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Post by yes4possible on Aug 7, 2007 16:43:29 GMT -5
I saw Cartoon Network Scooby Doo Where Are You marathon last weekend, and it brought back memories for me. I remember in the early 90's when the Turner owned networks TBS and TNT aired reruns of almost if not every Scooby Doo series from 1969 - 1985 (which at the time was every Scooby series, not counting the prequal series of the late 80's) and watched it everyday.
I always tried to guess who the bad guy would end up being at the end, and if I remember correctly I guessed correctly quite often. The Scooby Doo of the new milleneum are more challenging to guess correctly, they add more twists, and sometimes it doesn't make sense on why that person was the monster.
Though I don't care for CGI or turning it into live action, I found the first live action movie enjoyable, it felt like it was written by fellow Scooby fans who thought like me when I watched the original shows when I was a kid. And I loved the fact of who the villain was in the first movie, I don't want to spoil it, but I have always hated that character.
Ironicly this is a Kim Possible board, and one of the trademarks is the villain calling the Scooby gang "Those meddling kids", if anyone defines meddling kid today, it is Kim Possible.
I wasn't alive when the original series and its 70's spinoff originally aired, and the first Scooby Doo series was on the air. The first Scooby Doo series I have saw was the late 80's prequil series A Pup Named Scooby Doo, which watching that first sort of the right order I guess to the Scooby Doo series.
Scooby Doo is very underrated in its importance to Hanna Barbara, before Scooby Doo Where Are You came out in 1969, Hanna Barbara was in a slump in the late 60's coming out with big hit shows, Scooby Doo Where Are You gave HB new mommentum that would carry the company into the mid 80's.
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Aug 7, 2007 20:03:18 GMT -5
Hmm on this board yes Scooby-Doo is very underated but not world wide, it happens to be very popular. Which is why it gets such good ratings each show, but I've been a fan for along time. Shaggys a favorite characrer of mine.
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Post by yes4possible on Aug 7, 2007 20:40:22 GMT -5
Hmm on this board yes Scooby-Doo is very underated but not world wide, it happens to be very popular. Which is why it gets such good ratings each show, but I've been a fan for along time. Shaggys a favorite characrer of mine. No I am just saying it is underrated in when it protray to its role in importance to the history of the Hanna Barbara company. Hanna Barbara already had classic hit cartoons long before, but by the late 60's it was in decline. Than Scooby came a long and re energized Hanna Barbara. |
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Post by littlemissruthie on Aug 7, 2007 21:23:23 GMT -5
I like the original show! Its fun to watch!
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Post by yes4possible on Aug 7, 2007 21:42:05 GMT -5
I loved the original show as well. The first Scooby Doo series Scooby Doo Where Are You! is by the far the best.
I loved the ending when they unmasked the villain, and most of the time it is the first character the Mystery Inc. gang meet.
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Post by littlemissruthie on Aug 7, 2007 21:52:56 GMT -5
Honestly, the original is the only one I like, but Scappy-Doo is okay from time-to-time!
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Post by morefood2001 on Aug 8, 2007 8:23:18 GMT -5
I am a major fan of Scooby Doo. And I did see part of the marathon this past weekend  I am really good at guessing who the villians are  |
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Post by RazzleDazzle™ on Aug 8, 2007 13:17:04 GMT -5
Scooby Doo is funny! ;D I love the original show.
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Post by Commander Argus on Aug 8, 2007 14:53:00 GMT -5
The original is the best. Some of the newer stuff forgets one critical aspect: none of the supernatural stuff was ever real in the original, it was just the villain faking it!
One thing I did like about the live-action movies: Velma was WAY hotter than Daphne!.
By the way, there is a Scooby Doo reference in KP - In Tickx3 Kim does air quotes saying "Keep Out Meddling Kids" when Wade says Drakken's island is haunted.
