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Post by Rognik on May 18, 2007 7:42:57 GMT -5
But I think her reluctance to be the Queen Bebe in the episode of the same name has some evidence that she's not evil. The only place where she's been depicted with any evilness (aside from a snarky attitude) is in A Sitch in Time, where she's working for Shego. I don't think that should really count, either, as choosing to go against The Supreme One was not a pleasant choice.
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Post by maetch on May 18, 2007 13:18:55 GMT -5
Here's what I think:
A villain (not the usual ones, but an all-new one) is willing to give Bonnie everything she wants in exchange for everything she knows about Kim. Her life, her schedule, her hobbies, everything. The info would be used by the villain to remove/kill Kim once and for all. Bonnie would gladly jump at the attempt to finally have Kim out of her life, and get reimbursed for it as well. Knowing that Kim's gonna die means nothing to her, so long as she wins in the end.
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on May 18, 2007 14:25:24 GMT -5
Here's what I think: A villain (not the usual ones, but an all-new one) is willing to give Bonnie everything she wants in exchange for everything she knows about Kim. Her life, her schedule, her hobbies, everything. The info would be used by the villain to remove/kill Kim once and for all. Bonnie would gladly jump at the attempt to finally have Kim out of her life, and get reimbursed for it as well. Knowing that Kim's gonna die means nothing to her, so long as she wins in the end. Yep. That's Bon-bon, all right. She'd be indifferent about Kim's death. I can just see the cheer squad at Kim's funeral, and Bon-bon being the only one not crying.
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Post by KPforever on May 18, 2007 15:37:35 GMT -5
If Bonnie were to team up with any existing villain it would be Camille Leon because there so alike. Or it would be Junior because she would find him attractive and he has lots of money.
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Post by Luke Danger on May 18, 2007 17:13:17 GMT -5
Here's what I think: A villain (not the usual ones, but an all-new one) is willing to give Bonnie everything she wants in exchange for everything she knows about Kim. Her life, her schedule, her hobbies, everything. The info would be used by the villain to remove/kill Kim once and for all. Bonnie would gladly jump at the attempt to finally have Kim out of her life, and get reimbursed for it as well. Knowing that Kim's gonna die means nothing to her, so long as she wins in the end. God Da-m it you got it right on! Then Kim learns it was Bonnie, and Kim gets a excuse to kick Bon-Bon's big ugly arse!
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Post by Rognik on May 18, 2007 19:02:59 GMT -5
Thing is that Bonnie wouldn't want Kim dead, even if she got everything she wanted. Yes, she hates Kim, but it's not the kind of hatred that Kim and Shego share. They both want to be the alpha (mad)dog, and bark loudly at each other, but neither will actually bite or tear at the other.
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Post by Luke Danger on May 18, 2007 19:59:18 GMT -5
Well in my first fic, she has reasons, but I can't say to much or it will spoil it. but part of it IS she hates Kim, even though it takes place a few months after gradutation.
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Post by VRWC on May 20, 2007 16:04:15 GMT -5
I am once again overwhelmed with the need to leap to the defense of everyones favorite brunette cheerleader. I for one would raise the question of if Bonnie COULD work with a villain, in one sense I do mean personality wise, but I mean might her reputation precede her and she ends up being viewed by the villains as nearly as bad as Kim. For pointers let's look at her track record, there is the obvious Bonding but there are also several other instances. I'll refer you to Return to Camp Wannaweep where Bonnie very much helps Kim and Ron capture Gill. And then she's an unwitting/unwilling Queen Bebe which would further degrade her villain rep. Not to mention that in Kimitation Nation she's somewhat responsible for Drakken's clone plan going south, along with many others to be fair, but that's just another nail in the coffin. My point here is, say what you will about Bonnie's personality but Bonnie as a person seems to be one of the good guys when it comes to hero vs. villain time. Therefore I pose to you the question of Could Bonnie work with a villain? Ever hear of "will to survive"? Because that's where most of the Bonnie being any definition of good is. I mean, in Bonding, she had to help because she was stuck to Kim, and thus if Kim got in a trap like they did, Bonnie would most likely die too. IIRC, Camp Wanaweep can be attributed to the same thing. And also, Drakken's incompetence for accidentally getting Bonnie's hair first doesn't count as Bonnie being good. I see no logic there. Okay, looking back I can see it's my fault for not laying out my thought process as clearly as I might have. The point I'm driving at, and we can now include Cap'n Drakken in this line of reasoning, is that Bonnie's reputation would likely preceed her. Whatever her motivations, lack thereof, needs, etc... Bonnie has been seen by Kim's villain gallery on several occasions to be aiding our redheaded hero. My conclusion is that therefore no villain would want or accept Bonnie's help, as to whether she'd be willing to offer said help is another matter entirely and we all know my opinion on that matter.
