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Post by wallaceb on Apr 17, 2007 19:13:37 GMT -5
This thread was created by request so that there is a POLL to see how people liked the episode. Original discussion thread can be found at Fashion Victim Review (Spoilers)
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Post by nabusan on Apr 17, 2007 19:21:08 GMT -5
4/5Good Points The intro before the opening theme was the BEST intro this season! It was quite spectacular! We got to see that clip from the opening where Kim catches Ron from a helicopter. Yaay! Dementor, as always, has the best scenes! Nano-jetpacks, LOL! I lol'd at Monique's reference to Kim's mission hair. For some reason I had naughty thoughts! I'm glad we finally get to see Kim's boss, though she doesn't seem as psyched for fashion as Monique is. The confidentiality agreement gag amused me, particularly when Wade started talking about it. I <3 seeing Kim and Ron talking on their cellphones during their breaks! Tres cute! We get a further look at Smarty Mart! Lords, they sell Gorilla's and Lemurs?! I love how Ron describes cleaning his bedroom as a 'dark day' that should never be spoken about. Ron is cute as a button in this episode - my fave scenes include Ron running through Smarty Mart on a Lemur trolley. There's also the part where Ron's trapped in a crate and bangs his fists against the walls repeatedly. Further, Ron looks muy sexy in his Smarty Mart uniform! I love that he did up his top button. Great lines this episode, humor's top-notch. All the best lines courtesy of Barkin and Ron. Their interaction in the store and crate was awesome. I loved seeing Barkin grow facial hair [that guy is all man!], dress up like a woman and freak out with a rubber chicken. And lol, that poor cow. I cried from laughter when Ron went 'Moo?!' Gawd, I've said this a million times - but he was so cute! Loved seeing Wade play with action figures! One of them's called Doctor Fusion, lol! And Wade has the cutest purple-pig jammies! I was also impressed at how fast he was able to get Monique a ride. With regard to the Fashionista's, I just noticed that one of them, Espadrille, is drawn in Stephen Silver's Season 4 sketches! Hoodie's voice seemed kinda better in this episode than it did in 'Clothes Minded'. Her 'Clothes Minded' voice sounded a bit like a constipated Californian; you'll have to look at the blurb for that episode to see what I mean. Anywho, I love Hoodie's reference to Clothes Minded when she says: "Nice moves, Possible. I may design a tracksuit after you." Monique really came out of her shell when she fought the Fashionista's! Oooh, there were minor Kim/Monique shippiness in the episode! They hugged and forgave eachother! There was some Barkin/Ron shippy lookin' moments, too! Barkin seemed to grab Ron, alot ^^ And wow, Ron and Barkin's crate went to Milan! What are the chances?!? Makes me wonder if the Fashionista's sell their knock-offs to Smarty Mart?! Bad Points: I found the Dementor/Kim scenes more interesting than the Camille/Kim scenes. Ashley Tisdale was charming as Camille, as always ;D But she wasn't as good as she was in 'Trading Faces.' Not so impressed by Coco-Banana - I think it's the accent, or maybe the look of the character. Kinda disappointed in Monique for suspecting Kim of stealing the designs, some friend(!) I disliked the Kim/Monique friction as a whole, like when Kim ditched Monique to go to Milan. The Fashion Police were so corny. I think the episode would have been better without them. Okay, dunno if anyone noticed but...there's some HORRIBLE background music 13 minutes and 28 seconds into the episode, during the scene where Kim first lays eyes on the Fashionista's lair. I was annoyed at Kim for picking out women in Milan who didn't dress well. I know it was a ruse to get the Fashion Police off her back, but I was still disappointed in her. It was quite a shallow moment. Kim was totally off her game! She fell from a building and nearly died, then trips an alarm in the sewer! You'd expect KP to be experienced enough to deal with these sitches. Most of the 'witty banter' between KP/Monique and the Fashionista's, whilst fighting, wasn't that witty. The blurb at the end, during the credits, wasn't that funny. Comments:Wow, another classic KP ep! I'm loving these! The humor was good, the locations fabulous, the situations awesome and the characters brilliant! Well-rounded episode, but not 5/5-worthy. That rating is reserved for episodes that are consistantly awesome throughout the whole episode - which this was not.
