Well, with so many replies accumulated and being the one who started this thread, I guess I should reply for everyone already.
While this thread didn’t mean to ask everybody’s opinion on KiGo, I thank to all those who brought me support, comprehension and a call for peace. Because I do believe we can try to get along as a nice community even if we don’t like the same things. So, to those who agree, thanks guys.
That aside, many have listed the reason for which KiGo tends to be rejected. Some reasons more worthy than others, in my opinion, but all of them considerable. I think we’re reaching somewhere.
Now, one very frequent argument brought was the one of not seeing KiGo happening, which I totally respect and understand. What I don’t understand is how this could be a reason to hate and/or disrespect KiGo and its fans. Just because one doesn’t believe in something doesn’t give the right to mistreat those who do believe. In the same vein, I don’t believe much in the compatibility of Kim and Ron, but I do nothing beyond stating my opinion about it. I know better not to disrespect others because they don’t agree with me. In any case, I could gladly tell everyone many reasons to see KiGo happening, but I doubt anyone around here is interested to hear that.
Another common element stated was homophobia, which is really not surprising. Personally, I’m against homophobia, but like I said before, I’m not going to judge anyone. I think I’m like
Nabusan on this aspect. Why? Because I may be straight, I may be white, but even so, I darn well know how it feels to be discriminated for being different, and I tell everyone, it’s a nightmare. One I do not wish not even to my enemies. That’s why I’m against any kind of discrimination, and whatever the reason may be, homophobia, just like racism, is a form and cause of discrimination.
But among all the reasons, the one I’ve found the most comprehensive and wise is
Ninnik’s. For knowing how to take things and where to place the blame, and making darn good points on everything. Yeah, too much of anything tends to become annoying, unless, of course, you’re a fan of it. But even as a KiGo Shipper, there are some fanfics I haven’t liked. So, on behalf of the KiGo Fandom, I sincerely apology for the annoyance caused to you.
And to reply to your question, yeah. That conversation about Drakken’s portrayal in KiGo back then was with me. You know, there was a discussion about why Drakken was usually put in such role during most KiGo Fanfics at the
KP Slash Haven some time ago, and understanding reasons were stated. But at some point, I think that also caused some writers to change a bit their perspective of Drakken, and thus, his portrayal in some fanfics (I’ve come to even find fanfics where Drakken, finding out Shego’s in love with Kim, tries to support her).
But, going back to the topic, I understand your position. Thanks for the truthfulness.
Same for
Sweetnsour, I agree on what you said, and I’m sorry that it annoys other people, but please understand that KiGo shippers also get annoyed by others things of the fandom every now and them. Of course, I’m not justifying any kind of attack towards any pairing or person in particular, but I raise my vote for us to be a tolerant and peaceful community.
I can always understand people not liking the things I like, but hating it feels like taking it to no good levels, specially when it’s not hurting anyone. And really, any annoyance caused by it is NOT intentional.
Like
Lordvictorino said: Ship and Let Ship. I may not like others pairings, but that doesn’t mean I dislike them, mind them, let alone hate them. Particualy, I’m keen on Drakkim Shippers not really because of the pairing (Not that I consider it a bad one), but because we share the position of liking a couple that might most likely never become Canon. And besides, people like
Drakken’sPrincess have always been an example of good members in this forum, and I wish we could all be like that.
Also, like
Wallaceb voiced: Whatever one ships should not have any effect on anyone else. In the same vein, no pairing should be considered superior to another. It’s just a matter of taste.
Fusion Fox gave a good list of examples of why KiGo gets the short end of the stick (And
NinjaRabbit, by that I mean being the most bashed/persecuted pairing around). Truth to be told, it’s sad that KiGo and K/R, the two most popular pairings, got to be against each other just because of the nature of them. Can’t be helped there, but just because of that, I don’t think there’s no solution. Just because both pairings could never co-exist in one fictional universe doesn’t mean the fans got to attack each other, now does it?
But
Andr00 made a very good point on what he said. Because regardless of that logic, it’s pretty clear that the main Anti-KiGo people out there are strong K/R Fans. I’m not going to lie: Their attitudes do annoy me from time to time, but I rather do better than responding to that. And like
Danman said already, Hate is a very strong word in my opinion and far more than what I could feel for someone who just doesn’t like what I like, regardless of their opinions on what I like.
Argus, I acknowledge your dislike and I’m grateful for the respect by not messing with KiGo Shippers. That aside, your post hasn’t answered my question. Just saying. You don’t have to do it if you don’t want to.
