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Post by Raptor™ on Dec 7, 2005 20:18:54 GMT -5
I voted Shego. Monkey Fist seemed to have a great deal of ability in his first appearance in Monkey Fist Strikes. He slid downhill from there becoming more and more unhinged until he's a mewing wreck in Gorilla Fist. That being said I think if he had a lucid moment and concentrated on beating Shego he'd have a good shot and I'd call it 50/50. But otherwise he's toast. MMM would swing the battle drastically in his favor if he could control it. The only one to use MMM's 'higher powers' thus far is Ron and by his own admission it comes and goes. We've never seen Monkey Fist use it without some MMM artifact. I don't know if he could really gain control over it with his tenuous grasp on sanity. Yup, I agree with Mystical Monkey power being unstable, that's why I picked Shego. But it looks like Monkey Fist is gaining some ground on this poll........
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Post by surforst on Dec 8, 2005 2:43:12 GMT -5
*sigh* I try so hard but some of you still refuse to see the light. Where have I failed them God! Wait is that word banned too?
True its unstable but thats why I have to throw in with Monkey Fist. We know Shego power, at least I think we won't see anything new, but the MMP is a complete unknown. God only knows what Monkey Fist can pull off in a fight if pressed. Sure he's never pulled off one of Stoppable move, probably cause he isn't the chosen one, but that doesn't mean he can't get close. Got to remember this power was consider so dangerous that they hid the statues away. You got to give Monty credit on that fact.
As for whatever artifact Monty is using to beat on Shego being knocked out of his hands I kind of doubt that one. First off that assumes the artifact isn't worn. I'm leaning toward some of these weapons being bracelets and such. Not so easy to knock aside. Besides its usually the hero that does this. The role of the side villain is to get beat on and serve as a warning to whatever hero is currently coming after them.
I still say of all the Villains I think Monty is the most willing to kill. In a fight I just see him going all crazy on Shego. Where Shego won't try to kill him Monty will go for deathblows. Heck he'll probably rip her throat out with his bare teeth. Try fighting that!
Again I can't see Shego beating up a serious Monty. Yeah in a gag episode Monty will lose but this isn't meant to be a gag fight I assume. If both are serious I still say Monty will win. Hard as it is for him to do so. Anyway like you opinions on this. Always up for a challenge after all.
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Post by Sarah Ashley T. on Dec 9, 2005 21:24:57 GMT -5
O.O;; That's a toughy. Both are extremely skilled and have their share of powers. . .Shego with her glowy hands. . .and Monty with his Mystical Monkey Powers. -____-;; No one has really said anything to make me choose which one would win. . . Alright fine I'll point something out. We got a small hint to how powerful MMM can be. Remember Ron trip to Japan in that moment when he charged up. He cracked the ground simply by bringing his foot down. Monty posses similar powers even if he is not the chosen one. We have also seen that the MMM artifacts are capable of great things. Time travel for example which says a lot for potential power. We can assume that there is more then one MMM related artifact designed as a weapon, the lotus blade probably being the strongest, which would serve to strengthen Monty greatly. Starting off with no aide Shego may stand a change against Monty but Monty with one of those artifacts would be a force capable of taking on the world. Shego on the other hand has to rely on Drakken unpredictable inventions. Weapon to Weapon Monty just wins out. Finally Monty got better minions. The ninja monkeys have sharp objects that can easily deal with any syntho or human guards that attempt to attack them. Plus they can overwhelm and wear out Shego during a battle. Finally we got motivation. Despite being a 'evil person' Shego has a nice side to her. She still loves her brothers enough not to steal there power, she goes a little easy on Kim occasional (like when Kim was sick), and she tolerates Drakken. Monty on the other hand is certifiable insane. He suffers delusions of becoming the Monkey King and he had himself altered. If any KP character can go evil dark it would be Monty. Dude wouldn't hesitate to kill anyone to get his goals while I just can't see Shego crossing that line. In a fight Monty would be the more vicious one. Shego just doesn't bring the same crazy scary to the fight. It is these reasons why I say everyone should vote for Monty here. Come on people give the crazy little monkey his credit after all. Yea.. that definently says a lot. O.o But if Shego gets mad... and I mean EXTREMELY mad (like if something bad were to happen to someone she cared about *coughDrakkencough*), she could make a good match.. and really, even though the chance of her being defeated by Monty are higher (expecially if he uses his MM powers or the Lotus Blade). . .she won't quit until she's possibly.. well dead (that is all considering the fact that she's out dfor revenge). Now, on her usual case. . she's not stupid. I'm sure Shego knows of Monty's capabilities.. and, well, insanity. . .and I doubt she's willing to die for like.. say, to conquer the world (even though it may be one of her greatest desires). She was somewhat afriad of Drakken when she first met him... but learned he was a big softy and no threat. Monty, on the other hand, would be a threat.... But also.. when would this ever really happen?? Aside from the eppy "Babysitting Rufus" (but no critical fighting was going on there)....when would they really fight to the death sorta sitch??