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Post by yes4possible on May 27, 2007 23:38:24 GMT -5
Thing is that Bonnie wouldn't want Kim dead, even if she got everything she wanted. Yes, she hates Kim, but it's not the kind of hatred that Kim and Shego share. They both want to be the alpha (mad)dog, and bark loudly at each other, but neither will actually bite or tear at the other. The thing is, she wouldn't have to know the villains intention. A converation between Bonnie and a villian could go like this: Villain: With my help, you can finally beat Kim Possible. Bonnie: How? Villain: Just leave that to me. Bonnie: You are not going to hurt her are you? I just want to be better than Kim, I don't want her to get injuried or dead. Villain: Of course not, I won't hurt her. Don't worry you will get what you want.
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Post by dvdice on May 28, 2007 9:31:31 GMT -5
I don't think that Bonnie wil do that.... I think that she looks better working with the tweebs
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Post by clayton on Jun 5, 2007 16:01:05 GMT -5
Scenes froma fic I wrote...
Kim had been home a week and it was almost as if she hadn’t left. For the first few days Kim and her mother had just enjoyed each other’s company and then they started asking questions. “So, you ever told me, how’s work?” Kim asked. Mrs. Possible shrugged. “You know how it is. Up to my wrists in gray matter. One man had a hunk of rebar through his skull and survived. Unfortunately he worked at a scrap yard and got too close to the electromagnet.” Kim winced. “Nasty. And not too bright.” “Kim, rebar through his brain.” “Oh, right. My bad.” “So what have you been up to?” Kim bit her lip. “Um, pretty much what I used to do here but now I’m under a government gag order not to talk about it. And even though I am technically on leave, they did reserve the right to call me incase of world danger. Oh and I’m working as a cheerleader for the Dallas Cowboys. They hired me after I stopped DN Amy from turning them into cow-boys.” “Honestly, can’t they just execute these people?” Mrs. Possible asked. “As a doctor I am against unnecessary death and suffering but for crying out loud!” “Mom, it’s not that easy. Most of the supervillains I fight haven’t actually killed anyone because I keep stopping them. On top of that the justice system has a hard time defining appropriate punishment for moving continents and controlling the weather. Plus they get HenchCo lawyers to back them and some government agencies that want to use their technology for their own purposes. The only villain I’ve ever killed was Duff and that’s because I accidentally hit one of his exploding golf balls with my laser lipstick.” “Well, at least Drakken is out of the picture,” Mrs. Possible said. “You’d think so, but it turns out he cloned himself. The clone is roughly one-eighth his size. And that’s not all. After Drakken died Shego claimed that Drakken had been controlling her the whole time. I got called into court and had to admit under oath that Drakken had come into contact with mind controlling technology which he even used on me a few times. I even had to admit that I had no proof she wasn’t under mind control because apparently most of the money she got paid by Drakken had been converted into gold and buried around the world and she was acquitted before Wade could find out where. She had the whole ex-superhero credit an everyone knows they get brainwashed all the time.” “So she went back to crime?” “Worse. She produced a television show about all our fights and sent me a royalty check along with an autographed copy of her new book ‘Yes I did it and this is how it happened’.” Mrs. Possible decided not to mention that she watched the show and vowed just to set the Tivo to record until Kim left. Oh, and to hide the book. “That’s awful sweetheart. Um, have you seen any of your other friends? What happened to that Bonnie girl and the cheer squad?” “I was never friends with Bonnie mom. Besides, she’s a major supervillain now. Half the squad joined up with her and the other half…” Kim shuddered. “It was horrible what she did to them.” “What? What did she do?” “She organized a bake sale. The girls all helped out. Then Bonnie took her groupies and they locked them in the gym with the snacks for the entire summer.” Kim looked away. “When they were let out they’d put on a hundred pounds each… and three of the girls were missing.” “But you said they were all trapped… oh.” “Good thing there was a water fountain and a bathroom, but that was the only saving grace. Now they’re working at Midas’s spa as masseuses. Since then Bonnie’s Bitches have upgraded themselves with cybernetic enhancements and taken over half the fashion industry with strong-arm tactics, brainwashing, blackmail, and cyber-models. If GJ wasn’t helping Monique at Club banana they would have a complete monopoly.” “I know Bonnie was rich but how can she possibly afford…” “She married Senior Senior Senior.” “You mean Junior?” “No. Everyone just thinks she married Junior because she stole some of DN Amy’s stuff and made him young again… then, once he was a teenager again, took advantage of his new sex drive to turn him into her slave. She also made her sisters and mother into her first robots. If it weren’t for me she might even own the whole world.” Mrs. Possible whistled. “She sounds competent. I’m surprised Shego isn’t working for her.” “She tried, but Bonnie felt twenty one was over the hill. After that things got messy…”
