Aero Tendo
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Post by Aero Tendo on Aug 19, 2008 12:37:30 GMT -5
Why do you suppose that Bonnie's sisters were so RUDE to both Bonnie and Kim, who was a guest when Bonnie's mother was so nice? Did they get it from the father you suppose? I saw a picture of 'sisterly love' by Destikim that made me wonder... destikim.deviantart.com/art/Sister-Love-2-90995683Does anyone else have these kind of problems with their siblings being able to get away with practically grand larceny while the parent thinks they're angels?
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Post by RadiantBeam on Aug 19, 2008 14:14:13 GMT -5
Really, kids are a reflection of their parents; the older child more so than the younger half the time, since the older child is usually the 'first try' kid and such. More than likely Bonnie's sisters were shaped by their parents and how they were raised, and since Bonnie's the youngest she got stuck with her parents' expectations of being like her sisters.
Being that I'm the oldest (My sister is two years younger than me), I can't say I have a bad relationship with my sister. We argue sometimes, but most of the time we get along just fine. Plus, she knows if she ticks me off I won't give her rides anywhere in my car.
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Aero Tendo
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Post by Aero Tendo on Aug 19, 2008 15:32:22 GMT -5
Parents probably see their 'first' attempt as perfect too.
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Post by manofevil on Aug 19, 2008 17:53:29 GMT -5
Bonnie really doesn't have that much to look forward to, does she?. Her sisters are some years older than her, but their exactly the same. Their petty, spiteful, lazy, self-absorbed, and not exceptionally bright. Also their well past high school and they still live at home. I'd be very surprised if they even attend college. Their parents can look forward to long years of paying their bills and enduring their... enduring them. Bonnie's parents got way lucky when Bonnie landed SSJ. That's one less mouth they'll have to feed. I'd almost go so far as to say that if Bonnie is the anti-Kim, then Bonnie's family is the anti- Kim's family- except that we have no idea what Bonnie's father is like and her mother struck me as being rather decent.
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Post by Alexlayer on Aug 19, 2008 18:20:02 GMT -5
In my opinion, I see Bonnie's family's case, in regard of the children, as very competitive ones. What Connie and Lonnie do with Bonnie is throw her down so they can feel superior themselves. It's something I'm kinda used to, as the victim in this case. In my case, I can't say I have a really good relationship with my brother.
Now, I don't think the case of similarity to their parents applies here. We can't say anything about Bonnie's father because he never appeared. But it's pretty clear that their mother "ideolizes" her daughters to the point of believing they would never do anything wrong.
Another possibilty regarding the treatment of Bonnie's sister towards the younger child could possibly be jealosy. Maybe because they parents gave Bonnie too much attention when Bonnie was born, driving away the attention from the older sibblings, or maybe even now, Bonnie's parents still see her as the baby of the family and Connie and Lonnie think she's treated as the favourite.
In the end, I think Bonnie's attitude is just her desire to excel too. Because of her sisters, she grew up in a ambient she had to fight to prove herself against two older sister that were always treating her as if she was nothing, to the point of telling such things to her friends (like Kim, or at least so they thought during Bonding).
And well, that's my two cents.
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Aero Tendo
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Post by Aero Tendo on Aug 19, 2008 20:36:40 GMT -5
Bonnie really doesn't have that much to look forward to, does she?. Her sisters are some years older than her, but their exactly the same. Their petty, spiteful, lazy, self-absorbed, and not exceptionally bright. Also their well past high school and they still live at home. I'd be very surprised if they even attend college. Their parents can look forward to long years of paying their bills and enduring their... enduring them. Bonnie's parents got way lucky when Bonnie landed SSJ. That's one less mouth they'll have to feed. I'd almost go so far as to say that if Bonnie is the anti-Kim, then Bonnie's family is the anti- Kim's family- except that we have no idea what Bonnie's father is like and her mother struck me as being rather decent. I can imagine that Bonnie's sisters were just visiting at the time Kim and Bonnie were at Bonnie's house. Still, you seem to have gotten their number pretty good. Calling Bonnie's family the Anti-Kim family seems like it might be on the mean side unless all mothers in the KP universe are just 'nice' with Bonnie's father like a mean Mr. Dr. P.