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Post by surforst on Dec 10, 2005 1:35:31 GMT -5
Yea.. that definently says a lot. O.o But if Shego gets mad... and I mean EXTREMELY mad (like if something bad were to happen to someone she cared about *coughDrakkencough*), she could make a good match.. and really, even though the chance of her being defeated by Monty are higher (expecially if he uses his MM powers or the Lotus Blade). . .she won't quit until she's possibly.. well dead (that is all considering the fact that she's out dfor revenge). Now, on her usual case. . she's not stupid. I'm sure Shego knows of Monty's capabilities.. and, well, insanity. . .and I doubt she's willing to die for like.. say, to conquer the world (even though it may be one of her greatest desires). She was somewhat afriad of Drakken when she first met him... but learned he was a big softy and no threat. Monty, on the other hand, would be a threat.... But also.. when would this ever really happen?? Aside from the eppy "Babysitting Rufus" (but no critical fighting was going on there)....when would they really fight to the death sorta sitch?? I still don't see the comet powers being anywhere near the MMP. There a reason why the artifacts were probably hidden after all. Anyway why would they fight. 1. In series it would be over an artifact. It wouldn't be a fight to the death and I doubt Monkey Fist would be allowed to win here. Think more comic relief after all. 2. In serious if they were real mode which is the point of this thread it could be for a number of reasons. Revenge, over artifacts, or just butting heads over an objective. Shego may even try to save Kim from Monkey Fist. Its possible since I see her relationship with Kim like a big sister and little sister thing. I think Shego a lot more protective of 'kimmie' then we are allowed to see. What we all know to be true is that it would be an interesting fight. Big booms and flashes after all.
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Post by afgncaap5 on Dec 10, 2005 3:56:00 GMT -5
Shego's only real saving grace here is that she's more level-headed. Keep in mind, Shego's essentially an even match for Kim, and Kim couldn't stop Monkey Fist when he stole the artifact from her while disguised as a ninja (admittedly he wasn't truly *fighting*, but still).
Assuming Shego can distract Monkey Fist, then there's a possibility that she'd win. But in a serious competition, no holds barred, I'd give it to Monkey Fist three-fifths of the time.
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Post by Alexlayer on Aug 3, 2008 17:49:41 GMT -5
Shego would have Monty's monkeys running away with their tails on fire. MF? Ending up in the hospital will be the most merciful ending for him.
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Post by Li on Aug 6, 2008 13:50:28 GMT -5
I choose Monkey Fist. In a one to one fight he would shown his real potential. Shego never really practise Martial Arts, she's to lazy. In the end Zen will win. Aka Monkey Fist! (yeah, and I do like him th ebest, and? ^^ . Not that Shego isn't a good fighter. But what should she do against Miystical Monkey Power in its full form? Nothing.
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Post by The Yetimonster on Aug 6, 2008 14:29:28 GMT -5
Which episode was it where Duff Killigan, Monkey Fist, and Shego were all after the same little doodad?
I seem to recall the same thing would happen each time. Shego would handle Monkey Fist and take the trinket, then Killigan would knock Shego down and take the trinket, and then Monkey Fist would make Killigan look like a fool. Repeat as necessary.
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Post by Dippy on Aug 6, 2008 15:10:09 GMT -5
I believe that would be Adventures In Rufus-Sitting.
In pure hand-to-hand combat I'd go for Monty. Shego possesses both knowledge and skills in martial arts, but a Kung-Fu Master she is not.
If she's able to use her plasma powers, though, that would tip the scale in her favour.
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Post by GT on Aug 6, 2008 22:54:24 GMT -5
Monkey Fist. Four very flexible limbs are better than two.
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Post by lecter on Aug 7, 2008 4:50:06 GMT -5
I choose Monty. Experience is always helpful. Plus in season 4 he fought Kim evenly and never lost.
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Post by Firelady Nemo on Aug 8, 2008 16:51:40 GMT -5
actually, you guys bring up very good points, but let us not forget that in ASIT, shego used her common sence to tak over the world, while the others just stood around like blobs. shego thinks way better than he does, but MMP ownes anyone, so his only fair match, really, would be ron. without MMP shego would win easily. thinking skills come in handy. MF is all hit without plan, if the fight went on long enough, i think shego could think of something tricky to do.
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Post by ivyblossom on Aug 19, 2008 7:46:05 GMT -5
I voted Shego. But Monkey Fist has definitively strength and power, no doubt. I think, Shego just has more experience, even if it's very small, since she has already fought with Team Go.
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