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Post by Baroque on Apr 17, 2007 19:42:12 GMT -5
Nabu did it so it can't be bad! I will follow his lead and copy my text... Ok, this episode was hilarious! I mean....Mr. Barkin like this was just awesome! I mean, seriously...first with stubbles (and his great statement "15 times a day")...nice. But then dressed up as a woman, pure hilarity. And yes, because this board corrupts innocent minds, the first thing I thought of, when Mr. Barkin and Ron were in a dark crate was the "shippiness". Especially when Mr. Barkin says something like "We're all alone and no one can here you"...while holding Ron's mouth shut. Oh and for sure the Kim and Monique "shippiness", really nice. But I had the feeling, that something was missing. The villains weren't really...there. I think this episode is more focused on making the viewer laugh than serious world saving and fighting. A really humorous episode with plenty of "shippy" moments, plus...Hulk Hogan! By the way, the whole time, seeing Mr. Barkin dressed like this I thought "You know this from somewhere..." and I did. Mr. Barkin Dr. Hobo! This bugged me the whole time until the end of the episode when the name finally came to my mind. I think 4.5/5
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Apr 17, 2007 19:57:45 GMT -5
(Recopied from the original thread)
5/5 25 predictions correct
I’ve wanted to see this episode ever since I first heard the premise and that it was on Disney Channel On Demand. At least two months. I had tons of fun watching this episode. I yelled, I screamed, and had tons of fun while fearing and being randomly worried for Kim. I wanted some more drama, like Kim actually getting arrested but, overall, a great episode.
So, Coco Banana goes to the Middleton Club Banana and Monique and the actually manager get to see the fall designs of the company. Kim is jealous a bit. And, Camille upset that she got put into jail by Kim exacts her revenge on her by framing her for stealing the aforementioned designs. Le shock! Kim goes to Milan, Italy to the Fashion Underground to go clear her name, whilst Ron goes to Smarty Mart to put up with Barkin working there. Barkin works there for the benefits and Smarty Mart is like his true love. How weird. So, Monique takes it on herself to go after Kim and help her. She took the whole Camille-stealing-the-designs-and-framing-Kim sitch personally. I love that. It was great. So, M and Kim go on into the Fashion Underground to save the designs, while Ron and Barkin lose their sanity. Not your basic average Kim Possible episode and she didn’t save the world, but still, a good episode. And, it did improve my mood.
Yay, it is time for the highlights and funness part of my review! Here they are:
*The beginning sequence with the ATV and the helicopter. That kind of stuff was the stuff that seduced me into the show and made me fall passionately with the show. *Dementor’s random short cameo! *Monique and Kim talking about Kim’s mission hair. Love it. *Monique’s assistant manager promotion. *Coco Banana. Typical male designer with a hint of gayness. *Kim being jealling and on a cell phone. Why does she have a cell phone when her K’Cator kind of, I don’t know, NEGATES A CELL PHONE! *Barkin’s unveiling as working at Smarty Mart! *Barkin’s true passion! *Ron locking horns with Barkin. I love it. *Kim’s contract? *Ron -ing a Gorilla off. He okay with monkeys now? *Kim being randomly jealous. *Camille’s framage of Kim! *Kim: “So, you sort, you pile, you trash. Like when you cleaned your room?” Ron: “We promised never to speak of that dark day!” *Kim and Monique’s mini fight in relation to the designs. *The Fashion Police! I LOVED THEM! *Kim going alone on a mission (that’s like the what, third time this season, STOP THAT, WOMAN!) and Monique REALLY wanting to go. *Barkin and Ron getting stuck in a crate. *Monique getting into Kim’s locker and talking to Wade. GREAT SCENE! *Barkin shaving 15 times a day. So random! *That cow! I loved that cow! *Monique saving Kim! *The Fashionistas! *Kim dressing like Camille. Not sure how to react or how to handle that. It’s like JK Rowling dressing like Paris Hilton. It’s not like that, IT IS THAT! *Barkin slowly losing his mind! *Kim and Monique fighting the Fashionistas and Camille. Yay! *I like Hoodie of Fashionistas. *The fight music in that scene. Straight from the second Shego fight of S T D! *How I knew working with Monique would be problematic for Kim at least once! I mean, look at the first episode of the show! *Barkin getting in trouble with the Fashion Police! *Ron not knowing which is Kim. WHAT THE HELL, RON?! YOU’RE AN IDIOT SOMETIMES!! I’M GONNA BEAT YOU UP, BOY!
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Apr 17, 2007 21:38:14 GMT -5
Let me just say its not one of my favorites. The Ron/Barkin subplot is a plus for the episode though.
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Post by Rognik on Apr 17, 2007 22:15:24 GMT -5
the first thing I thought of, when Mr. Barkin and Ron were in a dark crate was the "shippiness". Perhaps you should've focused on the "shipping-ness" of Ron and Barkin. Cue the rimshot!But I had the feeling, that something was missing. The villains weren't really...there. I think this episode is more focused on making the viewer laugh than serious world saving and fighting. I think you make a good point here. Even the villains' punny names were a bit vague. Hoodie was blatant, and Chino can be easily deduced, but I had to wikipedia Espadilla (it's a kind of slipper). And they were pretty weak. Even Camille was kinda weak in her brief screen time. I'm sure there were funny parts, but whatever they were, I missed them. It could be that I read the spoilers before seeing the episode, but I don't think so. All the other episodes this season, I've wanted to watch them again and again. This one felt more like a forced obligation to see it through. 2/5 from me.