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Post by manofevil on Aug 19, 2008 21:37:15 GMT -5
I'm afraid you've got a very wrong impression of Bonnie, Alexlayer. She has no desire to excel. At least not any more. Her entire life in high school has been about advancing her social status. We've no idea how she stands academicly, but it's clear her social standing is her top priority. Everything else was a tool to advance that standing. Her ballet skills included. I'll remind you of her attitude towards college as well. That's why I think her sisters never went. That attitude had to come from somewhere. Her union with SSJ is undoubtedly the greatest thing in her life to date. Now she doesn't need to adapt to the rest of the world. She can spend the rest of her life doing all the things she lives for. Parties, spa treatments, fashion shows, movie premiers- everyplace people see and are seen. She Paris Hilton in waiting. She's about to get her face splashed on every social publication in Europe. I'd look to her to become part of the Seniors criminal efforts. Nothing gets gossip columnists talking like scandal. If her sisters are anything like they presented themselves in 'Bonding', I'd look to them to try and bring their sister down. Maybe even try to steal Jr. away from her. Truthfully, that would be a pretty cool underlying storyline for a season 5.
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Aero Tendo
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Post by Aero Tendo on Aug 19, 2008 21:49:17 GMT -5
If Bonnie's sisters tried to take Jr. away from her... I can imagine Bonnie would do the one thing she'd never do. Hire Shego to scare her sisters OR ask Kim and Ron for help. Personally I don't see how Mr. B could have kept Bonnie back for a single test because she was wearing gold at graduation and that says "I had a high GPA" to me. People with a high enough gpa should be able to blow off a week of HS because as Bonnie said, "Nothing important happens in the final week of school" and should be true. Last week is essentially Senior Party Time.
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Post by Alexlayer on Aug 19, 2008 22:29:37 GMT -5
I'm afraid you've got a very wrong impression of Bonnie, Alexlayer. She has no desire to excel. My mistake on the use of words there, but I basically meant what you said. She fights to keep a high social status, to stand above others, by doing things like dating jocks, having every beauty-treatment she can afford, and things like that. But in the end, the cause is what I was trying to say. She does all that to convince herself she is important, that she's somebody. While her sisters clearly like to make her feel like a completely nobody.
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Post by Justyh- Pic is the reality guy on Aug 20, 2008 12:44:34 GMT -5
I am a only child, but- I am like my father.
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Post by RadiantBeam on Aug 20, 2008 14:08:12 GMT -5
More than likely Bonnie's determination to prove that she is somebody stems from the treatment she recieves from her sisters. Sad to say my mother is also the youngest of three sisters, and while my Aunt Jonnie is very kind to her (She's the oldest) my Aunt Debbie swipes at her all the time (She's the middle child).
Assuming Bonnie's family had their kids one at a time, it's safe to guess either Lonnie or Connie is the middle child and therefore suffering from the 'middle child syndrome' that sometimes occurs in families with three kids. However, if they're twins, their treatment of Bonnie could be born from their own bond as sisters. She's probably viewed as the outsider, in any case.
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Aero Tendo
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Post by Aero Tendo on Aug 21, 2008 15:18:37 GMT -5
More than likely Bonnie's determination to prove that she is somebody stems from the treatment she recieves from her sisters. Sad to say my mother is also the youngest of three sisters, and while my Aunt Jonnie is very kind to her (She's the oldest) my Aunt Debbie swipes at her all the time (She's the middle child). Assuming Bonnie's family had their kids one at a time, it's safe to guess either Lonnie or Connie is the middle child and therefore suffering from the 'middle child syndrome' that sometimes occurs in families with three kids. However, if they're twins, their treatment of Bonnie could be born from their own bond as sisters. She's probably viewed as the outsider, in any case. Sad to see 3 sisters fighting isn't it? Shouldn't they have that special bond? Still, given that Bonnie's sisters are so much older than her it makes sense that she would be viewed as an outsider in her own home or possibly even family. If Connie and Lonnie (Does the mother like the 'onnie' thing or what?) were twins or at least of very close age that would explain their bond. I wonder if they view Bonnie as an 'accident' with the huge gap that is between them. I still don't think it'd be any reason for such treatment but unfortunately it happens I guess. What do you all think?
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Post by lonestarr357 on Aug 30, 2008 22:04:26 GMT -5
Honestly, why are Connie and Lonnie being treated as three-dimensional characters when they are very much not?
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Post by Donne on Aug 30, 2008 22:17:12 GMT -5
Honestly, why are Connie and Lonnie being treated as three-dimensional characters when they are very much not? Because their very existence adds another dimension to Bonnie herself. If their motives are explained, perhaps, in part, hers would be, too.
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