Just made a poll and thought I'd ask if you guys thought Drakken and Shego were over exposed or not?
Now don't get me wrong, I think Drakken and Shego are good-great characters. But there were times I felt we saw way too much of them.
Much like how The Simpsons made Homer Simpson the center point in their later years. As much as I love Homer there's only so much you can do with him before it becomes the same thing we've seen a million times. I felt the same way about Drakken & Shego.
At times I felt Drakken was slowly becoming a parody of himself (like majority of season 2), and the more times Kim kicked Shego's butt the less threatening I thought she was. KP could've used more quality reoccurring villains, cause besides Drakken and Shego, the only villains that could carry an entire episode by themselves were The Seniors and Monkey Fist. Of course this is just my opinion.
What do you guys think. Do you think Drakken and Shego suffered from too much exposure?
Not really, at this point, giving them less airtime would be a mistake. They have become the most popular characters and clearly the series main antagonists. Many fans like them better than Kim and Ron.
Drakken becoming more funny just added to his charm, in my opinion. A villain with the heart of granny is surely something genuine and quite likable. And with Shego, it doesn't matter if she doesn't seem so much of a threat anymore, she is still one of the coolest characters, as I know many would agree, and like with most things of the show, it's her interaction with other characters, mainly Kim and Drakken, what makes her popular.
So like hell they suffered from much exposure. I'm okay as it was, but I bet there's those who'd like even more.
most popular characters? Show me this "proof" that they were the most popular characters, I find that to be a highly overglorified opinion; than an actual fact with evidence to back it up.
Yes they are the series main antagonists but over saturation can kill anyone. (see my Homer Simpson comparison from above) Drakken's incompetence as a joke was something I felt the writers fell back on too many times IMO, personally I preferred the mad scientist who despite his odd quirkiness is actually brilliant in his own way over the quirky mad scientist whose buffoonish mannerisms lead him to screw up (not that there's anything wrong with that once in a while).
Yes, Shego's interactions with the rest of the characters are great, but there are times where you could copy and paste what way Shego would react around certain characters that it would become predictable. And you never want characters to become merely predictable.
I voted yes. Drakken and Shego are among my favorite characters and I just loved almost every episode with them in it...but after a while, there's the risk of getting too predictable: the typical already-seen-a-million-times thing.
I still love them to bits and I like having them as the main antagonists of the series: they are funny, they have great personality and I love their interaction. But on the other hand I wouldn't have minded if some more screen time was given to other villains too: KP has plenty of awesome characters in my opinion, and I would have rather had some more good episodes starring them rather than the millionth (and occasionally lousy: "Cap'n Drakken", anyone?) episode starring just the two of them as villains.
yeah, they really were. Much like Ron... Drak and Shego really became the writers whipping boy for everything they wanted to do that didn't directly dwell on Kim. Fortunately, this didn't make them QUITE as schizophrenic as Ron was later in the series... but still, several of their episodes could have been farmed out to other villains without a problem to give the show a lil variety.
Like pengy, I would have traded a few of the more awful season 4 episodes for something else, maybe more of the "Motor Ed Vs. Felix" stuff or another DNAmy episode, Duff Killigan was actually around as often as Daskken early in the show... maybe go back to him... or perhaps even the oft-asked-for evil Kim.
Last Edit: Oct 12, 2008 12:52:51 GMT -5 by eoraptor
Overexposed? No, absolulty not! Well, maybe a little.
Any problem wasn't with the characters, they were awesome though all four seasons. Always worth watching, which was good because they were having to hold together some dodgy plots. There's no doubt in my mind Drakken's greatest moments were in season one. It was a rare episode when had a credible plot to work with later on.
I do wish he had managed to go out with a bang in season four. I figured the audience needed a reminder that Dr Drakken is the most dangerous man on earth before the Invasion finale. Clean Slate should have been his grandest moment, where he regained the evil spectre of season one and once again proved himself a credible threat.
And it was a brilliant plot. Possibly the most cunning any KP villain has ever devised. It almost overshadows the Diablos in my mind. The dude came so close! But then there was the bypass mistake and things started blowing up.
After that defeat and how badly he fared in the rest of season four it was clearly time to hang up the blue lab coat.
I dont know. I didnt felt like that when I was watching the episodes. Drakken and Shego are much on the screen and yeah there are other villains aswell but in the end I think the others had enough time aswell. Shego and Drakken vs Kim and Ron were always great to watch and them were always good episodes by my mind. Ok maybe Shego lost a bit too many times but Kim had her moments aswell when she was captured and "beaten" aswell.
Ok in some cases there would been more episodes with other villains but how many of the villains could have been used over and over again? I just dont find too many of them to be used all over again due to them charasteristics or goals or the serie could have been a bit messy. It would have meant MUCH more epics offcourse or replacing some of the other ones and by my mind the result in the end wouldnt been as good as it was.
Offcourse we can say If there would have been "slips" that Kim has met some of the villains even before but then in the other hand it wouldnt been so great as we wouldnt have any kind of clue for those meetings. New villains could been a possibility but its kinda good that the serie was running in small circles.
Post by byronlomax on Oct 17, 2008 17:51:41 GMT -5
I voted yes, even though like everyone else here I loved Drakken and Shego. The Seniors got more episodes in the first season than any that came afterwards - I wished they could have shown up more frequently in seasons three and four.
A little bit, but I don't think they were "over exposed" by the series' end. Perhaps if we had gotten another season, they would have been.
They did parody themselves in that respect, though.
"The usual- I attack, she fights?" "Mmm... Have we gotten that predictable?"
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How about giving us an example instead of being just broad with "stupid pointless villains".
Drakken's over exposure made the scripts feel homogenized (along with Disney's ridiculous input) from season 2 onward. Seriously you could put in a different villain (or *gasp* create a new one to *gasp* keep the show and Drakken fresh) other than Drakken in episodes like Car Trouble, Job Unfair, The Golden Years, Ron Millionaire (whilst still great), and Showdown At The Crooked D. Episodes like the ones I posted above could've easily been done with any other villain, besides him.
"stupid pointless villains" here we go but I kinda have to agree with some of them. I dont know who Jessica!¢¾! is keeping as pointless so cant say more but there are a few by my mind aswell.
Then in the other hand I have to agree with you,Cadmus. There really could have been even more new villains and in some epics some of the villains could been left out but even when I dont have nothing against them I keep some of them "pointless" like Malcolm at Everlot and Nanny Nane. Sometimes there are even a few others but those epics still goes for me and overally I just love the serie.
For this we get up to the another problem what would have possibly meant more episodes and for some villains you just wouldnt had got such a good/deep look as we got example for Drakken and Shego!
Also by my mind at every heroes vs villains serie like this time in Kim Possible there just simply has to be a main villain or main villains and in KP its Drakken and Shego even when in the end we see a new even powerful force to come. If everyone would be equal I just dont see it working out too well. Also at KP,Shego and Drakken are simply the best choice to carry the job as main villains.
but in the end thats only my view in this case....