Shego was just about to ring the bell when Kim ran out and past her. “Sorry, have to miss our lunch. Important call.” Without missing a step Shego ran behind her. “What call?” “Bonnie just hijacked a huge laser drill from Dr. Dementor’s private stash of phallic doomsday weapons and now she’s trying to use it to change the faces on Mount Rushmore to look like hers.” “Oh, this I have to see. You got a spare seat?” Kim stopped and stared at her. “What, seriously?” “Sure. I haven’t got anything else planned today. Besides you promised me a talk and it’ll take a while before we get there.” “Half hour with the tweebs’ adjustments. You won’t try taking the weapon?” “Lasers?” She held up a glowing hand. “I don’t need any stinking lasers.” “Fine, I don’t have time to argue. The local authorities are holding her off but she’ll be in position to start in less than forty minutes.” They got in and Kim started the engine. Seconds later the car had transformed and they were flying through the air at mach 3. Shego whistled. “Not bad. While we’re at it we’re not going to have to travel back to the old west to meet our ancestors are we?” “No, we don’t let the tweebs time travel anymore since they went back and clued that Thomas Edison guy into all of Leo Frankfurt’s best inventions.” “Leo who?” “Exactly.” Shego looked at her and saw Kim grinning. “That wasn’t funny.” “Yes it was.” They arrived at Mount Rushmore and down below they saw several dozen police officers handcuffed to their vehicles and being watched over by very shiny supermodels. Even from where they flew they could hear the whine of the huge laser as it charged up and the hydraulics aimed it at the mountain. “I so hate her,” Shego said. “You know she told me I was too old to work with her?” “Please. You’re only two years older than her. She was just jealous,” Kim said. “Just be glad you didn’t have to share the cheerleading squad with her.” “Uh oh,” Shego said. “They’re pointing up here.” “So? They can’t fly…” Suddenly jetpacks emerged from four of the cyborgs’ backs. “Until now. Hang on.” Jerking the controls suddenly she swerved just in time to avoid three of them as they flew into the spot she had been in a second before. The fourth managed to hit the wing and sent them into a dive. Kim hit the eject button. Parachute packs wrapped around Kim and Shego’s shoulders and then the top popped open and they were flung into the air along with two sky boards. Kim grabbed her board and swung just in time to clip Tara across the face and send her tumbling down to the ground where she made a crater. Meanwhile Shego took down two of the others with blasts into their packs. Kim was impressed, but suddenly the fourth got a grip on her from behind. “Hey Kim, long time no see.” “Ashley,” Kim choked out. “Finally learned your moves I see.” Things started to go black around the edges. “A few illegal modifications do wonders for a girl. You should have tried it.” “Didn’t need them.” Twisting she slipped one foot around bringing the board around and jamming it into the jet intake on Ashley’s pack. The cyborg released her grip automatically just before it exploded and sent her hurtling into the distance. Kim pulled her ripcord and jerked up as her chute caught. “Obviously you did.” Next to her Shego whistled. “Not bad princess.” “No big,” Kim said. Looking down they saw a dozen more of them waiting on the ground. “That however, could be a problem. Bonnie merged her people with Drakken’s Beebees. They’re a huge pain in the ass. Think you can take them?” “Try and keep up girly.” Shego was as good as her work. In sync the two of them pulled the release on their packs and dropped the remaining ten feet to the ground into perfect rolls, each coming up and kicking a cyber-model in the face and knocking them for a loop. Together they waded into battle that would break several movie copyright laws to describe. Eventually back-to-back and surrounded on all sides by twitching sparking cyborgs they took a deep breath of relief. “Whew, not bad,” Shego said. “Uh, where’s Bonnie?” “Over here,” Bonnie called out. They both turned and saw that the laser was now aimed directly at them and fully charged. “Say cheese! Because you’re about to melt like it!” She hit the firing button. Kim’s heart was in her throat when the huge ruby light was blocked by an emerald one. Shego looked over her shoulder and said, “What are you waiting for Kimmie? I can’t hold this thing forever.” “Oh, right,” said Kim. She ran forward to the weapon’s platform that Bonnie occupied. Bonnie cursed and balled her hands into fists. “You are such a pain in the ass.” “No, I just make you feel inferior. Largely because you are.” “I’m going to enjoy this,” Bonnie said. She bent down and ripped a piece of sheet metal from the floor she stood on and folded it into a knife. “Let’s see if you’d still make prom queen after I cut off your face and mount it on my wall.” She lunged forward and Kim barely managed to dodge it. “You never could get a decent routine,” Kim said. Grabbing Bonnie’s arm she swung on it like a gymnast and landed on Bonnie’s shoulders. “Look, you’re on the bottom of the pyramid again.” Kim barely managed to jump before Bonnie’s weapon came up. When she landed again her left leg collapsed under her and she saw a line of blood dripping down her own leg. “You know, arterial red is just your color,” Bonnie said. “In fact, I think we’ll try spreading it out a bit.” She raised her weapon again. “Hey Bonnie, you have a crows foot,” a voice said behind her. “What? Where?” Kim briefly forgotten Bonnie turned and looked at her reflection in one of the laser’s consoles. “I don’t see… wait a minute. I can’t get wrinkles any more.” Shego grabbed Bonnie by the back of her head. “Next time, invest in a new brain moron.” She slammed Bonnie’s head through the console repeatedly. “Over the hill my naco.” “Warning, self destruct in thirty seconds,” a voice said from the laser. Dropping Bonnie Shego walked over to Kim. “Nobody kills you but me. And speaking of which…” She grinned broadly. Kim looked up at Shego. “Oh no.”
