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I am not. I honestly see nothing her new kit has that her old nerfed kit didn't have something superior to. Stealth? Yeah, I don't need to comment. Ravage? It used to shred resistances, how the hell is attack speed supposed to be better? Ultimate? Give me free health per kill or assist over a slow and a shield any day of the week. Hate Spike is less spammable, and her old passive, despite all the derision it got, was deceptively powerful for a laning Eve. The spell that replaces her stealth? Whoop-de-fucking-do, move speed. I've already pointed out why it's probably one of those rare abilities that feels less satisfying than the AS reducing spells Riot has to give other effects to to make them feel useful. So, yeah, I honestly don't see any advantages to new Eve over old Eve.
Post by Tsaalyo Phoenix on Jul 29, 2012 1:41:59 GMT -5
NEED MORE TENTS.
You fail to consider Eve's new hate spike deals far more damage. Her Dark Frenzy is very useful in closing the tunnel vision gap on her stun, and once you land a couple of spells, you've gained MS enough to escape. She's got a health based AOE nuke that slows AND delivers a potentially massive shield. But best of all? Hate Spike and Ravage now scale off AD AND AP. Her kit favors AD, but at the same time, AP from Trinity Force or other good items is not wasted. The AP scaling on Ravage is still a nuke, which allows for early game error while you build your Trinity Force and Infinity Edge. She's a terror, with a level 2 gank as lethal as Shaco's.
Except, no, it doesn't. It had a 0.8 cooldown before and the equivalent of a 0.63 ratio. For every cast of the new Hate Spike, you got an equivalent ratio of 1.18125 on the old one. Otherwise known as .73125 more than the new one. And those are just the ratios. Base stats went from 70.3125 up to 239.0625, otherwise known as 30.3125 -> 119.0625 more. That's what is otherwise referred to as a flat nerf. The point on Dark Frenzy is not only moot because you seem to think she has a stun, but also because her old kit didn't HAVE a "tunnel vision gap", not to mention the cooldown on her old stealth combined with the shorter restealth time meant she could very easily escape just using that. Or, you know, her old ult, which gave her movespeed and attack speed . I don't see how having a skill that works like Lulu's ult but worse on self is supposed to make up for the lack of the far more spammable slow she had - that used to be a stun, but that's neither here nor there - or the refreshing-on-kill health restoration she had. Ravage lacks the actual benefit of it for AP or hybrid Eve - it doesn't shred resistances, it just gives attack speed. Otherwise known as something an AP champ doesn't care about. Hell, Ravage has been flat-out nerfed. Same ratio, less range, 10->50 base damage loss. And, no, Ravage and Hate Spike do not scale off of AD. They scale off of bonus AD. That is a huge difference. AP Eve gets nothing from the AD ratios of those two skills, and I've already pointed out how the new Hate Spike is inferior to the old one - in quite a bit of detail. You cannot close the damage gap there as AD OR AP Eve now, because the old Hate Spike was objectively superior in every way - less expensive, more spammable, better base stats, better ratio... she's not a terror. She's ass, with level two ganks worse than old Eve ever had.
Riot has admitted that they deliberately released the rework with Eve underpowered. Wanna know why people aren't doing so bad with her? Perception. Feeders now think "Oh, Eve was remade. Can't troll with her now. May as well pick someone else to troll with." Serious players now think "Oh, Eve was remade. She MUST be better than she was before!" without actually looking at the nitty gritty of it. You are doing no better and no worse than you were before because you have gotten used to the new kit and thus your skill level allows you to adapt in a game to the weakness of her kit. That doesn't mean they don't exist. You want a jungler with a speed buff, little CC, an attack that hits twice, has a ranged attack and is tanky? Play Shyvana, she at least has a decent model.
Post by Tsaalyo Phoenix on Jul 29, 2012 2:39:03 GMT -5
Now Iris, why do you hate this tent?
You realize all Riot plans to do with Eve are reduce the cooldown on her ult and reduce the time it takes to re-enter stealth. Her ult cooldown is a minor inconvenience, and frankly, her stealth cooldown is fine. Wanna know why I'm doing better? AOE nuke+slow leading to a big shield, MS and AS boost, the AS often able to be procced more than once in a teamfight unlike the old ult, an immunity to that first burst of CC, and a hate spike that actually hits what you're targeting.