Nightspade's Rant #19. (PG-13 for being abrupt)

[Nightspade]

Alright guys, not a lot of time to write this one, so it's gonna have to be short.

I've decided to take these in a new direction. For now, at least. Rather then just making one long winded post, I'm going to state my opinion on the subject (Global Warming) and then let everyone have at it. Plus, since my own argument here is admitably weak, I'd like a chance to see those faults pointed out.

Also, since I've been gone for about... a week or so, I'm not certain if this is the right area to post this. Me being so used to the old way of things and all...

Nightspade's Rant #19: Now it's Real?

Global Warming has recently been 'proven' by a world conference. Or at least proven to be 'likely to be caused by humanity'. Now, I have not read the report (...I believe in honesty before credibility) but I do know this. Experts from many countries around the Globe were involved in this study, including the US.

The Bush administration's stance on Global Warming is now a mystery. And I now have to say that Global warming might be real, instead of my usual 'there's no proof'.

Oh, I'm sorry. I meant to say 'Global Climate Change'. Or GCC, for short.

(Can anyone fill me [and others] in on the evidence supporting that human involvement is to blame? Until then, my argument will go as follows.)

The world's climate has been changing for millions of years. Heck, even our atmosphere has undergone drastic changes. during the middle ages, the temperature raised 3 degrees. Then, for a period after, we had a little ice age.

People who believe we're to blame (not all mind you) will point out the radical weather we've been having as of late.

And to them I say, it's the weather. It's never the same every year.

GCC has just as much of a chance of being humanity's fault as the Earth's position to the sun is Xenu's. Yeah, I said it. Come and get me, Scientologists.

This doesn't mean we don't need to be concerned about the environment. Reckless abuse of resources and the land can be costly. But we shouldn't live in fear of something that we may have absolutely no control over.

[Whisper from the Shadows]

Wow, as usual, nice rant (though smaller, still good).

Okay, I'm of the school that Global Warming, or GCC to be Politically Correct, is bad science. We know from fossil records (assuming all science is fairly accurate) that Earth goes through cyles like this. According to most fossil records, the earth was a tropical paradise during the ages of the Dinosaurs (therefore: warm, lots of moisture in the atmosphere, small polar ice caps, higher ocean levels, etc...), and since then there has been at least one "Ice Age" (cold, next to no moisture in the air, LARGE polar ice caps, glaciers, slightly lower ocean levels, etc...).

The thing is, the last "Ice Age" was relatively not that long ago. By technical definition we are still warming back up from that one, of course there is a temperature increase. Are we as humans helping that along? It's possible, but it would happen whether we did anything or not.

Give it a few thousand more years and everywhere will be a tropical paradise.

Should we be concerned about the environment? You better believe it, but this is kinda supposed to happen.
Can we change things? Nope.
What is my biggest fear? Air Conditioning might not be able to keep up with the temperature increase.

[cloudmonet]

Don't buy any houses or land less than 200 feet above sea level. Either you or your children will be glad you didn't when Antarctica melts.

[Felix]

Yes, last few years have been extremely warm (at least it has been here in the UK) compared to the previous records. Now I don't know who or what is to blame, whether it be all these greenhouse gases or just the Earth going through a warm cycle. But it's clear that something has been different in recent years, and how long it will last and how big of an impact it will have is still anyone's guess.

[greensquid]

I was under the impression that they knew what the environment, atmosphere, and weather were like from samples of ice in the arctic and what not (apparently, the heating and cooling of the earth created these like... visible lines and they can sample chemicles from that ice). And that even though there had been periods of warming and cooling, this most recent warming was unlike anything seen before.

Granted, that's from that Al Gore movie, and I don't know how much of it is BS, but I haven't found anything to disprove it... yet.

[Imperial General Someguy]

Coming from Al Gore? The guy who claimes he invented the internet? Yeah, BS.

Anyways, well said as always, Spade, and we actually see your rarely shown (I think?) conservative side here. Or at least, it seems like your conservative side.

[greensquid]

someguy21 said:

Coming from Al Gore? The guy who claimes he invented the internet? Yeah, BS.

Anyways, well said as always, Spade, and we actually see your rarely shown (I think?) conservative side here. Or at least, it seems like your conservative side.

ROFL. You know, it's funny, I see that "Al Gore thinks he invinted the internet" thing all the time. One day I was like "Ok, that does it, I want to find out if he actually said it." I found out that in truth, he was refering to legislation, and his role as a senator in passing a bill.

In that quote he says something to the effect of "I moved forward with the initiative of creating the internet, as well as many other initiatives that have proven beneficial to our country" (In truth I don't remember the exact quote) . However, that whole "Al Gore claims to have invented the internet" was what reporters and other magazines construed from that comment. And since most people are too stupid to actually read what a person says and tend to only pay attention to headlines and sound bites, that's what most people believe he said.

He actually was talking about writing up the legislation (which is sometimes referred to as an "initiative" ) which allowed the internet to move forward in the early 90s. (specifically as the "High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991")

He's never actually genuinely claimed to have invented the internet.

So, yea, know what you're talking about before you call BS.