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Post by fireandchutes77 on Mar 2, 2009 15:35:34 GMT -5
Right, um..... Everlast's "What It's Like" meets.... "Kim Possible." Sure. Because the first thing you think of when listening to a song about catastrophic urban decay is a cheery Disney show.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=09jiZtTAgzk&feature=channel_page[youtube] www.youtube.com/watch?v=09jiZtTAgzk&feature=channel_page[/youtube] I don't know why they just don't have an arrangement like they do with my "No Handlebars" video - the video is allowed to play, with side-ads and a link to iTunes to download the song. Seems like a win-win for everybody that way. We get our videos up, the bands get exposure and money. About a quarter of my iTunes is made up of songs that I heard in people's AMVs and then rushed out to get off iTunes. If it wasn't for the free preview on YouTube, Apple would be several dollars poorer. Meh. "What It's Like" by Everlast "Lose Yourself" by Eminem "Kim Possible" (C) Disney My backstory for Mr. Barkin: I came up with this theory for " Osama's Last Stand," and it became even more probable after I heard his PTSD ramblings in "Fashion Victim." Barkin was not your standard grunt. Instead, he was really part of a special reconnaissance team, known as SOG, designed to go deep into enemy territory and/or over the border into Laos or Cambodia to report on the actions of the Viet-Cong. As a small, elite group of commandos, SOG members were all pretty high up the chain of command - hence the reason Barkin, a lieutenant, had to forage for food in "Two to Tutor;" there wasn't enough manpower to fork the task over to some buck PFC. In 1969, Barkin and his team were airdropped into Cambodia for a recon/search & destroy mission. Unfortunately, the PAVN had overcome their shock and rout of 1968 and developed a system for dealing with these intruders, and Barkin's team was picked apart by booby traps and snipers within a week. Barkin, one of the last survivors, was captured by VC while finding firewood and tortured. Upon his eventual return to the States, he had to panhandle for a while until the country's attitudes adjusted and Barkin managed to snag a low-paying teaching post at a Midwestern high school in the town of Middleton. I chose the name "Vise" for several reasons: One, "What It's Like" seemed too formulaic; Two, a vise could stand as a metaphor for the crushing squeeze of urban crime and poverty ; and Three, it's a homonym for vice, which is a synonym for sin, though I think both terms paint too broad a brush over the extraordinarily complex web of human behavior. I can't exactly say enjoy, but please review! |
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 2, 2009 17:18:05 GMT -5
Downloading now! And might I add that I always loved this song, classic stuff. Amazing that the same man who sang the 90's gem, "Jump Around", also wrote this.
Also, fireand'chutes; if you dispute the claim (or resolve copyright), the video will come back up. I can't say if it will stay up. But it's better than nothing.
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Mar 2, 2009 18:00:31 GMT -5
Also, fireand'chutes; if you dispute the claim (or resolve copyright), the video will come back up. I can't say if it will stay up. But it's better than nothing. How? How in the world am I going to find a leg to stand on? I can't see how I really can dispute it; it's (a) Not "completely of my original creation" (b) My use is "infringing copyright " because, well, they pulled it and (c) I'm not "actually licensed by the owner to use this content." I'm afraid to make a dispute, because "submitting an invalid dispute could result in penalties against your account." How have you been getting away with it? |
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 2, 2009 18:52:26 GMT -5
Also, fireand'chutes; if you dispute the claim (or resolve copyright), the video will come back up. I can't say if it will stay up. But it's better than nothing. How? How in the world am I going to find a leg to stand on? I can't see how I really can dispute it; it's (a) Not "completely of my original creation" (b) My use is "infringing copyright " because, well, they pulled it and (c) I'm not "actually licensed by the owner to use this content." I'm afraid to make a dispute, because "submitting an invalid dispute could result in penalties against your account." How have you been getting away with it? That penalites thing is a big fat bluff! The worst they've done is completely remove the video, to which you just post it again on your backup account (i.e, if you don't have one, GET one!  ). And trust me, I've disputed ten to twenty of mine at one point or another, and quite a few have stayed up.  I personally don't think YouTube is what WMG is losing money over. They should be cracking down on free mp3 sites, where people actually DOWNLOAD their music without paying. But if anything, they're doing this to gain money, not because "they care about the rights of their artists". Rubbish! You have very little to worry about. This company is just bullying people into not using their music. Ignore it. |
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Mar 2, 2009 19:43:43 GMT -5
That penalties thing is a big fat bluff! The worst they've done is completely remove the video, to which you just post it again on your backup account (i.e, if you don't have one, GET one! ). All right, I'm at the dispute screen. What reason should I select? I thought it was against TOS to have more than one account...  |
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 2, 2009 20:42:23 GMT -5
That penalties thing is a big fat bluff! The worst they've done is completely remove the video, to which you just post it again on your backup account (i.e, if you don't have one, GET one! ). All right, I'm at the dispute screen. What reason should I select? I thought it was against TOS to have more than one account... On the same email address... *Barbossa voice* Think of YouTube rules just as... guidelines.  Choose the second option. Politely explain that the video was not intended for profit or misuse. It works! |
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Mar 2, 2009 20:56:09 GMT -5
Thanks, done.  EDIT: Yay! It's up! |
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 2, 2009 21:05:29 GMT -5
Thanks, done. EDIT: Yay! It's up! \ You're most welcome. Watching it now! I'll give my review as soon as I'm done (MediaFire wouldn't work for me; internet speed). Edit: Your most inspired video yet! I adored it! ;D |
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Post by mtkau on Mar 3, 2009 3:33:06 GMT -5
call me completely shallow, but ms possible looks totally hot at 1:17.
