j1mbafr0sty
Yellow Trout
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Post by j1mbafr0sty on Feb 3, 2008 1:32:14 GMT -5
Wow never heard of the Annie awards b4! it's funny how Disney is a a bronze sponser, not even top of the list! I just find it odd :S and yes Annie is her middle name
Kimberly An Possible
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Post by mrpotty on Feb 3, 2008 17:12:59 GMT -5
Two points to clarify, the person who voices Jake is in a hip hop group with his brothers, the writers/producers wanted him to incorporate that part of him, and secondly most of the poor comedy and other story development isn't because of the show, it's because of Disney. There has been no two part episodes in ADJL, but there were many episodes planned to be two parters, and many plots and twists about the characters were cut because Disney held it to the same standards as it's kid type sitcom, which is the reason why it aims for the younger people, the producers wanted to get a little more dark with it. Disney wanted the Jake producers/writers to water down the comedy and also the dramatic parts, the Jake you see is largely because of Disney. No offense, but why are you fighting for a series that wasn't allowed to be what it wanted to be, especially if you consider that if the show will be renewed, Disney won't change anything about it's watered and dumbed down concept. |
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j1mbafr0sty
Yellow Trout
Rap/R&B BeatMaker and Owner/Dsinger of Faze9ine Clothing
Posts: 129
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Post by j1mbafr0sty on Feb 3, 2008 17:27:38 GMT -5
so? its still week and degrading JUST cos your in a rap group dosen't mean anything. Hes still a white guy (probably from the burbs) that dosen't totaly get the culture and is still part of the moking and degrading of hip hop culture.
I'm trying not to sound gangster but i was raised in bad neighborhoods got into the culture knew and learned what it was about.
Its sad that theirs so much hip hop everywhere now that even black people are selling out their own culture. Jake dose that and you might not see it cos it could be something you dont totaly understand.
Point is the show is crap and you just basicly admited it too
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Post by Comrade_Chin on Feb 3, 2008 19:45:55 GMT -5
Hmmm so when will this Annie award thing is gonna be televised??
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Post by mrpotty on Feb 4, 2008 6:02:25 GMT -5
Hmmm so when will this Annie award thing is gonna be televised?? It's on friday and will unfortunately not be televised. |
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Post by jamesburningstorm on Feb 4, 2008 11:49:34 GMT -5
im looking forward to hearing the results ;
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Post by eddybob15 on Feb 4, 2008 14:29:42 GMT -5
im looking forward to hearing the results ; So am I. If KP wins, it will greatly fuel our cause. |
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Post by tidus on Feb 4, 2008 17:29:22 GMT -5
so? its still week and degrading JUST cos your in a rap group dosen't mean anything. Hes still a white guy (probably from the burbs) that dosen't totaly get the culture and is still part of the moking and degrading of hip hop culture. I'm trying not to sound gangster but i was raised in bad neighborhoods got into the culture knew and learned what it was about. Its sad that theirs so much hip hop everywhere now that even black people are selling out their own culture. Jake dose that and you might not see it cos it could be something you dont totaly understand. Point is the show is crap and you just basicly admited it too Couldn't you regard Ron as sometimes being somewhat hiphopish, like the naked mole rap, or just some of his tendencies, granted its not constant and obvious but it is there, I'm not bashing KP or Ron Stoppable I am however just saying what I think is true if you were to look at the character Ron in some sort of depth. Dante Basco is Filipino, not white, and you are totally jumping to many conclusions and have no way in proving that what you're saying is indeed whats happening, you're just assuming that hes mocking hip hop, and assuming I know nothing about this, and you were totally playing the race card which you got wrong. and no i didn't say the show was crap, I'm just saying that shows don't have to be like KP in order to be good, and that KP's a good show in its genre and ADJL is a good show in its genre. Also I did/am agreeing with you in not mentioning ADJL see point below I was just correcting two misconceptions you had about ADJL, so that what you said wouldn't be regarded as fact but instead just one member's opinion, and towards the end I just added to my opinion which I already stated in another post but did not feel like editing the post in which my opinion was in. |
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Post by tidus on Feb 4, 2008 17:39:10 GMT -5
