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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 17, 2009 21:33:35 GMT -5
You may have seen an earlier version of this picture already on the Misc. Shippy Thread. Well, here's the updated version (I just changed a little bit to Joss' skirt) for your viewing and critiquing pleasure! So, what do you think of it?
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 18, 2009 0:36:52 GMT -5
Pretty cute, though... considering they're cousins, the K/R postition honestly looks wierd and incest-ish.
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Post by hannah on Mar 18, 2009 11:52:18 GMT -5
"None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD." Leviticus 18:6.
he said it, not me.
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 18, 2009 16:02:29 GMT -5
"None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD." Leviticus 18:6. he said it, not me. But then He goes on to specify just what that means, and cousin is not classified as "near of kin"
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 18, 2009 16:33:50 GMT -5
"None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD." Leviticus 18:6. he said it, not me. But then He goes on to specify just what that means, and cousin is not classified as "near of kin" Still considered inbreeding and incest, bub. Social unacceptable and overall, gross.
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 18, 2009 16:45:18 GMT -5
Actually, it's legal in many states, as well as Japan, the Middle East and most of Europe.
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 18, 2009 16:59:12 GMT -5
Actually, it's legal in many states, as well as Japan, the Middle East and most of Europe. So? Inbreeding is the cause of many mental disabilites in the offspring, as well as being really wierd. To me, it has some real moral issues surrounding it, and I cannot begin to understand why Tim would like Joss that way. It's kinda like shipping Kim and Larry, just... ew!
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 18, 2009 17:12:51 GMT -5
So? Inbreeding is the cause of many mental disabilites in the offspring I'll just quote Wikipedia here: A study in Australia showed similar findings. I can see why Tim would like Joss that way. As for Kim and Larry, I think Kim would be grossed out about the idea even if they weren't related.
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 18, 2009 17:33:42 GMT -5
So? Inbreeding is the cause of many mental disabilites in the offspring I'll just quote Wikipedia here: A study in Australia showed similar findings. I can see why Tim would like Joss that way. As for Kim and Larry, I think Kim would be grossed out about the idea even if they weren't related. Regardless, this does cross the borders of icky and OOC, more than any Kigo or Rokken has. I'd rather hoped it was a joke, because I don't remember incest ever being smiled upon in recent years.
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 18, 2009 20:45:27 GMT -5
Incest is a widespread, virtually universally taboo, considered wrong in almost every culture, and yet cousin marriage has been practiced, even encouraged, in many of those same cultures.
So your contention that "cousin romance must be incest" fails the tests of history and time.
And it's not OOC. Given their personalities, I can see them being a couple (relation issue aside).
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 18, 2009 22:19:58 GMT -5
Incest is a widespread, virtually universally taboo, considered wrong in almost every culture, and yet cousin marriage has been practiced, even encouraged, in many of those same cultures. So your contention that "cousin romance must be incest" fails the tests of history and time. And it's not OOC. Given their personalities, I can see them being a couple (relation issue aside). Still, why?! Oh, whatever. Your arguements seem to hint that you wanted to be a smug know-it-all (who has his facts wrong) just by posting the thing, and this perverted image is really not worth the time I'm giving it. Good day to you, sir.
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Post by PoisonousAngel on Mar 18, 2009 23:50:53 GMT -5
Well if you're so for cousins being together like this, I just have one question:
Would you date one of YOUR first cousins, just like Tim and Joss?
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Post by hannah on Mar 19, 2009 1:25:47 GMT -5
"None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD." Leviticus 18:6. he said it, not me. But then He goes on to specify just what that means, and cousin is not classified as "near of kin" take into consideration the fact the world population during that time was significantly smaller than it is today, making it much harder to find an "eligible" partner outside of your family. Actually, it's legal in many states, as well as Japan, the Middle East and most of Europe. so are same sex civil unions, pal. cousins dating borders very closely to incest, so hopefully it is obvious as to why so many modern americans frown upon such a pairing.
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Post by Dr. Feelgood on Mar 19, 2009 4:17:35 GMT -5
Oh, whatever. Your arguements seem to hint that you wanted to be a smug know-it-all (who has his facts wrong) just by posting the thing, and this perverted image is really not worth the time I'm giving it. Hehehe! "Arguments! My only weakness! Curse you!" ;D Ah, that cracks me up every time. Not saying I disagree with you; you just chose a funny way to give up.
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Post by eclogite on Mar 19, 2009 7:47:36 GMT -5
"You sure have a purty mouth, boy...."
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Post by Dippy on Mar 19, 2009 11:02:34 GMT -5
That's not right...
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 19, 2009 16:06:12 GMT -5
Well if you're so for cousins being together like this, I just have one question: Would you date one of YOUR first cousins, just like Tim and Joss? Theoretically, yes, though realistically speaking that's not really an option.
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Post by Twila Starla on Mar 19, 2009 16:09:05 GMT -5
Well if you're so for cousins being together like this, I just have one question: Would you date one of YOUR first cousins, just like Tim and Joss? Theoretically, yes, though realistically speaking that's not really an option. She meant it in real terms, like if you had a choice between a female cousin and a non-related female. Just as Tim does.
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Post by ninjanaco on Mar 19, 2009 16:31:53 GMT -5
Still, why?! Oh, whatever. Your arguements seem to hint that you wanted to be a smug know-it-all (who has his facts wrong) just by posting the thing, and this perverted image is really not worth the time I'm giving it. Reading motives into other people's actions? Who's the know-it-all now? Actually, I refrained from posting the link to the pic's deviantART page because I gave a long spiel on what I think about cousin marriage (and, by extension, cousins dating) because I didn't want this thread to become filled with flames and arguments about the pros and cons of such things. But, since it's become that anyway... Also, if you're going to claim that someone has their facts wrong, please offer proof that that is the case, rather than just stating so as if your word is law. She meant in real terms, like if you had a choice between a female cousin and a non-related female. Just as Tim does, You mean you think " he meant in real terms." Her actual post, in my opinion, was ambiguous.
In the case of "between a female cousin and a non-related female," it would depend on the kinds of people the two women were. If I did marry my cousin, it would be because she was the right woman for me who happened to be my cousin, rather than because she was my cousin. Also, if I was in love with a cousin, I wouldn't make any moves on her unless I was pretty sure she was open to the possibility of having a romantic relationship with me.
As for Tim and Joss, I think they would only date/marry if they were in love with each other, rather than because they are cousins.
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Post by The Yetimonster on Mar 19, 2009 17:50:07 GMT -5
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