmonga won hands down against Shego and Kim. She would have gave Kim that finally blow if it weren't for the good timing of Jim (or Tim) appearing on the screen and making Warmonga thought she was decieved by Drakken. As for the K/R moments, this episode was full of them. Kim reassuring Ron that his Mad Dog legacy was going to be okay with Jim and Tim taking over. That almost kiss before Wade interrupted them. The couple sitting side-by-side at Bueno Nacho, instead of across from each other. Of course, let us not forget them holding hands at the end with them walking away with her head on his shoulder. Awwww! Quite sweet. So overall, I give this episode a 4/5. It dragged at times, and despite some humorful moments, the episode wasn't funny and catching to me compare to "Car Alarm" and "Trading Faces". I love the K/R moments as much as any other K/R fan out there, but I do not judge an episode on only the K/R moments (which I have a hunch some fans are solely judging episodes on). Some observations... - It's confirmed that Tara is indeed still in high school and a member of the squad. Just now I wonder if there are 9 girls in the squad. There's a girl with wavy black hair and wearing a blue headband. Just she doesn't look like Marcella. Maybe she is, but also this could confirm there's another member in the squad. - Bonnie was the one who suggested Tim and Jim become the Mad Dog Puppies. Despite what the Possibles Square done to her in "Car Alarm", it seems she has taken a liking to Kim's brothers, following up on "Trading Faces". Like in "Trading Faces", it could be that she likes them just because they provided good ammunition against Kim. Yet again, it maybe possible she really does like them as friends, and for once, Bonnie was right that Jim and Tim do make good mascots. - Wade is coming out of his 'room' more often, thus he is starting to grow up. - Kim's battlesuit is not out of commission. Wade upgraded it with stealth mode (Reminds of the Predators from the Predator movies). Given the sitch, she needed the battlesuit, but as mention many times before in other threads, I think she will stay with her normal mission uniform unless she really does need the battlesuit. - Kim and Ron are coming out quite nicely when it comes to reassuring each other in times of need. Ron was feeling down he has to give up being the mascot, but Kim came through to tell him he has become better and is now the one being cheered on. Quite a touching moment IMO, and far better than all the mushy stuff in "Cupid Effect" (again IMO ). Sometimes the best romantic moments are the heart-warming, character development moments. Okay... I better stop writing. I don't want to go overboard.
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Post by dragoonbigl on Feb 25, 2007 10:57:31 GMT -5
Well i haven't seen it yet, I just missed it last night but from what everyone's saying it sounds like I'll love it. I do want to say to all those with the comments on Ron's movement in the food chain, and the fluffiness.
The fluff, well its a personal preference. I've been perfectly happy with what I've seen so far, (everything available except this episode and I gota I tihnk its been a great balance. Just the other day I was thinking to myself, gee I'd like to see some real convo between Kim and Ron about something other than mission stuff, more about them stuff, sounds like this episode does just that. I'm fine with fluff and I think things have been well balanced so far, hopefully it sticks.
As for Ron's change in status...come on guys, change in status is inevitable. Ron will never be a jock but it is only natural progression for everyone in life. As best stated on Penny Arcadde, we might be geeks in school and are not as popular as the jocks but in the real world quote: "We run sh*t!"
This is the character development that everyone has asked for from Ron and quite frankly i very glad to see it. its part of his growing up and his becoming the best he can be. Ron has never been a "loser" he's only worn the label that his peers had forced on him. I for one am very glad he's chosen to take it off. Once high school is in the past most of the labels we wore fade away anyway. If Ron wouldn't step up now, he'd do it later. Its only inevitable.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 25, 2007 10:58:40 GMT -5
I have to admit when I saw Warmonga kiss Drakken's cheek at one point, I totally was like, "Oh, the Drakken/Shego shippers are gonna be spitting acid! I love it."
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Post by yes4possible on Feb 25, 2007 10:58:48 GMT -5
Well, there was an episode from season 1 of the suite life where Maddie and London get into this wrestling match (fight) on the floor of the Tipton and the twins are like, "this would be much better with pudding." That episode made me a London/Maddie shipper. Another example of this on a Disney Channel show is in the episode of American Dragon: Jake Long "The Academy", though with no mud, the part when two female Huntsclan students were fighting over Spud. Jake said "Shouldn't we be breaking this up." Spud said "Yeah, but when is this ever going to happen to me again. Go ladies fight for the trophy that is me." Later in the episode, the two girls are fighting again, Jake and Spud are suppose to find the Huntsclan computer, but Spud wants to stay and watch the girls fight. "Wait, but the pretty evil girls." as Jake drags him away. I know there was no mud, or mention of mud of pudding, but the fact that Spud was enjoying watching the girl fight, makes up for it.
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Post by aliciamartin on Feb 25, 2007 10:58:58 GMT -5
didn't Shego go back to him? ?
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Post by yes4possible on Feb 25, 2007 11:05:40 GMT -5
didn't Shego go back to him? ? No she didn't, she went back on her vacation. And if you seen "Grandie Size Me", it is clear that Drakken and Shego have gone their seperate ways for now. I think Bonnie's motivation for making Tim and Jim the new mascots are two fold. First of all, to tweg Ron a little bit. And that they are Kim's brothers, if they embarass themselfs, they embarass Kim by association.
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Post by aliciamartin on Feb 25, 2007 11:12:45 GMT -5
i am a little upset with this episode
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Post by JuPMod on Feb 25, 2007 11:13:05 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Motor Ed's air guitar is back!Yeah, just too bad for Lucre that it's *his* turn to get annoyed with a cell-mate who wouldn't shut up. ;D Despite the Disney rule that they can't read fanfic, seeing these S4 episodes are making me think otherwise. Even I written in a fic regarding Ed using that *word* all the time.
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Post by nabusan on Feb 25, 2007 11:18:59 GMT -5
i am a little upset with this episode Dude, don't let shipping effect your enjoyment of an episode
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 25, 2007 11:20:28 GMT -5
i am a little upset with this episode Dude, don't let shipping effect your enjoyment of an episode I agree! I'm a K/R shipper, but I come for the fun that is a KP episode. The K/R moments are an added bonus!
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Post by aliciamartin on Feb 25, 2007 11:20:37 GMT -5
well its just dumb sorry i am just a big D/S fan i don't like Drakken with anyone eles
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Post by nabusan on Feb 25, 2007 11:22:23 GMT -5
*hides Drakken/Warmonga cheek-kiss scene from Alicia* ;D
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Post by aliciamartin on Feb 25, 2007 11:23:54 GMT -5
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Post by eddieursa on Feb 25, 2007 11:27:27 GMT -5
I heard that in this episode there's some kind of scene about Shego declaring something like: "Nobody will destroy Kim Possible... Except me!!!". Can anybody confirm that?. And can you write the dialogue of that scene, please?.
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Post by aliciamartin on Feb 25, 2007 11:27:28 GMT -5
how can there be D/S stuff in it when i saw the pics i didn't see any
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 25, 2007 11:29:21 GMT -5
*hides Drakken/Warmonga cheek-kiss scene from Alicia* ;D I loved that moment. I am so gonna watch that again when I get around for my predictions of Grande Size Me. Yeah, Shego says something she wants to be the only to destroy Kim.
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Post by yes4possible on Feb 25, 2007 11:29:36 GMT -5
I heard that in this episode there's some kind of scene about Shego declaring something like: "Nobody will destroy Kim Possible... Except me!!!". Can anybody confirm that?. And can you write the dialogue of that scene, please?. Yes she did say that. But her exact words at the end were "that is my job."
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