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Post by Ot@ru on Nov 11, 2007 20:57:13 GMT -5
I guess the replament is not good...
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Post by Tenkan on Nov 12, 2007 9:35:40 GMT -5
Agreement: This will be an event to remember...
Apology: Yet...I feel my loyalties to the battle of new seasons...are decreasing.
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Post by ogehsim on Nov 12, 2007 10:03:23 GMT -5
As far as this goes, I'll have to gracefully bow out of this alliance. I never really got into Amdrag, especially when they changed drawing styles (after the first season?)
I just don't think it's fair to anyone for me to be fighting for a cause that I don't believe in heart and soul. I wish the AmDrag fans the best of luck, but as it is I will be focusing solely on KP.
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Post by Darth_Comrade on Nov 12, 2007 10:25:02 GMT -5
It's no problem if you don't believe American Dragon is worth saving as well, Ogehism. But we're also doing this so that the American Dragon fans can help us out as well.
Together we become quite a formidable force. And remember its not just about the show...its about the fans who aren't getting the acknowledgment from the company which they deserve.
Don't you believe that American Dragon fans deserve what we want as well?
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Post by NinjaRabbit on Nov 12, 2007 12:09:22 GMT -5
Ironically, American Dragon brought me back to Disney animation, and in doing so, it made me a fan of Kim Possible, so I feel like I owe American Dragon a favor.
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Post by ogehsim on Nov 12, 2007 12:50:09 GMT -5
Together we become quite a formidable force. And remember its not just about the show...its about the fans who aren't getting the acknowledgment from the company which they deserve. Don't you believe that American Dragon fans deserve what we want as well? Yes, but it's not fair to the AmDrag fans if I only give a half-hearted effort, and it's not fair to KP if I have to sacrifice some of my effort on that front to work on AmDrag resulting in my lackluster participation on both sides. I do wish the AmDrag fans all the luck, and if I manage to scrounge a few spare moments, maybe I will shoot off some e-mails to help the AmDrag cause, but as it stands I can't and won't devote myself to both causes.
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Post by ddd on Nov 12, 2007 13:23:15 GMT -5
Tenkan, dude. you're not going to bale out on us are you? We,the meatbags ;D, need you
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Post by name on Nov 12, 2007 13:36:06 GMT -5
name, you May wanna change the name here so we can identify you in other places. Just go to your profile, click modify profile, and change the name. You can use spaces and capitals in there. its time you know, i am "name". now i was name on tv.com, name234543, name4life, 4evername, huntsgirlname, etc. but....name kept getting banned. so to protect myself on tv.com , i took someone else's account ,DragnUp. but i am name, it is who i am. now i know "name" has a reputation for er...not saving teh show, but ive changed my ways. im no longer the same internet troll i once was.
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Post by name on Nov 12, 2007 14:44:30 GMT -5
and anyways, i feel its only fair to warn you all, im doing this partly for my own personal gain.
its true.
ive gotten in a lot of trouble for attempting to sabotage efforts to save Amdrag, so i vowed to redeem myself.
and so i went off on a mission to help the show however i could , which led me to ....you guys.
im glad so many people are enthusiastic in this possible kp/amdrag alliance!
for both are causes, i hope we keep fighting, you should never give up hope for a cause you believe in.
as long as there are fans, there is always hope.
now i know some people aren't keen on helping amdrag, thats ok im no KP maniac either, my friends.
however, when it comes down to it, Kim possible AND amdrag are both quality shows, and id be much happier to help you guys get your show back, then have ... Replacements, or Phineas and Ferb on Disney *shudders in disgust*
So, in the words of Yzma from "kronks new groove"
"help me to you to help me help them,
help me to help them to help you."
second question: how would you lot feel about going to the next Amdrag live chat rally, to discuss the amdrag/kp alliance with some people from SDS, etc?
more on that soon.
thanks for giving me such a warm welcome to the forum.
Save OUR Shows!
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Post by Supergirl on Nov 12, 2007 15:08:10 GMT -5
1234 Kim and Jake walked out the door 5678 Bring them back, they're both so great
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Post by name on Nov 12, 2007 17:05:12 GMT -5
er.......certaintly you don't mean kim/jake?
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Post by frozenfire on Nov 12, 2007 22:05:19 GMT -5
1234 Kim and Jake walked out the door 5678 Bring them back, they're both so great we should have a pep rally...
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Post by elvisjj on Nov 12, 2007 22:32:11 GMT -5
OK with that said. At least we now know a little bit more about you name, now i was name on tv.com, name234543, name4life, 4evername, huntsgirlname, etc. but....name kept getting banned. so to protect myself on tv.com , i took someone else's account ,DragnUp.
