Post by elvisjj on Dec 10, 2007 1:05:49 GMT -5
Alright before starting. I suggest you bring a lunch or a snack as there's going to be a lot of reading to do here.
After much feedback on both the pros and the cons of our recent Kim Possible/American Dragon alliance this has emerged.
The new Kim Possible/American Dragon Fight For Five and Fight For Three. First the name, Disney Animation League as a name is gone. As the majority of you voted to can the name, so it's canned. The working title name is above. And it allows us here at THE FIGHT FOR FIVE to keep the name we started with, while creating a new name for Dragon fans alike.
It's time for us to rediscover our roots and what we all started here together as a family as a unit, as a powerful force Disney has been forced upon to reckon with. It's time once again to save Kim Possible and get a Season Five, to get KP boxset DVD's and KP merchandise. It's time FOR THE FIGHT FOR FIVE to become the FIGHT FOR FIVE again. So if there's no objections. The Fight For Five will remain our Official Name. This is the name everyone knows us as. This is the name Disney already knows and quite frankly hasn't admitted it, but they do loath and fear the name The Fight For Five cause it stands exactly for that. The media knows us by that name. Any change in that name would just weaken everything we've achieved so far together.
For the American Dragons it will be THE FIGHT FOR THREE. This clearly spells out what Dragon fans want. It's straight up and decisive. And together we will be Kim Possible/American Dragon Fight For Five and Three.
There will be two separate campaigns. The Fight For Five will remain and a new Fight For Three shall emerge. A new American Dragon Fight For Three website and forum has been created strictly for American Dragon fans. This is going to be the sister site of The Fight For Five, and all American Dragon fans will have an equal say as to how this site is operated. So far Name, myself, Phil, and Darth have been put as adminstrators, but that all can change, as I really don't care much to be an adminstrator.
fightforadjl.com/forum
We will have both separate KP fighting days and separate Dragon fighting days. And twice each month we shall have a united KP/Dragon day when we fight together for both our shows.
Below is the suggested Kim Possible and American Dragon days, again these days will be voted on by all KP and Dragon fans alike.
Save Kim Possible day will be every 7th of each month as that's when Kim Possible Premiered: June 7, 2002 and last Aired: September 7, 2007. This is a very special day for all of us KP fans and will always make sure Disney knows that.
Save American Dragon day will be every 1st of each month as American Dragon Premiered: January 21, 2005 and last Aired September 1, 2007.
Every 21st (is when American Dragon Premiered) and 29th (as the 29th of November is when Disney announced Season Four of Kim Possible) So every 21st and 29th will be solidarity days, this will be the days when we fight as one. When Kim Possible and American Dragon fans can help each other by showing their support for each others shows and fighting together.
The 21st and 29th will be voluntary for all KP fans who wish to lend their support to both causes. (The same will go for Dragon fans as KP fans in this situation.) No Kim Possible fan or American Dragon fan will be forced to fight for a show they don't believe in or support. This will again be a choice left up to each and everyone of you here.
To help the American Dragons and help ourselves with Kim Possible. Each KP fan must make up their own mind and follow their own hearts in supporting and helping out the American Dragons as the majority of Dragon fans are willing to help us out with Kim Possible.
I for one will be fighting with the American Dragons on their day and our day and on solidarity days. But that is me, each of you who have stuck with THE FIGHT FOR FIVE must make your choice on this matter.
I was wrong to try to force this issue. Even though I did it for the common good of both shows and for the success of Kim Possible getting a Season Five. I had no right to bring this onto any of you. I'm not your leader and I never will be. The only one I ever consider as a leader is Darth and Comrade Chin as they started all this. I just jumped aboard for the ride and found myself never getting off. Man how many stations have I missed so far?
Each of you here are the true fighters and the true supporters. Whether it be for Kim Possible or American Dragon, or for both Kim Possible and American Dragon. When the smokes clears and all of this is said and done. It is your names that will be remembered, your hard work and devotion that will never be forgotten. It is this what brings us together and makes us strong. Bickering, fighting, arguing amongst each other or even holding back your true feelings just because you don't wish to say it, is not how to run a campaign or a fight to save either show. And this all ends now, as we go forth with a new beginning.
Many of you were at the live chat, most weren't. I promised a fair argument here and that is what will be.
The new Kim Possible/American Dragon Fight For Five and Fight For Three has technically broken away from both Save Disney Shows and Save The Shows. We felt this was necessary to preserve what we all started here. To end the bickering and to form a new path that will allow us to get back to business as usual, without any fighting or arguing amongst each other. Will leave that up to the Walt Disney Company to do.
Greg who runs Save Disney Shows and Mike who runs Save The Shows have both been offered membership to our newly formed alliance. Just like you, they'll have one vote, one say in what happens. Neither Greg nor Mike will have adminstrative powers anymore with us here or with Fight For Five or Fight For Three.
Greg and Mike and everyone else have been offered the role of membership here to decide the future and direction of this alliance. And Greg, Mike and everyone else will get one vote, one say in what happens. Something we've been doing since we started the Fight For Five. Neither Greg, nor Mike have been booted out of this alliance, they've just been reduced to the same level as YOU AND I. And ME of course. Back to a one vote, per person say. If Greg and Mike and everyone else wishes to be part of this and agree to it, we welcome them back to the fold. But again it must be their choice to join here.
Which comes down to you. As this decision we've taken is both crucial and probably the biggest change we've done so far. You must make the choice. I will vote upon it, so will Darth, and Phil and Name, but you have an open say in this too. Each of you do.
Don't be shy to voice your opinion, in order to move on, we must say what must be said. Don't agree with this whole thing just because I do, my opinion is my own and that's that. Agree to it because you feel it's the right thing to do, or disagree cause you feel it's not.
