|
Post by madmar on Mar 26, 2009 19:11:23 GMT -5
(hehe. Thanks. My sister and I make KP banners for fun. I can't find my Monkey Fist one, though. XD)
Back on topic:
Don't you think that Monty sells archeological finds on the sly to get money? Or maybe he robs banks or something? As obsessed as he is with power, you'd think he'd understand how much cash he'd need to travel, eat, feed his monkey ninjas (ETC). Maybe he's got some sort of black market set up where he sells artifacts to fund his lifestyle. God knows he had no scruples about taking things for his own, private use.
Or maybe Amy asked for an... *AHEM* .... favor from Monty in exchange for a super-stealthy-mutant-monkey army.
Or maybe she asked for a "favor" as an added price tag to his original mutation and returned his money or something. Part of me thinks that if Monty ever preformed "favors" for DNAmy in exchange for genetic alteration, she wouldn't be the sort to keep his money. As much as she throws herself at him, she's not a prostitute and I think they'd both feel a bit awkward if he paid her and slept with her.
|
|
|
Post by pengychan on Mar 27, 2009 8:49:52 GMT -5
Let me know if you do XD Yup, I can definitely picture him selling artifacts he doesn't need to get money - after all, he has to get money somewhere. I think we also discussed about the possibility he would so some, uh... job for other villains when in need of money. I think that would explain why he was after that chip in "Adventures in Rufus Sitting" while he's usually all about monkey magic stuff. So yeah, I think selling artifacts he has no real use for to get the money he needs fits him. I the possibilities he could sell valuable artifacts he would have once valued dearly as an archaeologist kinda shows how much his views have changed ...as for other "how does he get the money?" ideas, take a look at the one-page comic at the end of this post XD Hey, of course not, I was just joking - I didn't mean that for real XD Now that I think about it, at some point we speculated about the possibility Monty's money had been used to pay for the machines we get to see in Amy's lab - those have to be expensive, and since she had been kicked out from University she surely didn't get money from it. It could be that Monty's family fortune went to pay for the equipment that was later used to give him his hands and feet - if so, I bet she could have easily done any other mutation he could ask for free ;D
|
|
|
Post by madmar on Mar 27, 2009 17:32:25 GMT -5
Hehe. Delivering newspapers for cash? That's hysterical! I don't know if that comic is considered canon or not, but the idea is cute. And, of course, I'd much rather see Monty and his monkey ninjas in my driveway on Sunday morning than the guy who actually does deliver our papers.
But, are you suggesting that Monty is (or rather, was) Amy's financial sponsor or something?
|
|
|
Post by pengychan on Mar 27, 2009 17:53:41 GMT -5
I don't think that comic could be actually considered canon, but it's fun to think about it XD And yeah, I bet there is no one in this thread that wouldn't rather have them delivering newspapers each morning XD
Yep, that's my idea. I'll quote myself from one of the earlier pages of the thread because I'm lazy XD
|
|
|
Post by madmar on Mar 27, 2009 18:04:45 GMT -5
And ya know... if he'd sponsored anyone else, he'd just get a little plaque that says "Funding From Lord Montgomery Fiske". But... random, slightly related thought, if Monty met Amy pre-series, and Amy insists in season 2 that her heart belongs to him, why is she flirting with Barkin so much in Season 1? Casts a little shadow of doubt over her claims of dating Monty. Unless they had an on-off relationship from Season 1 to Season 3... Or, if they were 'just friends' and it deepened in season 2. Or maybe absence really does make the heart grow fonder. Or maybe Monty's not lying that it's a "purely professional relationship".
|
|
|
Post by Dr. Feelgood on Mar 27, 2009 18:52:34 GMT -5
I'm just wondering, has anybody seen/ heard of this?
|
|
|
Post by mtkau on Mar 27, 2009 19:49:31 GMT -5
Well, if it's the special limited uncut edition, how can you not buy?
|
|
|
Post by madmar on Mar 27, 2009 21:01:29 GMT -5
I saw an ad for Monkey Fist: Floating Snake on my Netflix before, but I never gave it much thought 'til now.