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Post by yes4possible on Aug 8, 2007 15:30:36 GMT -5
The original is the best. Some of the newer stuff forgets one critical aspect: none of the supernatural stuff was ever real in the original, it was just the villain faking it! One thing I did like about the live-action movies: Velma was WAY hotter than Daphne!. By the way, there is a Scooby Doo reference in KP - In Tickx3 Kim does air quotes saying "Keep Out Meddling Kids" when Wade says Drakken's island is haunted. I give the newer version (1998 - present) credit for the following: The fake monsters and ghosts look more scarry than ever. The mystery are a little harder to solve. That is only when they do it right, in which the ghosts and monsters are fake. They should never make them real, because that is not the point of the show. But other than that, the original is better. |
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Post by nascarjohn29038 on Aug 8, 2007 21:36:22 GMT -5
I am a fan of every Scooby Doo until the show was changed into What's New, Scooby Doo.
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Aug 8, 2007 21:45:53 GMT -5
I like the originals, What's New, the movies, and Bravo Dooby Doo (the Johnny Bravo/Scooby Doo crossover episode.).
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Post by railroadnut70 on Aug 8, 2007 22:11:02 GMT -5
Ah yes! I'm a Scooby-Doo fan myself, and my favorite character on that show is Daphne. (Used to like Velma a little more.) In fact, I became a Kim Possible fan because KP reminds me of Daphne. (I often wonder if KP is inspired or influenced at least in part by Daphne.)
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Post by yes4possible on Aug 9, 2007 6:31:13 GMT -5
Never thought about this, but Shaggy and Scooby they are like Ron and Rufus in a way.
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Post by clayton on Aug 9, 2007 16:10:54 GMT -5
The new series proves what I've always believed. Shaggy and Schooby are the only neccissary characters. I always figured Daphne for Shaggy's girlfriend though, especially since they were in a few series with just them.
00a: Rob Lowe / Eminem
Pros & Cons
Nancy Grace.....Ana Gasteyer
Mark Fassbinder.....Chris Parnell
Shaggy.....Rob Lowe
Nancy Grace: Welcome back to "Pros & Cons". I'm Nancy Grace. Today: what happens when ordinary citizens take the laws into their own hands? Is it justice in a world of corrupt law enforcement, or simply anarchy? Here to discuss the issue, live from Raiford State Prison in Florida, are my first guests - David Montgomery, and his attorney Mark Fassbinder.
[ show David and Mark sitting glumly in a jail cell ]
Mark Fassbinder: Thank you, Nancy.
Nancy Grace: On the surface, Mr. Montgomery's crime seems all too familiar - a desperate man, down on his luck, discovers a broken-down amusement park is built on top of some pirate treasure.. so he tries to scare people away from it by dressing up like a ghost. An old, old story. But this time, there is a bizarre twist. His "alleged" crime was discovered by a group of amateur detectives. Two of them are here with me now. Please welcome Scooby Doo, and his associate Warren "Shaggy" Shagowski.
[ cut to a creepy, night setting with Rob Lowe dressed as Shaggy and a hideous puppet version of Scooby Doo at his side ]
Shaggy: Like, wow! We're thrilled to be here!
Nancy Grace: Mr. Shagowski, Mr. Doo.. we'll start with you. What made you decide to take the law into your own hands?
Shaggy: Well, one day, me and Scoob and the gang, we're sitting around the malt shop, when we decided the law's gone soft on all the dirtbags who get their jollies dressing up as apemen or glowing deep sea divers!
Scooby Doo: Yeah. Dirtbags! Hee-hee hee-hee-hee-hee!
Mark Fassbinder: Well, that's if Mr. Shaggowski can pass himself off as a "champion" of law and order. But the truth is that this man and his dog - not to mention, another member of their gang - a smaller, scrappier dog - all have an extensive criminal record!
Scooby Doo: That's a rie!
Mark Fassbinder: I have the evidence right here, Mr. Doo! Prior convinctions include 4 counts of meddling, 12 counts of meddling in the second degree, 2 counts of vehicular meddling, meddling across state lines, and last, but certainly not least, sodomy! I'm sorry.. I misread that.. it's "meddling", I apologize.
Shaggy: Well, zoinks! Honestly! Zoinks you in the ass! We're the ones putting our gonads on the line! We're the ones dressing up as Italian barbers, pretending to give fake monsters haircuts!
