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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Dec 21, 2005 16:52:17 GMT -5
Anyway a lot of people seem to think Drakken is just an adorable ball of fuzz that is no way a evil guy. Awww... Drakken's an 'adorable ball of fuzz'... heheh Cough wrong topic cough lol. Any ways yes Draken is sweet, he's so cool and cute I agree. Let's keep on topic though people lol. Miss Piratess that could be true, maybe Ron really is jealous of Kim. I love how evil Ron's a genius it's cool.
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Post by surforst on Dec 21, 2005 20:57:58 GMT -5
Much agreed. As surforst was saying, yes, he certainly is of the criminal mind and nature... but I don't think this means he's evil. I think he's sulking, and he takes out those feelings in terrorist-like ways. As for Dark Ron... I was thinking... is Dark Ron a manifestation of any negative emotions Ron might be feeling? I mean, he is a most excellent villain. Could Ron perhaps be subconsciously jealous of Kim's "saving the world" bit? We do see him on occasion manifest a bit of machoism. Or am I reading way too much into this? ;D Let's face facts. Drakken has cause a lot of suffering around the world with his actions. He has put vital research behind and has caused massive real state damage. I'm ignoring the possibility of death since it is Disney. We can assume he avoided this bit. With all that said it doesn't matter if he's throwing a fit. He's still a little Hitler wanna be who will enslave people and force them to do what he wants. That's called evil no matter how you look at it. Though I do admit he's a funny sort of evil. Anyway back on topic. Is Dark Ron a manifestation of some of Ron's darker feelings. Yes I do believe he is. He's probably slightly jealous of Kim though to a lesser extent then he is angry at the world. Kim after all treats him decently with the only occasional emotional slap in the face. The rest of the world considers him a loser and can't even remember his name. Heck they can't even remember that Kim has a sidekick sometimes. That would drive anyone to evil and the fact that it took a machine to do it shows how much Ron actually wants to be a hero. That doesn't mean though he's not bottling the stuff up. I think we saw a little bit of that burst out during Bad boy. Kind of scary to think what would happen if he went real evil.
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Post by Sorsha on Dec 21, 2005 21:35:09 GMT -5
Let's face facts. Drakken has cause a lot of suffering around the world with his actions. He has put vital research behind and has caused massive real state damage. I'm ignoring the possibility of death since it is Disney. We can assume he avoided this bit. With all that said it doesn't matter if he's throwing a fit. He's still a little Hitler wanna be who will enslave people and force them to do what he wants. That's called evil no matter how you look at it. Though I do admit he's a funny sort of evil. Yet he's never been able to go through with anything, so none of this can be proved. It seems to me he's all about the quest for power--who knows what he would do if he actually ever acheived it? Is Dark Ron a manifestation of some of Ron's darker feelings. Yes I do believe he is. He's probably slightly jealous of Kim though to a lesser extent then he is angry at the world. Kim after all treats him decently with the only occasional emotional slap in the face. The rest of the world considers him a loser and can't even remember his name. Heck they can't even remember that Kim has a sidekick sometimes. That would drive anyone to evil and the fact that it took a machine to do it shows how much Ron actually wants to be a hero. That doesn't mean though he's not bottling the stuff up. I think we saw a little bit of that burst out during Bad boy. Kind of scary to think what would happen if he went real evil. Imagine how much attention and glory he would have if he did take over the world-- or even attempted again on a more noticeable scale (besides the nacos).
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Post by bigpenguin on Dec 21, 2005 21:36:07 GMT -5
I like dark Ron and I agree with Surforst's Dark Ron idea. As to Drakken being evil, can you name me someone who is positively evil?
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Dec 21, 2005 22:14:21 GMT -5
I like dark Ron and I agree with Surforst's Dark Ron idea. As to Drakken being evil, can you name me someone who is positively evil? Monkey Fist...But he's all for the monkeys. But I happen to think Monkey Fist is a little more evil than Draken. No offense to the Draken fans of course. I mean I'm a Draken fan too lol. In fact I like how Draken's sort of good and sort of evil at the same time. Ask for the dark Ron topic I like the way you guys and girls think. It would be so cool if evil Ron came back and actually tried to take over the world. I think if he did try to do that, he would achieve his goal.
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Post by drakkenfan on Dec 21, 2005 23:47:41 GMT -5
But in the end it was Drakken who defeated Evil Ron... so doesn't that make Drakken the more capable one?
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Post by surforst on Dec 22, 2005 0:10:25 GMT -5
But in the end it was Drakken who defeated Evil Ron... so doesn't that make Drakken the more capable one? No.