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Post by ViridianSin on Jun 5, 2007 23:05:03 GMT -5
I'd like to think Bonnie's not evil enough to be... Evil. She's just got the teenage arrogance complex. Sometimes she almost seems on the verge of being nice.
Now, if she thought it was a plot to embarrass Kim, I can see her signing on. Kill her, on the other hand, no, not intentionally.
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Jun 9, 2007 20:53:08 GMT -5
I've said this elsewhere, but I think it's relevant here. If you compare Bonnie to other characters, I found a good approximation for her personality. Take 2 parts Kuzco, and 2 parts Gaston, and you practically have Bonnie right there! She's the arrogant, stubborn, "perfect" person Gaston was, and the self-centered whiny incompetent /not able to think things through person Kuzco was. Now supposing this is a formula for her personality, she has the capacity to be the kind of cold-blooded villain Gaston became when pushed over the edge, or the kind of warm-hearted nice guy Kuzco became. I'm hoping for, but doubting the likelihood of, the cold-blooded villain. Just a semi-relevant realization.
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Post by Luke Danger on Jun 23, 2007 17:55:14 GMT -5
I've said this elsewhere, but I think it's relevant here. If you compare Bonnie to other characters, I found a good approximation for her personality. Take 2 parts Kuzco, and 2 parts Gaston, and you practically have Bonnie right there! She's the arrogant, stubborn, "perfect" person Gaston was, and the self-centered whiny incompetent /not able to think things through person Kuzco was. Now supposing this is a formula for her personality, she has the capacity to be the kind of cold-blooded villain Gaston became when pushed over the edge, or the kind of warm-hearted nice guy Kuzco became. I'm hoping for, but doubting the likelihood of, the cold-blooded villain. Just a semi-relevant realization. I'm hoping for the Gaston part too, cause if they kill Shego off, Bonnie can take her place
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 4, 2007 13:32:11 GMT -5
Bonnie is a Villian. When you try to hurt Kim emotionally it's just as bad as physically. That's what she tried to do in Homecoming Upset.
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Post by vanessaandreia17 on Jul 4, 2007 13:47:15 GMT -5
Hum.... Maybe Shego and Bonnie. Bonnie hates KP like Shego.
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Post by Firelady Nemo on Jul 13, 2007 11:10:39 GMT -5
honestly, i find bonnie more evil than any of the villains, because those mind games that preppy girls play with you can leave emotional scars that last for a lifetime & even cause some girls to commit suicide, while villains that only cause (or try to) physical pain aren't as bad in the long run! thats why i almost consider bonnie a form of villain!!! the evilest kind(the kind that is so evil they can trick you in to thinking they are normal)! thats just my odd opinion, but if she were to work w/ a villain, i would say camile leon or sr.sr.jr......
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Post by dez23 on Jul 13, 2007 15:00:27 GMT -5
I think bonnie on her own is evil enougth!
But working with someone like Shego would be Evil overload!
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Post by ninjanaco on Jul 13, 2007 15:56:00 GMT -5
She's obviously a very intelligent young woman, VERY competitive (especially where Kim is involved), a not-so-perfect home life, and she has inferiority issues (at least that's my guess for the "bad attitude")... some of the perfect blends for a villain. Agreed. And that's why I think, if "seduced" in the right way, Bonnie could become a formidable villain, perhaps even the worst enemy Kim'd ever had to face. And I can see Shego tutoring Bonnie in the ways of villainy. I can see the green one spotting the evil potential of young Rockwaller. For one thing, they both share a distate for the more inefficient traditions of villainy...
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Post by Luke Danger on Jul 13, 2007 19:23:32 GMT -5
Heh, *tosses bonnie into a teleporter and sends her to a New Sith Order Acadamy on Korriban* Hey! I'm just seeing if she will take the power, if she accepts and survives training, I'll bring her back and let loss the Kitties of War on her to see what she learned
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