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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 20:35:46 GMT -5
Oh yes, I probably hae a copy somewhere. What's your approximate record in such war games?
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 20:40:19 GMT -5
I usually do pretty well. Most of the time we used them as an alaytic tool, so we tended to go back and replay turns a bunch to see how different things would work out.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 20:44:45 GMT -5
I usually do pretty well. Most of the time we used them as an alaytic tool, so we tended to go back and replay turns a bunch to see how different things would work out. Interesting. ;D What's your view about Risk?
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 20:46:09 GMT -5
It's especially good with booze. We used to send people who lost a turn on beer runs (this applied to a number of other games, as well).
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 20:49:59 GMT -5
It's especially good with booze. We used to send people who lost a turn on beer runs (this applied to a number of other games, as well). I like the idea of drunk generals in Risk. I don't remember if I've asked or not, but which war has been the most interesting to you?
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 20:52:24 GMT -5
It sort of varies with subject area, WWII at sea, the British colonial wars of the 19th century are areas of special interest, but basically anything in the age of gunpowder catches my interest, especially Napoleonic wars and later.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 20:54:35 GMT -5
It sort of varies with subject area, WWII at sea, the British colonial wars of the 19th century are areas of special interest, but basically anything in the age of gunpowder catches my interest, especially Napoleonic wars and later. Who were some of the great generals in your opinion?
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 21:16:23 GMT -5
It's interesting in that most generals are good at specific times and places and poor at others. Arthur Wellesly (the Duke of Wellington) is a case in point, he performed brilliantly at Waterloo and in the Peninsular Campaign, but did not adapt well to the advent of industrial warfare. Some of the great one's are, to me: George Washington (adapted to a really steep learning curve in organising an amateur army). U. S. Grant (superb strategic thinker) W. T. Sherman (esentially invented modern industrial warfare) R. E. Lee (masreful defensive strategist) Napoleon (pretty much goes without saying) Sir Garnet Woolsely (reformed the British Army) Von Moltke the elder (devised the modern reserve system) George S Crook (figured out how to defeat the Plains Indians) Lord Roberts (master tactician of the late Empire period) John J Pershing (modernised the US Army) Erwin Rommel (developed the theory behind modern mechanised tactics) Heinz Gudierin (applied Rommel) Marshall Zhukov (developed massed armor tactics) Smedley Butler (developed amphibious assault tactics) There's lots of others, one has to apply specific circumstances to each case.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 21:20:22 GMT -5
It's interesting in that most generals are good at specific times and places and poor at others. Arthur Wellesly (the Duke of Wellington) is a case in point, he performed brilliantly at Waterloo and in the Peninsular Campaign, but did not adapt well to the advent of industrial warfare. Some of the great one's are, to me: George Washington (adapted to a really steep learning curve in organising an amateur army). U. S. Grant (superb strategic thinker) W. T. Sherman (esentially invented modern industrial warfare) R. E. Lee (masreful defensive strategist) Napoleon (pretty much goes without saying) Sir Garnet Woolsely (reformed the British Army) Von Moltke the elder (devised the modern reserve system) George S Crook (figured out how to defeat the Plains Indians) Lord Roberts (master tactician of the late Empire period) John J Pershing (modernised the US Army) Erwin Rommel (developed the theory behind modern mechanised tactics) Heinz Gudierin (applied Rommel) Marshall Zhukov (developed massed armor tactics) Smedley Butler (developed amphibious assault tactics) There's lots of others, one has to apply specific circumstances to each case. Who would you consider the most well rounded (or does that depend on staff to you)?
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 21:25:14 GMT -5
Grant had a real genius for organising people.
One thing Colin Powell was especially sharp at was knowing when to let his subordinates operate without interference.
Staff is really important moreso in modern warfare, there are a ton of details involved in preparing and fighting a battle and having area experts is vital.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 21:31:53 GMT -5
Grant had a real genius for organising people. One thing Colin Powell was especially sharp at was knowing when to let his subordinates operate without interference. Staff is really important moreso in modern warfare, there are a ton of details involved in preparing and fighting a battle and having area experts is vital. Do you think modern generals can get away with being alcoholics? ;D *gives eclogite a glass of his favorite alcoholic beverage*
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 21:36:47 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll get you one, too.
Alcoholics, not really, there is too much at stake now (contrary to popular myth, Grant wasn't an alcoholic, though he did drink) to place that kind of responsibility in the hands of someone unstable. Most that I've known do drink, but not when they're working (pretty much the same principle that I apply myself).
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 21:38:00 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll get you one, too. Alcoholics, not really, there is too much at stake now (contrary to popular myth, Grant wasn't an alcoholic, though he did drink) to place that kind of responsibility in the hands of someone unstable. Most that I've known do drink, but not when they're working (pretty much the same principle that I apply myself). Do you believe yourself to be the very model of a modern major general? ;D
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Post by PoisonousAngel on Oct 10, 2008 21:47:25 GMT -5
Who do you think is prettier: Angelina Jolie or Keira Knightley?
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 21:50:41 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll get you one, too. Alcoholics, not really, there is too much at stake now (contrary to popular myth, Grant wasn't an alcoholic, though he did drink) to place that kind of responsibility in the hands of someone unstable. Most that I've known do drink, but not when they're working (pretty much the same principle that I apply myself). Not really, I didn't do an especially good job of polishing the front door, either. I lean towards Kiera Knightly, based on interviews, she'd probably be more fun to be around.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 21:56:08 GMT -5
Who do you think is prettier: Angelina Jolie or Keira Knightley? Tough call... I'm going to give the edge to Keira. She's got a softer sort of look about her. More realistic as well.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 21:58:37 GMT -5
Not really, I didn't do an especially good job of polishing the front door, either. What are tomorrow's plans looking like for you? I lean towards Kiera Knightly, based on interviews, she'd probably be more fun to be around. Where do you know her from?
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 22:02:00 GMT -5
Going up to work on the boat for a couple of days, hope to get the bottom painted this weekend. Be signing off prety soon.
I don't know her, just read an interview once, she sounded a bit more grounded and interesting than most of the Hollywood types.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Oct 10, 2008 22:06:28 GMT -5
Going up to work on the boat for a couple of days, hope to get the bottom painted this weekend. Be signing off prety soon. Thanks for helping me accomplish my goal with this thread. Hope you have fun painting... you going to listen to some music while you work?
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Post by eclogite on Oct 10, 2008 22:12:09 GMT -5
Sure thing, we'll hit it again when I get back.
Painting is sort of Zen-like, relaxing in it's way. I usually jusy listen to the sounds of the bay, about the only time I listen to music is when I'm driving.
Catch you later.
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