And now having watched the full video, totally awesome. It fits so well D:
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 4, 2009 21:19:00 GMT -5
Do you have a downloadable version of the video? |
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Mar 5, 2009 16:03:42 GMT -5
Do you have a downloadable version of the video? Yep. www.mediafire.com/?xognvxj1jmmIt's 80 MB, so it might take some time to download. (And, whew... I saw your name in the "last post" section and thought I was about to get both barrels because of the abortion bit) |
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 11, 2009 10:31:19 GMT -5
(And, whew... I saw your name in the "last post" section and thought I was about to get both barrels because of the abortion bit)   Of course, I don't think any of the pro-lifers I know (including myself) would be condemning the girl like that, even if we do think what she's doing is wrong. I could point to the fact that pro-lifers have things like post-abortion counseling, that many women who have had abortions later regret it and become pro-life, and so on ... but I digress. On the topic of the video itself, you've again done an excellent job matching clips with lyrics. I especially love the connection of "an honest man lie" with the Centurion Project, and using Kim's "weighing" Drakken and Nachos in "Bueno Nacho" for the "good side of back/downside of up" part. And apparently Gill worked for the Viet Cong. Not to mention that the kid of Kim and Ron (both Caucasian) looks Asian. (You could have made Yori the wife if you wanted to play to the "Yori and Ron conceived Hana during Exchange" crowd. ) Anyway, excellent job as always, 'chutes!  |
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Mar 11, 2009 18:42:15 GMT -5
Goodness..... What *is* that? Thanks! The "weighing" bit was a quick off-the-cuff filler thing I thought I'd try to see how it looked, nothing too permanent... but it matched really well, so I kept it there. Err, yeah.  I tried a color change effect to make Gill's hands more human-colored and Barkin's clothes olive drab, but that didn't look too good, so I just punted and made everything black and white. ;D  I'm working with what I got here! Errrr....?  |
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 11, 2009 19:59:03 GMT -5
Goodness..... What *is* that? I'm not sure. Some double-barrelled cannon, I think. (There was at least one experimental 2-barrelled cannon made during the Civil War... not sure if that's the one) I wanted a pic of a double-barrelled shotgun pointed at the viewer, but I couldn't find such a pic. Errrr....? [/quote] Well, a theory that's been going around since the first previews of "Big Bother" is that Ron and Yori went far beyond a kiss on the cheek before the former left Japan, and Hana is the result. The theory is usually proposed by anti-K/R and/or Kigo supporters, for some reason (JuPMod, who's both K/R and Ron/Yori, also brought it up, I think.) |
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Post by Dr. Feelgood on Mar 31, 2009 13:25:35 GMT -5
Man, I'm glad I watched this again. The first time I saw it I wasn't really paying attention, noticed a few clips that showed literally what the lyrics were describing, and wrote it off like yet another creative cop-out. I've seen quite a few flash animations that simply illustrate the lyrics, without adding anything at all, and they annoy me just a bit. My prejudice made me completely ignore what should have been obvious: The deeper story, or stories, and your skillful way of telling it/ them using source material that really shouldn't fit. Extra kudos for having Kim busting up Drugs-R-Us with the ghost of Ron in the background. ;D Also, the "I've seen a rich man beg"-sequence is a treat every time (mainly because it plays on the importance of the clips in the context of the series, which trumps my previously stated preference ). Excellent work! ;D ;D Well, a theory that's been going around since the first previews of "Big Bother" is that Ron and Yori went far beyond a kiss on the cheek before the former left Japan, and Hana is the result. Aha! I knew I weren't the only one! ;D I remember watching "Big Bother" and "Oh no, Yono!" in quick succession, going "Is this...?? This is about something else, isn't it???" A happy-go-lucky teenager crumbling under the weight of sudden parental responsibility? Yeah, I've seen it before. Hana is Ron and Yori's lovechild!! (And now, we wait for Slick......) |
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Mar 31, 2009 18:25:45 GMT -5
