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Post by Ron Alfred Salavore on Dec 5, 2007 12:11:06 GMT -5
No to disney animation league.
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Post by name on Dec 5, 2007 12:34:09 GMT -5
don't remind me about happy u year, ADJL wasn't a voting option, grrr
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Post by morefood2001 on Dec 5, 2007 13:47:20 GMT -5
Hi everyone, lord victorino probably posted what he did because of what I have been talking about in the chat for a day or two now. Let me first say this, I feel as if the fandom is too split right now (as in the boxed sets vs season 5 fighters) as it is to do much, and now those of us who are fighting want to argue over the details of the season 5 efforts, why not save all that energy and put it towards Disney, the real enemy? (Just a side note: I do believe that Season 5 and Boxed sets are both very realistic and obtainable goals.) These latest events are really making me wonder if it is worth staying well informed on the fight, and further more if it is even worth participating in the fight as a member. Right now, sadly, I am seriously considering if I should back way off from the fight and let it take its own course. I think that elvisjj and lord victorino have very valid points about naming the fight. So what would happen if I left? I send emails and letters all the time to Disney asking for boxed sets and a chance for S5, that would never change no matter what! Also my participation in the RS general sections and chat room would not change. I enjoy being in those places. The part that would slightly change is the way that I help on FFKP and other alliance sites. Currently, I have been the person behind FFKP's design and some of its maitence. This will not change if it doesn't have to. However the decision making chats are a huge headache that I don't need and therefore, I am going to start ignoring that stuff. I feel as if the bottom line is: I am a college student, and I don't have the time to dilly dally around, so I am going to start ignoring the stuff that makes me feel as if nothing is getting done. If you ask me, the standard name: the KP / ADJL Alliance is perfect. The Fight for Five shouldn't be taken away either, just integrate it as an effort branching from this alliance. However, take it for what its worth. I am going to back down a little bit now and watch what happens. The fight is up to you, as for me, I will continue doing what I am doing, in my happy little corner Please and Thank You, Phil
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Post by name on Dec 5, 2007 14:09:26 GMT -5
ok phil, thanks for that speech. can we still use SOS for alliance chat?
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Post by executor on Dec 5, 2007 14:55:20 GMT -5
Ok I like our old name.
"deep breath"For real Im pretty exhausted of things that are happening here. Only thing I know is that I want KP back.
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Post by ogehsim on Dec 5, 2007 15:16:15 GMT -5
Believe it or not guys there's a reason for everything that happens. I've looked at all angles of how we can get Kim Possible back for a Season Five. Then I had to look at the marketing aspects through Disney's eyes. Remember ogehsim, a long time ago when you talked about marketing ourselves to Disney. Well I did some marketing and came up with the perfect solution, Kim Possible and American Dragon together back to back. Even Steve Loter did both shows, a plus to this happening. What are the stats on ADJL? Because from what I've been hearing, JL doesn't have that strong of a fan base- that's why they came to us for an alliance. Would it really boost ratings to have these two shows back to back?
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Post by morefood2001 on Dec 5, 2007 15:28:09 GMT -5
ok phil, thanks for that speech. can we still use SOS for alliance chat? Go for it.
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Post by name on Dec 5, 2007 15:28:58 GMT -5
under any other circumstance, a comment like "ADJL can't boost the ratings" would cause me to write an extrememly rude comment.
however, i really want to try to be nice , and say , just cause our fan base isn't that strong (and mostly cause i can't access the other ADJL forum, cause im banned) doesn't mean the show isn't good.
ADJL is an extremely good, severly mistreated show.
it fits with KP. beleive me, it wouldn't work having KP/replacements back to back.
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Post by ogehsim on Dec 5, 2007 15:30:54 GMT -5
I didn't say it can't. I asked if it could. I know nothing of ADJL ratings and was asking for someone to enlighten me. Please do not take my question the wrong way.
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Post by name on Dec 5, 2007 17:37:05 GMT -5
ok ok . you should watch ADJL, and decide for yourself!'
im serious. i think ADJL would catch on to a lot of the KP fans.
KP is catching on to me.
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Post by tidus on Dec 5, 2007 18:10:30 GMT -5
American Dragon has gotten good ratings, Season 2's ratings were in the higher tier of Disney Show ratings
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Post by arkansandragon on Dec 5, 2007 19:39:48 GMT -5
You guys, and girls, are right. We have more important things to do then argue over a name! I mean, what would the Disney guys think if they saw us like this? I'll tell you what they would think. They would see it as weakness and explot it and that would be the end of us. We must not let petty bickering drive us apart.
This Alliance was formed, but it can be shattered just as easily....... We must not allow that to happen. This battle we fight, it's not just about Kim Possible, or just about American Dragon, this is about ALL of us. This is bigger then both shows, for it is not only about saving them, but about saving good quality cartoons as we know them! (but that's just my opinion)
But our first goal, is to save KP and ADJL and get them aired back to back! (I completely agree with you elvisjj! ) Now, we all know this will not happen over-night...... It will take time, patince, and planning....... after all, An attack without stategy, is a battle soon lost........ (and yes, I made that one up myself)
Know that it is an empire we face in this battle, but we must never give up. Not matter what happens, we must keep at them, keep at Disney until they give in to us. We may not be fans of both shows...... but we share the same goal....... and that should be reason enough to fight. I ask you, as my allies, my comrades, my friends........ If we don't stand up for what we think is right, if we don't stand together, united in saveing these shows we know and love, then who will?
Even the smallest of sparks, can start a raging inferno..... and we, my friends, we are that spark. The fire may smolder and die....... but take heart, for from those ashes we can still find hope...... We can still suceed...... after all, is it not from the ashes that the pheonix takes new life? So shall it be with Kim Possible and American Dragon!
But this can only come to pass, if we are united, and stand together in our cause...... for together, and only together, will we stand a chance aganist the empire that is Disney.......
Take courage my friends, stand together and perpare yourselves for what is to come....... A long hard path lays ahead of us........ a storm is coming........ Are you ready?
btw..... I have a plan for that name that should make all of us, or at least most of us, happy. Since no one likes it, how about, we drop the "leauge" part of the name, and call it "The Disney Animation Aillance"
What do you guys think?
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Post by name on Dec 5, 2007 20:11:28 GMT -5
i think.....i think that is a lot to read.
my god...........in the name of ADJL.........
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Post by wallaceb on Dec 6, 2007 9:24:00 GMT -5
I am going to back down a little bit now and watch what happens. The fight is up to you, as for me, I will continue doing what I am doing, in my happy little corner Please and Thank You, Phil that is what i have already been doing, and i will continue until more momentum is created
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Post by name on Dec 6, 2007 9:48:28 GMT -5
oh the momentum is building....just wait!
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Post by Redquill on Dec 6, 2007 22:12:54 GMT -5
Just want to add my no vote to "The Disney Animation League" To be honest, It sounds more like a Union of Animators, and not a union of fans of the shows Like Kim Possible and ADJL. But that is just my opinion
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Post by elvisjj on Dec 6, 2007 23:31:04 GMT -5
Couldn't have said it better myself Redquill.
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Post by name on Dec 7, 2007 12:12:33 GMT -5
yes. glad this issue will soon be completely put to rest.
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Post by jamesburningstorm on Dec 10, 2007 19:43:42 GMT -5
fight for five all the way, its pointless to change it now; besides, the fight for five is being recignised to the public... so i say keep it as it is
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Post by mrmatt on Jan 6, 2008 1:48:28 GMT -5
Voting No on the name change. Not thrilled about the alliance to begin with and a change would only stand to confuse the public to the accomplishments already made by the FFF.
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