Clearly there is only one name manly enough for the effort to revive two cartoon shows, one of which (and the one which far more of us here seem to actually care about) stars a female protagonist: THE EXPERTS OF JUSTICE!
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Sorry, I just love the name "Experts of Justice." And the "league" thing got me thinking "Justice League," so...
Suffice it to say, my thoughts are no, in spite of not being an active participant. That being said...
I realize I'm not really a member of the Fight for Five/whatever but... how far are we -taking- this "alliance?" Yeah, I get that Jake Long fans want their show back, too. But, not to be snippy... why is that our concern? If you actually like Jake Long and want it back--great! Write Disney some letters, by all means. But why are we combining the efforts here? Won't that confuse our objectives? I mean, what are we fighting for at this point, for Disney to bring back every show they've ever canceled? Where does it end? You can't actually -want- to revive every single show out there except maybe on principle, and it's not going to convince -anyone- that a show deserves to be revived if your reasoning is that -all- shows deserve to be revived.
And just think for a minute: If our mission suddenly changes from "We want a fifth season of Kim Possible," to "We want a fifth season of Kim Possible -and- a third season of Jake Long," look how much more difficult we've made it for ourselves. If Disney is reluctant to bring back even -one- show they've ended (and really, it's hard to blame them for that, say what you will about the fact that they should have ordered a fifth season at the time) and we start demanding -two- shows... isn't it more likely that they'll just ignore it altogether?
I guess what I'm saying here is... the Jake Long fans have their own fight ahead of them, and if we're only helping them because "Well, it's another fan movement to save a show," not because we actually care that much about saving Jake Long, then that show really -doesn't- have the fan support we're claiming it does, which is the BASIS of our reasoning to revive the show in the first place. And the opposite is true as well, with regards to KP (I say it this way because it was the Jake Long fans who suggested the merger, if memory serves).
That being said, if you're all determined to go ahead with this... keep the name "Fight for Five." Three Fs, nice, short, and sweet, plus it's what you're already known by. Instead, create a "group" name, for instance "The Disney Animation Revival Effort," (D.A.R.E.? You could get some puns out of that or something, at least, although I think the anti-drug "D.A.R.E." may have used most of them already) which would then -include- the Kim Possible Fight for Five and the Jake Long Fight for Three. Don't try to -merge- the efforts, just put them under the same heading. That way we're not trying to be something we're not (ie, actively fighting for the revival of shows maybe we don't care about), but we -are- expressing support for the other movement(s), by at least saying "We all believe in the same general idea, that Disney is killing some of their best shows and should bring them back."
Kudos to anyone who bothered to read all that. There's nothing quite so annoying as making a big impassioned speech and being completely ignored, really.
You summed up my concerns about the 'alliance' perfectly. No offense to anyone who's for it, but I don't see it helping an already struggling campaign. I'll still do the SaveKP thing that I've been doing since joining back in 2005 but don't expect me to put time into something that could do more harm than good.
"If they had a king for fools, would you wear the crown?" -- "Take a look at the flower, so fatal, yet beautiful. Showed the bee where to fly and then let it die." -- "The cruelty in our hearts will tear this world apart." -- "Love sounds familiar, but the emotion escapes me."
DuoHimura summons up how I feel about the alliance(which I have been reluctant to voice my opinion against it), and it is slowing the FFF movement down almost drasticly. It is hard to please both individual groups at once and in trying to applease each other our movement will crash and burn.
Post by Luke Danger on Dec 4, 2007 18:14:43 GMT -5
K, well, we got more shows then just KP and Am Drag on DC to save.
One of my school teachers said something about Darkwing Duck, a very good DC series, and doesn't even get box sets.
If we, after getting Am Drag and KP (more worried about Am Drag personally, because it hasn't had its 65 episodes yet) saved, why not save shows like that? Even if it is just boxsets, if we convince Disney that boxsetting shows that were popular whenever they came out is a good thing, and (for the head honchos of Disney) big profits, then they may be encouraged to do the same thing to other shows.