Mark Fassbinder: It's all an act, Nancy! He'd have us believe that he puts himself at risk! That sometimes he's so scared, he tries to run away, and can only float in mid-air running in place. But the truth is that he and his friends actively go out looking for trouble!
Shaggy: Like, we're not asking to get flat tires outside of spooky castles, man! It just happens!
Mark Fassbinder: Please! You're a degenerate! You know, Nancy, I once saw this man take two stacks of coldcuts, shuffle them like a deck of cards, then ate the entire thing!
Shaggy: Like, look.. the sentences handed out to fake ghosts and werewolves are far too lenient!
Nancy Grace: Well, what would you suggest is appropriate punishment?
Scooby Doo: Reath renalty!
Nancy Grace: You're honestly advocating the reath renalty? Wow. Strong words. Strong, poorly pronounced words from a large dog.
Shaggy: Hey, lady! Like, I thought this was America? I don't want to live in a country where four hippies and a talking dog can't have the freedom to catch fake ghosts with the occasional help of Phyllis Diller or the Harlem Globetrotters! That's my America! And while you may not agree with my opinion, you're not gonna change it!
Mark Fassbinder: [ touched ] Wow. Like, zoinks, I.. I didn't know you felt that way.. But.. would you consider compromising your ethics.. [ reaches down ] ..for a Scooby Snack? [ holds up box ]
Shaggy: [ excited ] Like, wow! A Scooby Snack!
Scooby Doo: Yeah! Yeah! Hee-hee hee-hee-hee-hee!
Nancy Grace: That's about all the time we have. Please join us next week when we examine the conflict of victims' rights in the theft of pic-a-nic baskets.
[ fade ]
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Aug 9, 2007 16:30:42 GMT -5
I love all the TV shows, What's New SCooby-Doo? and Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get a Clue. They all rock hard.
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Post by clayton on Aug 9, 2007 16:54:36 GMT -5
There's another animated movie out soon
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Post by yes4possible on Aug 9, 2007 17:32:15 GMT -5
It is amasing the logejivity Scooby Doo has had in starring in tv series and movies. Since the late 60's, early 70's series Scooby Doo Where Are You, it has many many spinoffs and tv movies and direct to video movies.
And a handful of these spinoffs while they were some flops in between don't get me wrong, were successful in their own right. Unheard of for a cartoon franchise to have that type of success. There are other franchise that has had as many if not more spinoffs as Scooby Doo Where Are You, but none of them were as successful.
Example the Flintstones they have had many spinoffs in the 70's and 80's, and besides the original series, do you honestly remember any of them or at least as fondingly as the original series? The answer is no. Say what you want about the Scrappy Doo series, bottom line you remember those shows.
One improvement of the late 90's / 2000's Scooby Doo is the character of Fred. I like him better now than before. On the old shows I thought he was bossy and out right dictator, he was always right and was a bit of stiff, who took things to seriously and I don't get the idea he liked Shaggy and maybe even Scooby, and he is just tolerated them.
He was and probably still is (he improved but still behind everybody else) my least favorite original main character. Don't get me wrong, I liked him a lot better than Scrappy or any of those Scooby relavties. If you are someone like Kim Possible, who does most of the work, you can be bossy, but in this situation it is Scooby and Shaggy who does most of the work being "the destraction".
Now he makes his share of mistakes, less of a stiff, and is more likeable than before. He is more human. And there is not that distance between him and Shaggy and to a lesser extint Scooby on the old shows.
The one on SNL that was mentioned that was a great parody, one favorite was in a season 3 episode of South Park in which a popular rock band at the time called Korn and alien bird named Nibblet were like the Scooby gang.
I loved their arguements over the name pirate ghosts or ghost pirates, and at the end with this diologue:
Korn band leader: Okay now let's see who these pirate ghosts really are. (ghosts disappear) I guess they were really pirate ghosts.
I know there is a movie at the end of the month, it looks very funny. Though I do wish Grey DeLisle would try to sound more like the original Daphne, instead of standard valley girl voice she uses for her. I guess I am just to familar with her work, it sounds weird to me. If you have never heard her normal non evil valley girl voice, it wouldn't sound weird. But to me it does.
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I am really good at guessing who the villians are 