I believe everyone deserves a second chance to make amends for bad judgement and doing something wrong. It was wrong what you did as so much effort and hard work goes into trying to save a show. Every Save Kim Possible fan here knows that and I can't stop appreciating everyone here who's fighting for five and all the hard work they put into it. I mean I alone have contributed so much of my time, effort and money to try to save Kim Possible for not only myself, but for KP fans all around the world and here at this site. I'll get nothing out of it, no cheers, no prize, just the satisifaction of being able to tune in on Saturdays again and watch one of my favorite shows that are so worth saving Kim Possible.
So I understand how you feel name and you want to redeem yourself, well you've started down that path by acknowledging what you did and by trying to make amends for it. But this won't be easy and it won't happen right away. KP fans here, especially the Fight For Five is a tight family. We've been through a lot together and our unite is what makes us strong.
This alliance can happen and it could work for KP fans just as much as Dragon fans. As it's both a marketing tool for Disney, as what is Disney going to put on at 8:30 P.M. if they renew Kim Possible for a Season Five. Alright KP will definitely win it's time slot in the ratings, but what about 8:30 P.M.? Trust me Disney will definitely be looking at that time slot big time. As it's prime-time and if they put "the replacements" right after KP or any other animated series that is weak and doesn't have the following of KP or the loyal fans of American Dragon. Then Disney will lose in ratings and that's something Disney will take as a key note in not renewing Kim Possible.
As I said I know how Disney thinks in all aspects. So our KP and American Dragon alliance is more then just for comfort it's for a strategic plan to present to Disney as numbers and profit is what makes Disney renew shows. We already got the fan base, now we gotta convince Disney about the numbers and profit involved.
And name please check your e-mail and I've e-mailed you back.
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Post by name on Nov 13, 2007 14:14:08 GMT -5
yes, i got the email.
thank you for your enthusiasm, elvisjj.
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Post by ddd on Nov 13, 2007 16:33:54 GMT -5
Yeah, elvisjj is right. At this point it's not about we loving eachoter's shows, it's about we helping eachother to get blth our favorite shows back.
I'm game to work a fair trade here. Sounds like this could help bolth our causes alot if we know how to work it well.
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Post by name on Nov 13, 2007 16:47:38 GMT -5
i WANT to save both shows.
amdrag more obviously, but adjl and kp go hand in hand.
they should both be saved.
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Post by elvisjj on Nov 13, 2007 23:40:17 GMT -5
And as I said a deal could be worked out. Seeing so far KP fans fighting for five back this deal in principal.
So now it's a matter of working out the details as ddd puts it and then it's fight time. --ding-ding--the bells been rung.
And name when you post here again, post the place and time for a live talk. I know you mentioned like Tuesday November 20 at 7:00 P.M. central, was it at Save Disney Shows forum?
Then as many KP fans that can, can talk about it there and I'll try to be there as well. Meanwhile we can continue on the talk and prepare for what could happen real soon.
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Nov 14, 2007 11:27:00 GMT -5
Firstly, welcome to any ADJL fans that are joining us.
This sitch is getting bigger than KP or ADJL, this isnt just about getting our favourite shows renewed, this is about the fans. Not just KP and ADJL fans, but fans in general. We are fighting for fans. So that future fans will be respected. So that there wont have to be future fights. To save KP and ADJL is why this alliance is forming, but for the future of fans is why it will carry on. Fan rights is the big underlying problem with both fights, how our trust and support is being abused. Ignoring us is abuse. Toying with us is abuse. I dont know about the rest of you, but I am tired of being abused, I am tired of my rights being abused and I am tired of all of your trust, including mine, being abused.
It is sad that Disney is making a habit out of producing great shows like KP and ADJL, build up a huge and devout following, only to throw it all away. It is sad that Disney is making a habit out of abusing our trust and support. It is just sad.
I am KPCrusader and I am fighting for Kim Possible! I am KPCrusader and I am fighting for American Dragon Jake Long! I am KPCrusader and I am fighting for this alliance! I am KPCrusader and I am FIGHTING!
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Post by Darth_Comrade on Nov 14, 2007 11:30:28 GMT -5
Right on, comrade! RIGHT ON! ;D
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Post by name on Nov 14, 2007 12:42:02 GMT -5
*pulls out huntstaff* IM FIGHTING TOO! DOWN WITH DISNEY!
anyways, more on the live rally, which is ACTUALLY next wednesday, when i hear back from savetheshows.
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