Two points to clarify, the person who voices Jake is in a hip hop group with his brothers, the writers/producers wanted him to incorporate that part of him, and secondly most of the poor comedy and other story development isn't because of the show, it's because of Disney. There has been no two part episodes in ADJL, but there were many episodes planned to be two parters, and many plots and twists about the characters were cut because Disney held it to the same standards as it's kid type sitcom, which is the reason why it aims for the younger people, the producers wanted to get a little more dark with it. Disney wanted the Jake producers/writers to water down the comedy and also the dramatic parts, the Jake you see is largely because of Disney. No offense, but why are you fighting for a series that wasn't allowed to be what it wanted to be, especially if you consider that if the show will be renewed, Disney won't change anything about it's watered and dumbed down concept. I said that it wasn't done the way the producers wanted it to be, but I didn't say it was bad, what did happen is still good and I still like it. And for your information I know that if Disney renews it, they are still going to keep it that way, but I still like what is produced and I want to see more of it, hell it didn't even get 65 episodes, its good enough to get 65, and I'd be content on it hitting that number, although a full season of 22 would be better, it's wierd that after we got KP its fourth season, Disney has stopped quality shows before the 65 episode limit like Phil of the Future and ADJL. I feel that maybe once, we the fighters of ADJL realize that they/we can't lean on someone else to do the dirty work and do it for themselves/ourselves, which is what they/we are doing right now, I was a member here before this whole thing started so I'm not just another Jake fan, I love KP thats why I came, I just love Jake Long too. And thats how I always pictured an alliance has I have said before where fans of both shows who maybe didn't know about either fight would then join in on both fights, not about seeing another groups will and whatever other qualities that the people here when the alliance first was mentioned thought existed, but just that a fan who liked both KP and ADJL would be able to fight for both. And another thing I've said before is that the movement for Jake didn't start here and didn't build momentum here, I personally think it's lost momentum, it started somewhere else and that if the Jake fans realized this and stopped going to a KP focused forum for help and to one that already existed to help them. Also so that it wouldn't boost some egos, some of the RS members when they heard about this idea in November said that the movement is failing and that they would make it a sucess, and secondly to keep both fandoms happy, similar to FFX's "let the Guado deal with Guado problems" or "let the Ronso deal with the Ronso problems", KP should concern itself on KP and Jake should deal with Jake. |
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j1mbafr0sty
Yellow Trout
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Post by j1mbafr0sty on Feb 5, 2008 12:03:40 GMT -5
K so hes not white I was wrong on that. fact still remains that it degrading and hes a part of the problem. like i said hip hop is EVERYWHERE and its not a good wya either. Most people wont see it or get it or understand cos well they are not part of that, which is ok. I dont get Jewish people and what they do and why they do it and im not gonna judge unless i understand most of that culture.
You can't deny the fact that it is degrading. NOT as bad alot of the rap music out now and what some of these people are doing but its getting at young minds. We dont need a whole bunch of people wanting to be gangstas or claim their ghetto and all that when they live in the burbs.
I dont claim ima jew and put windex on everything do i?
you see it or u dont
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Post by tidus on Feb 6, 2008 16:05:09 GMT -5
I'm going to ask that we now go back to the regulary scheduled idea of the topic seeing has now all that is happening is bashing of a show into which I do not want to further discuss, debate or, object to in fear of starting a flame war. I call a truce brotha, for all of our sakes.
And if you're not down with that then I've got just two words for ya. Calm down!
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Post by Comrade_Chin on Feb 6, 2008 20:59:55 GMT -5
im looking forward to hearing the results ; So am I. If KP wins, it will greatly fuel our cause. Well its time to see how truly popular KP is But Im Sure The Results Will Be Satisfying |
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Post by binski on Feb 19, 2008 11:37:39 GMT -5
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Post by Nutzkie on Feb 19, 2008 11:49:47 GMT -5
He's not exactly helping his point, only bringing more people to hear about the FFF, which is awesome. It's like he's just doing advertising for us. ;D As P. T. Barnum once said: "There's no such thing as bad publicity." |
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Post by eddybob15 on Feb 19, 2008 12:58:09 GMT -5
I think that guy's info needs updating. KP has gone way over the 65 episode limit, still, having our cause mentioned doesn't hurt.
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Post by Darth_Comrade on Feb 19, 2008 13:11:30 GMT -5
I think that guy's info needs updating. KP has gone way over the 65 episode limit, still, having our cause mentioned doesn't hurt. Yeah, the same thoughts came to my mind when I read the article.  |
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Post by elvisjj on Feb 20, 2008 1:05:03 GMT -5
At least David Hinckley of the New York Daily News mentioned Kim Possible. That's at least some expose, not a whole article, but every little bit helps.
I think we should contact Mr. Hinckley and just update some facts for him, actually I will do that tomorrow, tonight I'm jet lacked, so I'm off to bed, but I'm back and the media coming back as well.
We all need to concentrate on writing the media on a constant basis, the media contact is listed at E-mailing the Media post and at the Fight For Five posting on page 216 of the Fight For Five.
We need everyones help out there to get continuous publicity for Kim Possible, as publicity is what will win us our fight.
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