Thanks. I started this project thinking, "Pffft, this'll never work... I'll get eight or nine clips and then run out of stuff." Then, click, click, click, things started locking in. And they locked in well. Cue me with this expression:  What I found interesting was that I was able to complete almost the entire video using only the main characters - the "good guys." The traditional villains only play a periphery role. It was clearer to me while I was making it, but I tried to keep continuity - Max (Ron) is Max and Kim is Kim throughout, not just when they're needed to play that character. For example, the argument at 3:18 foreshadows the temper that got Max iced. Mary's (Bonnie's) section had the deepest facets to it, IMHO, and it produced the greatest mental tussle for me. Abortion is bad. But I tried to give her side to her decision - this is not a thing she took lightly. But at the same time, she's no saint - instead of defending her, my clips of "killer, sinner, whore" actually show her being such. I set her up, I take her down, I humanize her again. It's an odd thing to tangle with, these contradictions... Mary's angst, in turn, sparks a conversation of conflicted feelings in Kim and Max. - 1:54 - sorta personifies my instinctive reaction to her threat. XD Her anger's justified, but still... *wince.* - I was originally going to use a clip of Ron sniffing the vanilla smell from "Two to Tutor" at 3:00 ("...smoked the finest green..."), but I decided to use Kim, even though it throws off the logical string focusing on Ron. I found it had a greater visceral shock factor - you don't expect KP for a line like that - and it underlined, for me at least, that I wasn't letting anybody off the hook. Yay! Somebody noticed the work I put into that sucker! I couldn't think of another clip that showed her throwing a punch like that in her normal mission outfit - EDIT: Wait a minute. I just did. Fight in "Ron the Man" against Hench's goons. Hindsight's a sitch. I also didn't want to use any clips featuring Ron/Max, since he was supposed to be dead. I tried erasing Ron from the clip using chroma key, but that didn't work, so I grayed him out and went with the "ghost" angle. This video, like some of my others involving rock songs, kinda scared me, but this one especially so. Partly, it was that my mind was making these connections at all - Connecting a lovable cartoon character to drugs?! What kind of nutcase are you?! - but mostly it was the simple fact that I was able to make this video at all, and that it came out coherent and well-done. This whole AMV process, all this video editing and clip selecting, has opened my eyes to the power of the media, the power of a song, the power of suggestion. I'm able to take an exterior hospital shot from "The Fearless Ferret" and use it to imply an abortion facility. I'm able to make good guys into bad guys, bad guys into good guys, and dip the entire universe in a bucket full of shades of gray. I'm able to twist and warp the connotations, the circumstances, the truth.And if I'm able to do this with a simple TV show, what could people with a nationwide/worldwide audience and graphics professionals do? Am I implying some giant media conspiracy? I hope not. But I've realized the power they hold is incredible. I'd never thought about it from that angle. Are there any scenes I should be especially aware of, so I can be alert to the effect in the future?
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Post by Dr. Feelgood on Apr 1, 2009 6:39:12 GMT -5
Then, click, click, click, things started locking in. And they locked in well. Cue me with this expression: ;D I know, I love that feeling! Man, it's been too long since I made something.... (mumbles incoherently)Mary's (Bonnie's) section had the deepest facets to it, IMHO, and it produced the greatest mental tussle for me. Abortion is bad. But I tried to give her side to her decision - this is not a thing she took lightly. But at the same time, she's no saint - instead of defending her, my clips of "killer, sinner, whore" actually show her being such. I set her up, I take her down, I humanize her again. It's an odd thing to tangle with, these contradictions... Mary's angst, in turn, sparks a conversation of conflicted feelings in Kim and Max. I'm impressed! You've put some thought into this, and I like the reasoning behind your decisions! Thus, I have nothing to add but applause! ;D - I was originally going to use a clip of Ron sniffing the vanilla smell from "Two to Tutor" at 3:00 ("...smoked the finest green..."), but I decided to use Kim, even though it throws off the logical string focusing on Ron. I found it had a greater visceral shock factor - you don't expect KP for a line like that - and it underlined, for me at least, that I wasn't letting anybody off the hook. Yeah, that made me react a little, which I liked. "Kimmie! Nooo! Put down the ganja!!" This video, like some of my others involving rock songs, kinda scared me, but this one especially so. Partly, it was that my mind was making these connections at all - Connecting a lovable cartoon character to drugs?! What kind of nutcase are you?! - but mostly it was the simple fact that I was able to make this video at all, and that it came out coherent and well-done. This whole AMV process, all this video editing and clip selecting, has opened my eyes to the power of the media, the power of a song, the power of suggestion. I'm able to take an exterior hospital shot from "The Fearless Ferret" and use it to imply an abortion facility. I'm