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Post by DP on May 22, 2007 14:24:07 GMT -5
I've seen that eppy! Though if Bonnie turned good, Kim wouldn't have a high-school enemy, and that would make the show a bit dry to me. Kim has enemies that are hard-core evil. She's gonna need a high-school evil, don't you think? And ur right, it would be like that eppy of TsR!8:-) Yay! Good to see another TsR fan on here! But yeah, if Bonnie turned good it would be only temporary, like for one episode Kim could 'knock the bad out of her' like Raven. I can't see Bonnie being good forever. I can see her being nice on and off. |
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Post by yes4possible on May 23, 2007 15:53:28 GMT -5
Bonnie is pushed to be the best, to be perfect. The reason why she is the person that she is, the same reason Azula of Avatar is the way she is, driven to be pefect by family. In Bonnie's case, her sisters, in Azula's her father.
But that is when it ends, all Bonnie has ever done is said some snibe remarks about Kim and Ron, and made life a little more difficult for Kim, nothing like Azula. But I am sure there are days Bonnie has shown frustration like Azula on that ship when her hair out of place.
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Post by Rognik on May 23, 2007 20:07:32 GMT -5
Bonnie is always put out whenever Kim outdoes her. And in Number One, she really CAN outdo Kim if she wants to, but rarely puts in the effort.
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Post by The Yetimonster on May 23, 2007 20:56:30 GMT -5
If you ask me, Bonnie seems to be getting more civil as season 4 goes on. She's not nice, but compared to her earlier persona, she's certainly softening up.
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Post by yes4possible on May 23, 2007 21:55:33 GMT -5
Bonnie is always put out whenever Kim outdoes her. And in Number One, she really CAN outdo Kim if she wants to, but rarely puts in the effort. that is one of those rare episode, probably the only one, where the Kim / Bonnie rivalory, that Bonnie was more closer to be right, than Kim was. Kim came off as a little snobbish and got her come upings. |
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Post by Ot@ru on May 24, 2007 5:34:39 GMT -5
Ì would like Bonnie to be mean as usual, but it would be good if she finally shows that she appreciates Kim and Ron. I'm sure that deep down, she does. Ok, maybe a little too deep down, but I think it's there. Maybe Bon-Bon respect Kim more now... |
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on May 26, 2007 17:53:09 GMT -5
I finally found a formula for Bonnie's personality! Take 2 parts Kuzco, and 2 parts Gaston, and you practically have Bonnie right there! She's the arrogant, stubborn, "perfect" person Gaston was, and the self-centered whiny incompetent person Kuzco was. Now supposing this is a formula for her personality, she has the capacity to be the kind of cold-blooded villain Gaston became when pushed over the edge, or the kind of warm-hearted nice guy Kuzco became. I'm hoping for, but doubting the likelihood of, the cold-blooded villain. Just a semi-relevant realization.
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Post by Rognik on May 26, 2007 17:57:12 GMT -5
I don't think Bonnie is that incompetant. She just doesn't try that often.
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Post by yes4possible on May 27, 2007 20:09:19 GMT -5
I finally found a formula for Bonnie's personality! Take 2 parts Kuzco, and 2 parts Gaston, and you practically have Bonnie right there! She's the arrogant, stubborn, "perfect" person Gaston was, and the self-centered whiny incompetent person Kuzco was. Now supposing this is a formula for her personality, she has the capacity to be the kind of cold-blooded villain Gaston became when pushed over the edge, or the kind of warm-hearted nice guy Kuzco became. I'm hoping for, but doubting the likelihood of, the cold-blooded villain. Just a semi-relevant realization. Funny you are comparing her to other characters. The other day I was comparing her to Brad from American Dragon: Jake Long, I have always felt differently for each of them, even though they play the same role. They are both both antagonist for the main character. Despite that, I feel Bonnie has lots of depth, have sympathy for her, and thought she had redemable qualties. While I feel the exact opposite for Brad. I despise him, I think he is just a plain old jerk. Why is that? Shouldn't I feel the same for these characters. Is it because one is a girl, and the other is a boy? Is it because I know about Bonnie and her sisters? Why? |
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Post by Rognik on May 27, 2007 22:31:31 GMT -5
It's because Bonnie actually has some smarts while Brad, from the little I've seen, doesn't. Bonnie isn't a total PITA, either. Kim and Bonnie are on the biting end of civil. I doubt Brad could even spell 'civil'.
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Post by yes4possible on May 27, 2007 23:02:51 GMT -5
Couldn't spell "civil" good one. Which reminds me, like her or not, you have to admit Bonnie has had some clever insults. She is on Kim's level when it comes to banter. Brad is always calling Jake "dofus", and the best wit he has come up with is "Jake short."
Another Bonnie / Brad difference is, Kim and Bonnie are equal footing. When they compete over anything, Bonnie always puts up a good close fair fight. Jake and Brad (except for a no dragon power fist fight, though if Jake used his martial arts skill, he could win) competition are one sided in Jake's favor. The only time Brad beats Jake is by cheating.
Also there a times, when Bonnie is in the right such as Number One and Queen Bebe, when Kim came of as kind of glory hog, or arrogant, and Bonnie was more in the right in my opinion. Though Jake at times can be in the wrong, Brad is never in the right, and he always comes off as a bigger jerk.
The episodes that best explains the difference is Hidden Talent and The Talented Mr. Long, both are about a talent show competition. Brad locks Jake in the bathroom and sabotages the other contesdents.
I don't think Bonnie would ever do that. In a competition with Kim, she would never make sure Kim was eliminated by having her detain elsewhere, or cheating. Because to Bonnie that is an admitted Kim is better than her, and she can only beat her by chearting, or if Kim wasn't in the competition. That is not a victory for Bonnie.
Which also means, if Kim ever shows sympathy for her, and decides to take a dive and let Bonnie have this one, if Bonnie found out she would be furious at Kim. She wants Kim at her best. Let the best girl win.
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