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Post by Professor Dementor on Aug 10, 2007 11:46:16 GMT -5
Vell, if you vonder if Fräulein Rockwaller is a villain, you should be clear on vat a villain is. In my opinion, villains are a misunderstood group.
Oh, and I do not consider her a villain.
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Post by jade on Aug 10, 2007 12:03:24 GMT -5
well.......in homecoming upset kim did said bonnie was more evil than any villian she ever fought, and it was a new low when she kissed her boyfriend ron.
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Post by Tanith L on Aug 10, 2007 13:52:34 GMT -5
well, bonnie... she is a not villain. true villains are worse than her and I can name a few examples.
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Post by Guru Mandi (will return) on Aug 10, 2007 15:33:08 GMT -5
Bonnie? A villian? Hold on to that thought for a moment... *laughs head off*
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Aug 10, 2007 17:06:26 GMT -5
Bonnie? A villian? Hold on to that thought for a moment... *laughs head off* Actually, in the classical sense, she is. Classical definition (as my texbook defines Shakespeare's use of it in The Tragedy of Romeo and Juliet): A boorish stupid person. Who argues that the definition doesn't apply to Bonnie?
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Post by Alexlayer on Aug 10, 2007 19:09:49 GMT -5
Bonnie fits for the definition of "Antagonist", since she is one for Kim in her daily life, but villain? Please...
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Post by Whisper from the Shadows on Aug 11, 2007 0:49:15 GMT -5
Bonnie? A villian? Hold on to that thought for a moment... *laughs head off* Actually, in the classical sense, she is. Classical definition (as my texbook defines Shakespeare's use of it in The Tragedy of Romeo and Juliet): A boorish stupid person. Who argues that the definition doesn't apply to Bonnie? I would argue that, she is far from boring, and is obviously not stupid (you can't be involved in extra-curricular activities without good grades). As for the reference to Bonnie in Romeo and Jiliet... umm where were you going with that? I've read it a few times, and there aren't any characters I would relate to her in it. Unless I'm forgetting someone, in which case please refresh my memory.
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Post by Luke Danger on Aug 11, 2007 12:08:36 GMT -5
heh, give bonnie a Red Lightsaber, some dark Jedi robes, mabye some Dark-Side force powers like Choke, Force Lighting, Drain Life, and force scream, THEN we would have a villian
or just have her throw on some Mandalorian Armor, give her a blaster, and send her to work for the Hutts or the Exchange. Really, anyone looking for Mandalorian guns-for-hire
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Aug 12, 2007 13:26:13 GMT -5
Actually, in the classical sense, she is. Classical definition (as my texbook defines Shakespeare's use of it in The Tragedy of Romeo and Juliet): A boorish stupid person. Who argues that the definition doesn't apply to Bonnie? I would argue that, she is far from boring, and is obviously not stupid (you can't be involved in extra-curricular activities without good grades). As for the reference to Bonnie in Romeo and Jiliet... umm where were you going with that? I've read it a few times, and there aren't any characters I would relate to her in it. Unless I'm forgetting someone, in which case please refresh my memory. Not boring, boorish. Also, the reference was just a use of the classical sense.
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Post by Mike de Ike on Aug 13, 2007 15:59:21 GMT -5
Nobody's answered my question on what kind of villain should Bonnie be. Personally, I'd rather have this happen in Homecoming Upset than her getting away with what she did.
Bonnie and Team Possible track Senior Junior down to a chemical plant. While Junior is fighting Kim, Bonnie calls her not worthy enough to be a girlfriend. This ticks Ron off, and he swings around...and PUNCHES Bonnie. Stumbling, the selfish girl waddles to the edge of a railing, and trips off it, falling....into a vat...of toxic chemicals!! Anyways, Kim doesn't see what happened, and Ron doesn't want her to think that he tried to kill Bonnie, so he lies that Bonnie fell into the vat by accident. No life signs come from the chemicals, and Junior goes home once everything is cleared up.
Kim goes home with Ron and becomes Homecoming Queen. They share a passionate kiss, to which Wade disgustedly covers the screen with his hand.
During the credits, the chemical plant is shown from the inside, and we see the vat Bonnie fell into. A few bubbles come from it, and a green arm extends from the goo, and grabs onto the edge...
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Aug 13, 2007 17:05:25 GMT -5
Nobody's answered my question on what kind of villain should Bonnie be. Personally, I'd rather have this happen in Homecoming Upset than her getting away with what she did. Bonnie and Team Possible track Senior Junior down to a chemical plant. While Junior is fighting Kim, Bonnie calls her not worthy enough to be a girlfriend. This ticks Ron off, and he swings around...and PUNCHES Bonnie. Stumbling, the selfish girl waddles to the edge of a railing, and trips off it, falling....into a vat...of toxic chemicals!! Anyways, Kim doesn't see what happened, and Ron doesn't want her to think that he tried to kill Bonnie, so he lies that Bonnie fell into the vat by accident. No life signs come from the chemicals, and Junior goes home once everything is cleared up. Kim goes home with Ron and becomes Homecoming Queen. They share a passionate kiss, to which Wade disgustedly covers the screen with his hand. During the credits, the chemical plant is shown from the inside, and we see the vat Bonnie fell into. A few bubbles come from it, and a green arm extends from the goo, and grabs onto the edge... Joker much? Anyways, yeah. That is what should've been there. As soon as I get my DeLorean, I'll hand a copy of that to Bob and Mark about a year and a half ago.