able to make good guys into bad guys, bad guys into good guys, and dip the entire universe in a bucket full of shades of gray. I'm able to twist and warp the connotations, the circumstances, the truth.And if I'm able to do this with a simple TV show, what could people with a nationwide/worldwide audience and graphics professionals do? Am I implying some giant media conspiracy? I hope not. But I've realized the power they hold is incredible. Well, that's the power of presentation and the flawed, subjective nature of perception for ya. That's what makes visual storytelling fun; our job as storytellers is to manipulate the perception, and, ultimately, the state of mind of the viewer. But it's also the reason I don't want to do non-fiction of any kind. The responsibility is too great, and at least some degree of misrepresentation is unavoidable. And it's why Michael Moore makes me gag a little... As for giant media conspiracy, well, that depends on what you choose to call conspiracy... It's not exactly a secret that political parties rely heavily on experts in rhetoric, or that nearly all the news in America, and most of the news worldwide, are controlled by 4 gigantic media corporations, with their respective political affiliations. Or were they reduced to 3? Hrmph, shouldn't have slept through that class... Etc. etc. etc., blah blah blah. Anyway, the music is ridiculously important. I highly recommend watching an intense horror- or action scene with the sound off, and "Walking on Sunshine" blasting. Or "Don't Stop Me Now". It's hilariously disturbing ;D (even moreso if the pacing fits)! I don't think you need to worry about your mental health, your mind is just mixing two things you really like and doesn't care that they're at odds with each other. Happens to me all the time. Although KP does seem to inspire a lot of gloomy fanfics, which is... interesting. Blame it on postmodernism, I guess... I'd never thought about it from that angle. Are there any scenes I should be especially aware of, so I can be alert to the effect in the future? Nah, the clips I reacted to work fine in their respective contexts, I just didn't see it the first time. No need to get too abstract; you'll just confuse people. It's really just something I try to be mindful of when figuring out my own stuff. I've more or less given up the notion that there are strict rules in filmmaking (though there are plenty of people that would tell you otherwise ). |
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Post by Muzzlehatch on Apr 1, 2009 20:01:04 GMT -5
Goodness..... What *is* that? I'm not sure. Some double-barrelled cannon, I think. (There was at least one experimental 2-barrelled cannon made during the Civil War... not sure if that's the one) I wanted a pic of a double-barrelled shotgun pointed at the viewer, but I couldn't find such a pic. Errrr....? Well, a theory that's been going around since the first previews of "Big Bother" is that Kimand Yori went far beyond a kiss on the cheek before the former left Japan, and Hana is the result. The theory is usually proposed by anti-K/R and/or Kigo supporters, for some reason (JuPMod, who's both K/R and Ron/Yori, also brought it up, I think.)[/quote] The cannon was designed to fire two cannonballs connected by a chain, the idea being that the chain would act like a scythe, mowing down the enemy like wheat. The problem was that there was no way to fire the balls at exactly the same time, so that on the first trial, the projectiles attained a kind of circular motion, tore up a cornfield, mowed down saplings, and when the chain broke, the balls flew in opposite directions, one killing a cow, and the other, knocking down a chimney from a log cabin. |
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Apr 2, 2009 0:19:09 GMT -5
Man, I'm glad I watched this again. The first time I saw it I wasn't really paying attention, noticed a few clips that showed literally what the lyrics were describing... I've seen quite a few flash animations that simply illustrate the lyrics... and they annoy me just a bit. Err, in that case, my "No Handlebars" AMV might nettle you a bit (though I tried to inject some originality into it).... Have you seen it yet? (And, yes, I know 1:44 is ironic - the lyrics describe "[splitting] the atoms of a molecule," but the clip is of Ron's cold Funky reaction, which, technically, fuses molecules together. Eh, it's still nuclear power, right? :  |
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Post by Dr. Feelgood on Apr 2, 2009 1:24:24 GMT -5
This again? Alright, I'll have a look.
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"This video is not available in your country." Odd. Oh well...
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). And trust me, I've disputed ten to twenty of mine at one point or another, and quite a few have stayed up. 
I tried a color change effect to make Gill's hands more human-colored and Barkin's clothes olive drab, but that didn't look too good, so I just punted and made everything black and white. ;D
