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Post by Nightspade on Apr 17, 2010 22:00:14 GMT -5
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Post by drakkenfan on Apr 17, 2010 23:12:52 GMT -5
I don't know... the teachers themselves did not take part in the bullying. They could face a lawsuit or something, but I don't think the teachers should face prison. They should face a lawsuit like a doctor/hospital would face for letting a sick patient die in the waiting room. What they did is ignore a situation... but not take part in it.
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Post by seniorlovr on Apr 18, 2010 1:20:33 GMT -5
I agree this is a tragedy; I myself am a survivor of bullying, and a lot of it took place when I was this girl's age.
More action should have been taken to help the victim, and I hope necessary changes will be made, should another student end up in a similar situation.
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Post by Zephyr on Apr 18, 2010 4:26:41 GMT -5
I don't know... the teachers themselves did not take part in the bullying. They could face a lawsuit or something, but I don't think the teachers should face prison. They should face a lawsuit like a doctor/hospital would face for letting a sick patient die in the waiting room. What they did is ignore a situation... but not take part in it. They could penal sentencing if convicted of criminal negligence. It'd be a tight rope act though. If a patient dies in a waiting room because the true nature of their condition was never acknowledged, then that's suit worthy, however if the emergency room knows full well the severity of a condition and does nothing - that's criminal negligence. If there's even a smidgen of doubt that they the extent to which this girl was being bullied, they'll probably not see jail time.
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Post by Nightspade on Apr 18, 2010 11:06:37 GMT -5
It's not that they're not going to jail that has me upset. It's that they seem to be getting off scot free. I mean, really, if they're just going to sit back and let this happen shouldn't they at least have their teaching lisences revoked?
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Post by drakkenfan on Apr 18, 2010 14:43:38 GMT -5
As much as I hate bullies, there is a slight problem with this case. For instance, what if a person calls someone a jerk, and then the person who was called that name commits suicide? Does this mean the name-caller will face criminal charges? So is any sort of criticism suddenly a crime if someone happens to commit suicide? Where does one draw the line? What about this: www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/19/virginiatechshooting/main2703671.shtmlCho, the virginia tech shooter was picked on. So are the bullies who picked on him responsible for his suicide and school shooting?
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Post by seniorlovr on Apr 18, 2010 15:33:26 GMT -5
It's true; the girl made her own decision to die. However, I do feel that persons in a position of authority should take stronger measures to help students in trouble.
As my mother once said: suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem; it seems that the girl's problems ran deeper than just bullying. Depression and anxiety need to be treated.
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Post by Panther on Apr 18, 2010 15:53:08 GMT -5
As much as I hate bullies, there is a slight problem with this case. For instance, what if a person calls someone a jerk, and then the person who was called that name commits suicide? Does this mean the name-caller will face criminal charges? So is any sort of criticism suddenly a crime if someone happens to commit suicide? Where does one draw the line? What about this: www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/19/virginiatechshooting/main2703671.shtmlCho, the virginia tech shooter was picked on. So are the bullies who picked on him responsible for his suicide and school shooting? That's something that would be argued in court, but I think there is a definite line. If the situation you proposed actually happened, they would probably be able to trace a history of depression from long before the name calling took place (since there's no way that could happen out of the blue), in which the name caller would not be deemed responsible. In the case of the Virgina Tech shooter, no, because anybody who will cause a massacre as a result of being bullied would either have been so severely bullied that the bullies would go to jail for what they did to him anyway, or be insane, which can't really be blamed on anyone. But if school administration is fully aware that severe bullying is going on and choose to ignore it, they should be charged indefinitely. How is it any better to watch it happen when you certainly have the power to stop it and punish the bullies? There's really no excuse.
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Post by Zephyr on Apr 18, 2010 16:53:04 GMT -5
As much as I hate bullies, there is a slight problem with this case. For instance, what if a person calls someone a jerk, and then the person who was called that name commits suicide? Does this mean the name-caller will face criminal charges? So is any sort of criticism suddenly a crime if someone happens to commit suicide? Where does one draw the line? Constant harassment day in and day out is different than occasional name calling.
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Post by kpseason5 on Apr 19, 2010 12:49:43 GMT -5
I live in Massachusetts. It was all over the News the Week it Happened. It is so Sad. She was a Good Kid Too.
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Post by seniorlovr on Apr 19, 2010 13:34:58 GMT -5
As aforementioned, I went through a situation similar to hers when I was fifteeen (granted, I did not have Internet problems back then, but I was a target for a lot of people in school), so my heart goes out to her and her family.
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Post by Tea on Apr 19, 2010 15:46:53 GMT -5
oh my good, horrible news. wish the world could be a different place at times
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Post by GT on Apr 19, 2010 22:25:07 GMT -5
That's horrible. To be tortured into a suicidal state...those guys got what was coming to them. It also bothers me how the teachers and staff get to leave unscathed when they did nothing to help. So much for encouraging minors to stand up for others when they themselves keep quiet.
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