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Post by Comrade_Chin on Apr 18, 2007 0:44:23 GMT -5
This was quite a funny and nice episode but uh i have few complaints about it.At 17 min 59 sec when Monique is holding the mannequin to defend herself and Kim appears her skin colour is different and than few seconds later her skin colour went back to normal.This also happens to Camille at 21 min when Camille disguised as Kim talks to Monique,Camille is fair but after few seconds later she had tan colour skin.Another thing was that Kim looks a bit weird especially her eyes in some scenes.But all in all it was quite a funny and nice episode.
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Post by Darth_Comrade on Apr 18, 2007 2:53:21 GMT -5
^^ that doesn't really affect my viewing...I didn't really notice anything and I wtched it three times in a row! (I usually do that with the new episodes!) IMO this is the best episode of the season yet!!!
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Post by Loser7 on Apr 18, 2007 4:20:19 GMT -5
For me this episode would have been better if Kim's part wasn't on the wrong side for S0 L0NG! It bothered me, and I could tell if it was just flipped around- I'd have totally dug the animation. O poo. That killed the episode visually.
A good thing about this season is I like alot of the backgrounds, alot! I love hoodie too, she was a great villain- I don't really care about the other two fashionistas.
There've been better episodes, but there've been worse- so I'm just sort of in the middle with this episode. The humor was good for the most part, and that's always important- so props on that.
I guess this episode gets a 2.5/5
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Post by Commander Argus on Apr 18, 2007 4:25:44 GMT -5
My guess is they thought her hair had to be parted that way under the wig, but it was very distracting. Then again, maybe the animators weren't clear on when she would be wearing the wig and when she wasn't, so they just put on the proper colors and left it that way.
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Post by Comrade_Chin on Apr 18, 2007 8:29:05 GMT -5
Man The Fashionitas cant fight except for Hoodie.Chino was very weak.....................Camille is pretty useless in combat or anythign else in that matter.Shes just so dumb and spoiled all she does is whines most of the time.
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Post by nabusan on Apr 18, 2007 8:36:09 GMT -5
Espadrille used her frickin' handbag!
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Post by Comrade_Chin on Apr 18, 2007 8:38:41 GMT -5
Come on man,anyone can just use their briefcase and handbag and swing it crazily to attack anyone.All women does that when they are being attack.
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Post by nabusan on Apr 18, 2007 9:04:55 GMT -5
I've always wanted to have a handbag fight.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Apr 18, 2007 9:21:34 GMT -5
Me too!
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Post by Comrade_Chin on Apr 18, 2007 9:25:47 GMT -5
LOL!!!!
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Post by Yamal on Apr 18, 2007 12:10:55 GMT -5
I would not want to have a handbag fight at all... If a woman took part in that kind of fight!! Only God knows what women can fit in those little handbags of them. It sometimes freaks me out! ^__^
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Post by tlionheart78 on Apr 18, 2007 22:10:31 GMT -5
Well so far the RS.net overall score of Fashion Victim is 4. I feel that my review score has dropped it though. I've seen the episode, but my review is in the workds. My review score was a 3/5. I'll have my thoughts on here soon. A HUGE thanks to yes4possible for starting out the comments and reviews on Fashion Victim, and to wallaceb for providing my poll for us to give Fashion Victim a rating. I needed the break from opening the review threads. But I got dibs for Odds Man In, K? ;D
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Post by Netherwood on Apr 18, 2007 23:53:48 GMT -5
The Fashionistas aren't really supervillains. They're regular black market kingpins, albeit specializing in a field that gives them a sort of "whacked supervillain" feel. Hoodie might be able to pull off a few impressive things, as she apparently has some decent martial arts training, but that's about it on the supervillain action front. It was interesting to see Kim deal with a more "mundane" criminal element. I didn't like how Barkin and Ron were interacting while still on duty at Smarty Mart. Barkin was acting, well, petty. He's been hideously strict in the past, even shown a tendency to single out Ron for his attentions, but it always seemed he'd be pleased to see Ron shaping up to make something of himself (especially if that something resembled Barkin's mold). Here, though, he seemed more like he was acting on jealous instinct. That's about the only thing about that really bugged me. I did really like watching Kim and Monique deal with their differences... the maturity with which they resolved their conflict provided a nice foil to Ron and Barkin. Overall, I give it 4/5... well done and interesting, but not one I'll still be geeking out over in a few months.
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Post by yes4possible on Apr 19, 2007 22:34:28 GMT -5
I loved this episode. Ron and Barkin stole the show, but the other stuff were funny as well. For a funny episode it was a great. Not that much great fight action, but this episode was more about the funny than action. Any episode without Shego to be Kim's perfect fight partner is going to take the quality of the action down a notch.
The Fashionistas could be good second teer villains. I liked that came from the fashion world, since Kim is into fashion. They remind me of the Bebe's when they had Bonnie's thoughts programed into their heads.
4 / 5
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