So I looked it up:
It was filmed in 1979
Get a load of some real monkey business with the weirdest kung fu movie you're likely to see this side of the Pacific Ocean. The good guys leap from trees and fight in what could best be described as a kind of drunken monkey style; their bad-guy adversaries fight snake-fist style. What you're left with is uproarious battle-royal set pieces that'll have you on the edge of your seat!
The first two reviews were pretty contrasting (I'm not going to post ALL the reveiws or anything. Most were unhelpful, really)
Beast: This movie makes little sense. its not "weird" like the description says either. Great martial arts makes up for a poor plot. Unfortunetly, the martial arts isn't all that impressive either. More posing than fighting. The "gym leaders" are comical. And the barber fights the same 3-4 guys in 3 different scenes! Fight scenes aren't all that bad, just doesn't make up for the poor story is all. Who is the deadly snake and where did he come from? how is it that the barber knew of the snake ahead of time? why do they call melons 'pumpkins'? Rent the movie. i gave it one star because i didn't like it, but it isn't the worst kung fu flick around...it just isn't all that good either.
gyi 69938: Monkey Fist Floating Snake is an absolute gem among classic 70's kung fu movies, no doubt about it. Staunch fans of these quirky Hong Kong productions are not looking for exceptional editing, plot, or accurate dubbing. Any hard-core kung fu movie fan will tell you that it's often the movie's weird, flawed, and funny characteristics that make for a first-rate feature. For these fans, Monkey Fist Floating Snake (AKA Monkey Kung-fu) will not disappoint. First, it's important to note that, unlike many Kung Fu movies that attempted to be serious and dramatic, this movie was intended to be a COMEDIC action feature. The lead character, Ah-Chung, is superbly portrayed by one of the best Chinese actors in history, Chen Mu Chuan. (AKA Mu Chun Chen, who also stars in "the Crippled Masters") Chen has an obvious talent for comedy and slapstick humor that's unrivaled among his Chinese colleagues. For fans of Monkey-style and Snake-style Kung Fu, it doesn't get much better than this. (except maybe for "Snake in the Money's Shadow") The usual gang of Hong Kong Brits provide an equally absurd and hilarious English dub-over throughout. Speaking of sound, the film's soundtrack is simply classic. Sprinkled with often-used spaghetti western jams and silly synthesizer snips, the soundtrack fits the weirdness of the film perfectly. Amazingly, I've even heard a surf band in Duluth cover the film's main theme. As with many other movies of the genre, I had to watch this film maybe fifteen times in order to fully understand the nooks and crannies in the plot, but it was worth it. Each time watching this film is a renewed pleasure. That's the beauty of low-budget 70's Hong Kong cinema. Chances are, I'll carry the revolutionary character Yu Su Hi's hilarious quotes in my head until the day I die. Watch this movie!
---
Neither reviewer has similiar viewing preferences to my family's account, but I figure that if I'm curious enough, I may add it to my queue at some point.
|
|
|
Post by fireandchutes77 on Mar 27, 2009 22:19:02 GMT -5
Thoughts on "Exchange:" The pacing of this episode seems fast. I wonder if this was one of the first ones Mr. Loter managed. Animation is top-notch, almost to "So the Drama" levels. As noted before, MF's two introductions are effective without any dialogue at all. His grasp of command and level of synchronization with his teammates allow him to give orders with only gestures - a trait Team Possible shares. If Monty wasn't a certifiable nutcase, he'd make a valuable addition to the SAS. On a redheaded note - Kim's spar with Hirotaka (around 08:10 in my version) was a really slick bit of choreography. As might be expected, our favorite cheerleader can think on her feet; she goes from wide-eyed surprise to an effective defense in the span of only a few swings. This fight is one of a few times that Kim's body is given some more proper proportioning - she's got more bulk in the torso and hips, alleviating some of her waif-ish "slouching hourglass" figure, and watching her put that finely tuned machine to work is, well, spectacular. I like the conservation of detail - Ron's ripped doorway is juryrigged with newspapers, not simply redrawn whole. Monty is... certainly one of the darker villains of the KP 'verse. The lava pit is standard, but the menacing way he pulls out the sword and flashes the blade in Ron's face is a whole other step up. I also think he's also the one that's gotten the most visibly, dangerously angry - when he went to his knees after the Lotus blade went over the cliff, I seriously thought his next act would be to attack Ron. ======== Quick jot about "Full Monkey:" the "Chippy attacking somebody's head" slapstick is a little.... less funny in light of the recent chimp mauling.