But this will never ever become a dictatorship. You people here are family and you've each worked your butts off to make this happen. And you decide our FUTURE.
After much feedback on both the pros and the cons of our recent Kim Possible/American Dragon alliance this has emerged.
The new Kim Possible/American Dragon Fight For Five and Fight For Three. First the name, Disney Animation League as a name is gone. As the majority of you voted to can the name, so it's canned. The working title name is above. And it allows us here at THE FIGHT FOR FIVE to keep the name we started with, while creating a new name for Dragon fans alike.
It's time for us to rediscover our roots and what we all started here together as a family as a unit, as a powerful force Disney has been forced upon to reckon with. It's time once again to save Kim Possible and get a Season Five, to get KP boxset DVD's and KP merchandise. It's time FOR THE FIGHT FOR FIVE to become the FIGHT FOR FIVE again. So if there's no objections. The Fight For Five will remain our Official Name. This is the name everyone knows us as. This is the name Disney already knows and quite frankly hasn't admitted it, but they do loath and fear the name The Fight For Five cause it stands exactly for that. The media knows us by that name. Any change in that name would just weaken everything we've achieved so far together.
For the American Dragons it will be THE FIGHT FOR THREE. This clearly spells out what Dragon fans want. It's straight up and decisive. And together we will be Kim Possible/American Dragon Fight For Five and Three.
There will be two separate campaigns. The Fight For Five will remain and a new Fight For Three shall emerge. A new American Dragon Fight For Three website and forum has been created strictly for American Dragon fans. This is going to be the sister site of The Fight For Five, and all American Dragon fans will have an equal say as to how this site is operated. So far Name, myself, Phil, and Darth have been put as adminstrators, but that all can change, as I really don't care much to be an adminstrator.
fightforadjl.com/forum
We will have both separate KP fighting days and separate Dragon fighting days. And twice each month we shall have a united KP/Dragon day when we fight together for both our shows.
Below is the suggested Kim Possible and American Dragon days, again these days will be voted on by all KP and Dragon fans alike.
Save Kim Possible day will be every 7th of each month as that's when Kim Possible Premiered: June 7, 2002 and last Aired: September 7, 2007. This is a very special day for all of us KP fans and will always make sure Disney knows that.
Save American Dragon day will be every 1st of each month as American Dragon Premiered: January 21, 2005 and last Aired September 1, 2007.
Every 21st (is when American Dragon Premiered) and 29th (as the 29th of November is when Disney announced Season Four of Kim Possible) So every 21st and 29th will be solidarity days, this will be the days when we fight as one. When Kim Possible and American Dragon fans can help each other by showing their support for each others shows and fighting together.
The 21st and 29th will be voluntary for all KP fans who wish to lend their support to both causes. (The same will go for Dragon fans as KP fans in this situation.) No Kim Possible fan or American Dragon fan will be forced to fight for a show they don't believe in or support. This will again be a choice left up to each and everyone of you here.
To help the American Dragons and help ourselves with Kim Possible. Each KP fan must make up their own mind and follow their own hearts in supporting and helping out the American Dragons as the majority of Dragon fans are willing to help us out with Kim Possible.
I for one will be fighting with the American Dragons on their day and our day and on solidarity days. But that is me, each of you who have stuck with THE FIGHT FOR FIVE must make your choice on this matter.
I was wrong to try to force this issue. Even though I did it for the common good of both shows and for the success of Kim Possible getting a Season Five. I had no right to bring this onto any of you. I'm not your leader and I never will be. The only one I ever consider as a leader is Darth and Comrade Chin as they started all this. I just jumped aboard for the ride and found myself never getting off. Man how many stations have I missed so far?
Each of you here are the true fighters and the true supporters. Whether it be for Kim Possible or American Dragon, or for both Kim Possible and American Dragon. When the smokes clears and all of this is said and done. It is your names that will be remembered, your hard work and devotion that will never be forgotten. It is this what brings us together and makes us strong. Bickering, fighting, arguing amongst each other or even holding back your true feelings just because you don't wish to say it, is not how to run a campaign or a fight to save either show. And this all ends now, as we go forth with a new beginning.
Many of you were at the live chat, most weren't. I promised a fair argument here and that is what will be.
The new Kim Possible/American Dragon Fight For Five and Fight For Three has technically broken away from both Save Disney Shows and Save The Shows. We felt this was necessary to preserve what we all started here. To end the bickering and to form a new path that will allow us to get back to business as usual, without any fighting or arguing amongst each other. Will leave that up to the Walt Disney Company to do.
Greg who runs Save Disney Shows and Mike who runs Save The Shows have both been offered membership to our newly formed alliance. Just like you, they'll have one vote, one say in what happens. Neither Greg nor Mike will have adminstrative powers anymore with us here or with Fight For Five or Fight For Three.
Greg and Mike and everyone else have been offered the role of membership here to decide the future and direction of this alliance. And Greg, Mike and everyone else will get one vote, one say in what happens. Something we've been doing since we started the Fight For Five. Neither Greg, nor Mike have been booted out of this alliance, they've just been reduced to the same level as YOU AND I. And ME of course. Back to a one vote, per person say. If Greg and Mike and everyone else wishes to be part of this and agree to it, we welcome them back to the fold. But again it must be their choice to join here.
Which comes down to you. As this decision we've taken is both crucial and probably the biggest change we've done so far. You must make the choice. I will vote upon it, so will Darth, and Phil and Name, but you have an open say in this too. Each of you do.
Don't be shy to voice your opinion, in order to move on, we must say what must be said. Don't agree with this whole thing just because I do, my opinion is my own and that's that. Agree to it because you feel it's the right thing to do, or disagree cause you feel it's not.
But this will never ever become a dictatorship. You people here are family and you've each worked your butts off to make this happen. And you decide our FUTURE.