Slick… first things first, I’d be glad if you would stop jumping at my neck on every chance you got. In case you haven’t read the very first lines of my first post, I do not intend to provoke anyone nor cause any problem or fight. So please stop accusing me of wanting such things. All I want is a good conversation and, if possible, for all of us to reach an understanding. Unfortunately, I cannot understand how those reasons you stated could possible justify Hate, but they definitely won’t justify the aggression you have shown towards KiGo and its fans in the past. But for the time I’ve known you, I don’t think I can expect you to understand me either. I’m really sorry you feel like this, but sadly, I can’t do anything about that.
Yvs, your post has particularly called my attention, because your list of reasons doesn’t seem to be directed toward the pairing itself, but to its fans.
-First reason, we can leave it aside.
-Second one, that’s just a personal opinion. From my point of view, I really doubt the authors would put Kim and Shego in a mud fight or do the entire STG episode without thinking of how we would react. You can totally disagree if you want, but like I said before, I don’t think other people’s opinions and belief should annoy you or anyone like that.
-Moving on to the third reason (Correct me if I’m wrong, but did you add them Drakken and D/S some time after posting the original message?), I would tell you to read some KiGo fanfictions before saying things like that, specially because of Ron. Though I doubt you ever will, so I’ll tell you that, at least in the KiGo fanfiction I’ve read, Ron has come to receive a better portrayal than in Canon itself, even though, if you think of it, there’s just no need for him to be in KiGo fanfiction just like Shego doesn’t need to be in K/R fanfiction.
-Forth case, I don’t think you can blame anyone. You may watch the show because you love K/R, but that doesn’t others have to do it because of that very same reason, specially considering that K/R wasn’t canonical ‘til the last season and D/S ‘til the finale. Just like many people don’t like KiGo, many people don’t like K/R either and that’s that. The show’s not all about K/R either.
-Fifth reason, though, I give you the right on this time. We KiGo Shippers are not perfect either and we have had our mistakes in the past, like that you said, or having accused some people of being homophobic, like
Mr.Potty said, even though I haven’t taken much part on both cases. But I repeat, your reasons seem to be far more focused on KiGo shippers than in KiGo itself.
Also,
Mr.Potty, I understand what you said. That’s also part of the reason for which I made this thread on the first place.
Well, with agreements and disagreements already expressed, I got just a few more things to do.
Danmam, regarding your request about my opinion, well, it’s hard to explain, but here it is. First thing first, I find the pairing extremely interesting, and your own view of the relationship between Kim and Shego is part of the reason for that. Like you say, Shego might see something of herself, or what she could have been, in Kim, and this might make her want to personally destroy Kim to rectify her decision. But the thing is, that decision was to be evil, and personally, I don’t see Shego as totally evil. She screaming that in “Go Team Go” only makes it believe it less, because evil people don’t represent themselves through that word. Shego is, so far, the most ‘gray’ character of the show so far. I just like it was stated many times in this forum, I can see that she usually gets annoyed by Kim, but I don’t see a darn reason to believe that she hates her. Same for Kim, regardless of how angry she was at her during “So The Drama”, she clearly overcame those feelings by the time of “Stop Team Go”.
So, they have a fiercely rivalry with mixed feelings on it, including something that almost looks like friendship (“So, small talk?”, “Mmm… not so much”). That aside, KiGo is fairly comparable to K/R in one aspect, and that’s how the members of each couple are quite different from each other. But if you analyze them a bit, you could see that there are many traits of them that can indicate that they would work great as a couple. And that’s what there is in many KiGo fanfics out there. And this is all without counting that I find them extremely cute and adorable together! (I’d post some pics here to emphasize, but someone would get annoyed for sure, so I’ll just give you some links:
KiGo. Watch if you want).
If you’d be willing to, I give you, and
Joe Stoppinghem, what I think are two of the best KiGo stories out there:
Alone, Together. Probably the story with the most realistic approach for Kim and Shego, specially considering they are both straight in this fic. After reading this, I dare say you won’t be able to say you don’t see KiGo happening.
The Road Not Taken. A really powerful story full of drama, sacrifices, broken hearts and tears. See how love can grow between two persons and what it can drive them to do.
Well, I’ll stop shoving KiGo into people’s faces now and move on.
I must admit, I was a bit worried when I started this thread, but I think it turned out quite well so far, and so, I hope it goes on like this. So we can prove we can all get along regardless of whatever we prefer.
“No lovers, no enemies. No fights, no angry.
Just friends enjoying some good Coco-moo”