|
|
|
Post by pengychan on Mar 28, 2009 11:48:47 GMT -5
True. A plaque is nice, but not as useful as brand new limbs, I guess ;D I think she was just being flirty because...yeah, just because. She was flirty with Drakken as well in "Partners", but he eventually rejected him by telling him her heart belonged to another - I guess it's just how she behaves around man, but that doesn't necessarily mean she's serious about it. I'm pretty sure the same thing that happened with Drakken would have happened with Barkin as well, even if he hadn't found out her secret and upset her enough to make her think fusing him with a naked mole rat would be a good idea XD As for her claims about dating Monty, I can't recall her ever claiming exactly that - she just has feeling to him and assumes he does as well. And yeah, judging from the way he behaves around her in "Gorilla Fist", I'm pretty sure Monty is honest when he says it's a purely professional relationship XD I doubt there was ever anything but that going on between them: DNAmy simply feel for him, and just assumed he felt the same way for her and just wanted to play hard to get - long story short, it was all in her head. Poor guy ;D Heard of it, but never seen it. Though the reviews madmar posted are making me want to give it a try XD True, too bad he's such a nutcase. Then again, if someone filled him up with tons of meds... As for your comment about Kim's design and the animation, you're right. I admit I didn't pay really close attention to Kim's side of the episode, but now that you brought my attention on it, I have to admit those scenes are really well done. ...and those newspapers on Ron's doorway were a simply awesome detail ;D True. Good guys are threatened by villains in most episodes and in even more menacing situations, but there is someone in that scene that simply makes me go "okay, no one can top this one". Maybe it's because he looks so insane in those frames? I really couldn't tell, but I love that scene to bits. Yeah, it was another great scene, and he was really furious in it. I would have loved to have him attacking Ron afterwards as well, but I guess that since Ron's "real" opponent in that episode was Fukushima it's natural he would have to fight him. Then again, I really wish we got to see Monty doing something more than just yelling "monkey ninjas, attack/retreat" during that fight Oh, that! I heard about it, and it's just terrible. Goes to show how dangerous it can be keeping exotic animals like that as pets. On the other hand, pretty much any pet such as dogs can get dangerous, not just the exotic ones. I was attacked by a bulldog when I was little, and man, he was the most peaceful dog you can think of until the moment he snapped. It's a matter of instinct, and sometimes it just gets the better of them - in such cases, you can't blame the animal because it acted out of instinct, and sometimes not even the owners because they really didn't see it coming.
|
|
|
Post by madmar on Mar 28, 2009 13:59:08 GMT -5
Given the recent chimpanzee fiasco, what do you think would happen to the monkey ninjas? I can just see Animal Control trying to remove them from Fiske Manor (Castle? I can't remember which name is correct). But not even Monty is irresponsible enough to give his monkey ninjas Xanax, for God's sake. I'm sorry but who in their right mind gives a chimp Xanax?
Touche, but, still. I can't help but wonder if he did something to make her think that he reciprocates her feelings. Whether it was manipulative flirtation on his part or some sort of "moment of weakness" one night stand is irrelevant; for all fans make fun of DNAmy, she's not an idiot. I firmly believe he did something-- either intentionally or accidentally-- that encouraged her and he now regrets it. Call it a gut feeling, since I'm not sure if there's anything in canon to support it. No woman-- however insane and twisted-- pursues a guy with that much...
I suddenly had a weird thought. Has anyone read/seen Shakespeare's A Midsummer's Nights Dream? The relationship between Demetrius and Helena reminds me of Monty/Amy.