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Post by Mike de Ike on Aug 17, 2007 21:36:23 GMT -5
I think if Bonnie becomes a baddie, the most logical choice for the genre would be a techno-baddie. Also, since I just watched Homecoming Upset on YT, I'd have Kim say this to Bonnie:
"You've been a thorn in my side for as long as I can remember, Bonnie, and I'm going to tell you a very blunt truth. Brick broke up with you because you're worthless and ugly. That's right, ugly. Ugly, stupid, cruel, selfish, and just plain unfit in every way. He didn't love you, and no one else will, either. So take your hideous face and GET OUT OF MY LIFE!!"
Ahh...I feel nasty...yet satisfied. ;D
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 18, 2007 6:11:11 GMT -5
Ahh...I feel nasty...yet satisfied. ;D you should be. ;D
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Post by ninjanaco on Aug 18, 2007 7:26:29 GMT -5
Nobody's answered my question on what kind of villain should Bonnie be. Personally, I'd rather have this happen in Homecoming Upset than her getting away with what she did. Bonnie and Team Possible track Senior Junior down to a chemical plant. While Junior is fighting Kim, Bonnie calls her not worthy enough to be a girlfriend. This ticks Ron off, and he swings around...and PUNCHES Bonnie. Stumbling, the selfish girl waddles to the edge of a railing, and trips off it, falling....into a vat...of toxic chemicals!! Anyways, Kim doesn't see what happened, and Ron doesn't want her to think that he tried to kill Bonnie, so he lies that Bonnie fell into the vat by accident. No life signs come from the chemicals, and Junior goes home once everything is cleared up. Kim goes home with Ron and becomes Homecoming Queen. They share a passionate kiss, to which Wade disgustedly covers the screen with his hand. During the credits, the chemical plant is shown from the inside, and we see the vat Bonnie fell into. A few bubbles come from it, and a green arm extends from the goo, and grabs onto the edge... So, instead of Bonnie getting away with corruption, we have Ron getting away with lying and possibly murder? (Though, from what you describe, he might not have intended to send her falling into a vat of toxic goo.) Right, that's soo much better...
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Post by mike on Aug 18, 2007 7:43:29 GMT -5
I think if Bonnie becomes a baddie, the most logical choice for the genre would be a techno-baddie. Also, since I just watched Homecoming Upset on YT, I'd have Kim say this to Bonnie: "You've been a thorn in my side for as long as I can remember, Bonnie, and I'm going to tell you a very blunt truth. Brick broke up with you because you're worthless and ugly. That's right, ugly. Ugly, stupid, cruel, selfish, and just plain unfit in every way. He didn't love you, and no one else will, either. So take your hideous face and GET OUT OF MY LIFE!!" Ahh...I feel nasty...yet satisfied. ;D That's really *shudders* evil....
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Post by Luke Danger on Aug 18, 2007 11:23:14 GMT -5
I think Bonnie would be more of a second-in-command or some sort of diplomatic role, because she is such a minipulative witch
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Post by clayton on Aug 18, 2007 13:58:00 GMT -5
Actually I can easily see her bossing Junior around and having him rip off the largest mall int he world...
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Aug 18, 2007 14:17:55 GMT -5
Nobody's answered my question on what kind of villain should Bonnie be. Personally, I'd rather have this happen in Homecoming Upset than her getting away with what she did. Bonnie and Team Possible track Senior Junior down to a chemical plant. While Junior is fighting Kim, Bonnie calls her not worthy enough to be a girlfriend. This ticks Ron off, and he swings around...and PUNCHES Bonnie. Stumbling, the selfish girl waddles to the edge of a railing, and trips off it, falling....into a vat...of toxic chemicals!! Anyways, Kim doesn't see what happened, and Ron doesn't want her to think that he tried to kill Bonnie, so he lies that Bonnie fell into the vat by accident. No life signs come from the chemicals, and Junior goes home once everything is cleared up. Kim goes home with Ron and becomes Homecoming Queen. They share a passionate kiss, to which Wade disgustedly covers the screen with his hand. During the credits, the chemical plant is shown from the inside, and we see the vat Bonnie fell into. A few bubbles come from it, and a green arm extends from the goo, and grabs onto the edge... So, instead of Bonnie getting away with corruption, we have Ron getting away with lying and possibly murder? (Though, from what you describe, he might not have intended to send her falling into a vat of toxic goo.) Right, that's soo much better... Yes, it is, because the queen of all b****es gets her come-uppance. Her veneer of physical beauty is gone. All that's left is what people should have seen before: her ugly personality.
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Post by Mike de Ike on Aug 18, 2007 15:19:06 GMT -5
Exactly what he said. Also, to previous comments, in a sense, what Ron would say is true. He didn't throw Bonnie into the vat, he punched her, she stumbled, and she fell on her own. Besides, honesty aint' always the best policy. Compare it to saying your mom's cookies are delicious when they're actually moldy.
*I mean no offense to anybody's mother 's cooking by the above comment.
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Post by Luke Danger on Aug 18, 2007 16:23:58 GMT -5
I did no really, I didn't. Though, ever wonder what bonnie would be like if she got the chance to ruin Kim's rep, forever?
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