That totally hit me as I was typing and I had to find the quote. My theater class is doing Midsummer's Nights Dream and it just hit me: that conversation, give or take a few phrases, could have happened between them. I may as well conceed that Monty has given her no reason to believe what she wants. XD
|
|
|
Post by pengychan on Mar 29, 2009 7:26:01 GMT -5
Good point! I do wonder why they don't take away the monkeys each time he's defeated anyway. The only thing I can think of is that they take them only to have them running away to get back to their master each time. They're trained ninjas after all ;D True, not even him would do something that dumb. I mean...whut? O.o I can name a few people, other than myself, that could give you a hug for saying that XD But yeah, she's not an idiot. Delusional, maybe, and certainly not completely sane, but not an idiot either. Agreed. My opinion is that she either mistook Monty's interest in genetic mutation for interest in her, or Monty didn't hesitate to use his charm in order to have her more willing to perform the genetic mutation - it happens in VampireNaomi's fanfiction The Monkey's Valet. I think it was a combination of both - poor guy, he probably had no idea she would take the whole thing so far ;D Oh, yes, I have a few friends that performed it a few months ago - you're right, the dynamics are very similar in a way XD Too bad, in this case DNAmy cannot hope for magic to fix things. Or to screw up things even worse before fixing them, whatever ;D
|
|
|
Post by madmar on Apr 14, 2009 7:50:07 GMT -5
Who says she can't get magic? Monty can; Ron can. Why not Amy? It's KP Verse, where anything is possible.
... which makes me want to toy with the idea of Amy using some sort of love potion/ray/whatever on Monty. I've never written a Monty/Amy story before, so... we'll see how it goes.
Random question, though: What color are Monty's eyes? I was watching the Monkey Fist "The Young and The Hopeless" vid by KaratekaLi on Youtube, and his eyes change color. They're gray. And then they're blue. And in one episode, they turn olive green. In some, they're black. I know it's a nitpicky detail... But does anyone have a preferred color?
I think I prefer grey, myself. It seems charming and sinister at the same time.
|
|
|
Post by vampirenaomi on Apr 14, 2009 8:39:43 GMT -5
... which makes me want to toy with the idea of Amy using some sort of love potion/ray/whatever on Monty. I've never written a Monty/Amy story before, so... we'll see how it goes. Ooh, drop me a line when/if you get it done! I'd love to see the result. I prefer kind of blueish grey. Like this. The exact shade depends a lot on the lightning and what other colours are in the image.
|
|
|
Post by pengychan on Apr 14, 2009 9:52:00 GMT -5
Who says she can't get magic? Monty can; Ron can. Why not Amy? It's KP Verse, where anything is possible. ... which makes me want to toy with the idea of Amy using some sort of love potion/ray/whatever on Monty. I've never written a Monty/Amy story before, so... we'll see how it goes. Ahah, true XD I never thought about that, probably because she's so technology-oriented (much like any other villain except Monty) that I never ever thought about it. It sounds interesting! Yeah, his eye color can change, pretty much like his design in each episode XD I have a lousy memory so I easily forget things like different shades, but I seem to recall his eyes are of a lighter shade of blue as "Monty Fiske" and generally a darker, gray-ish shade of blue as "Monkey Fist" - I think I like that one the most. As for the green eyes, I think he had them only in the half-lenght episode "Overdue". I'm still wondering how the heck could they mistake his eye color like that - then again, considering what they did to his nose and chin in "Monkey Ninjas in Space", it could be worse XD
|
|
|
Post by SpicyWeasel on Apr 14, 2009 10:35:56 GMT -5
Blueish grey for me as well. It's Monty's true eye colour, as shown in pure daylight. Like Vampirenaomi said, the colour change depending on the light and the colour of the surroundings. But hey, it reminds me of something I've noticed about eye colour. Monty's is often described as ''dark blue'' ''blue'' or ''pure blue''. To me, they'll never be ''pure blue'', as there's a tone of grey in them as well. There have been characters in KP, mainly background students, with a PURE blue eye colour, different from Monty's shade: Kid #01 Norwegian lunch lady. *Yeah, the pic is from ASiT...but in the world of KP (in Norway or not), this (and the one above) is the closest a colour has been to ''pure blue'' in my opinion. As Madmar said, the grey tone does gives a more sinister, even calm, melancholic touch. I love it that way. Blueish gray, but still a tone of blue. <3
|
|