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Post by aridblue on Dec 22, 2005 12:10:14 GMT -5
But in the end it was Drakken who defeated Evil Ron... so doesn't that make Drakken the more capable one? Sorry, but Drakken didn't defeat Evil Ron. Here is my definition of defeat: Ron: Taking over the world is one thing, but you ruined Bueno Nacho, You're gonna pay. Drakken: You can't be serious Ron: Note, Serious face! Drakken: Please! Uh, name-escapes-me, I beg of you! Ron: Say my name... Say it! Drakken: Ummm, it's... uhh, unh, Stoppable! (Dramatic music in background ) Ron: Booyah. Here, my friends, is a classic case of Ron defeating Drakken. Now, my sixty-four thousand dollar questions are, did Drakken ever corner Ron before? Did Drakken ever force Ron to say his name? Did Drakken ever build a plasma catapult that powerful as in Bad Boy? Did Drakken even bring Ron to his knees, begging for mercy? And last and most importantly, did Drakken ever succeed in whatever he does? Who's the best man now? (That's rhetorical, don't answer it) Booyahahahaha! PS. Don't take me too seriously today.
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Dec 22, 2005 14:46:56 GMT -5
But in the end it was Drakken who defeated Evil Ron... so doesn't that make Drakken the more capable one? Yah no sorry lol. Ron was just looking the other way when Draken took Ron on by surprise. If dark Ron had been looking that way I think Ron would have been more prepared to take Draken down. After all he did take defeat Kim Possible, which Draken could not do lol. Man do I hope Dark Ron returns in season four. But yah Draken is still cool.
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Post by drakkenfan on Dec 22, 2005 14:51:14 GMT -5
But in the end it was Drakken who defeated Evil Ron... so doesn't that make Drakken the more capable one? Sorry, but Drakken didn't defeat Evil Ron. Here is my definition of defeat: Ron: Taking over the world is one thing, but you ruined Bueno Nacho, You're gonna pay. Drakken: You can't be serious Ron: Note, Serious face! Drakken: Please! Uh, name-escapes-me, I beg of you! Ron: Say my name... Say it! Drakken: Ummm, it's... uhh, unh, Stoppable! (Dramatic music in background ) Ron: Booyah. Here, my friends, is a classic case of Ron defeating Drakken. Now, my sixty-four thousand dollar questions are, did Drakken ever corner Ron before? Did Drakken ever force Ron to say his name? Did Drakken ever build a plasma catapult that powerful as in Bad Boy? Did Drakken even bring Ron to his knees, begging for mercy? And last and most importantly, did Drakken ever succeed in whatever he does? Who's the best man now? (That's rhetorical, don't answer it) Booyahahahaha! PS. Don't take me too seriously today. Yes, Drakken beat Ron big-time in Ron Millionaire. He stole all of Ron's millions of dollars and completely got away with it. Ron was all sad too. heheh
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Post by surforst on Dec 22, 2005 16:08:12 GMT -5
Yes, Drakken beat Ron big-time in Ron Millionaire. He stole all of Ron's millions of dollars and completely got away with it. Ron was all sad too. heheh Got us there. In a fight though Drakken can't win so he only managed to take Bad Boy down because Kim acted as a distraction. We also all know what would have happened if the helmet failed. It would not have been nice for Drakken to say the least.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Dec 22, 2005 19:18:32 GMT -5
Dark Ron capabilities (and when I say Dark Ron, I mean Ron) greatly surpass all of the other characters. Drakken never defeated Dark Ron, he simply followed Wade's instructions.
Ron, unlike Drakken, thinks his plans in great detail, and when he creates a plan, he doesn't simply hope that anyone will ruin it, he manipulates his enemies, just like what he made to Kim.
Dark Ron is shown as the only realistic villian, since the doesn't act like the other villians do, I mean they don't put enough effort to it. But Dark Ron does that.
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Post by bigpenguin on Dec 22, 2005 19:44:42 GMT -5
"...Dark Ron is shown as the only realistic villian..." I'm sure all realistic villains demand the world's supply of nacos.
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Dec 22, 2005 20:27:07 GMT -5
"...Dark Ron is shown as the only realistic villian..." I'm sure all realistic villains demand the world's supply of nacos. Err um yes but at least his plan pretty much worked. That means if Dark Ron wanted to take over the world he would be able to.
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Dec 22, 2005 20:32:19 GMT -5
Dark Ron capabilities (and when I say Dark Ron, I mean Ron) greatly surpass all of the other characters. Drakken never defeated Dark Ron, he simply followed Wade's instructions. Ron, unlike Drakken, thinks his plans in great detail, and when he creates a plan, he doesn't simply hope that anyone will ruin it, he manipulates his enemies, just like what he made to Kim. Dark Ron is shown as the only realistic villian, since the doesn't act like the other villians do, I mean they don't put enough effort to it. But Dark Ron does that. Ha there you are I wondered when you'd be joining my topic. I'm a big Dark Ron fan myself so I decided to make this topic for all Dark Ron fans to talk in. Any ways yah I agree with every thing you just said.
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Post by surforst on Dec 22, 2005 21:26:14 GMT -5
Dark Ron capabilities (and when I say Dark Ron, I mean Ron) greatly surpass all of the other characters. Drakken never defeated Dark Ron, he simply followed Wade's instructions. Ron, unlike Drakken, thinks his plans in great detail, and when he creates a plan, he doesn't simply hope that anyone will ruin it, he manipulates his enemies, just like what he made to Kim. Dark Ron is shown as the only realistic villian, since the doesn't act like the other villians do, I mean they don't put enough effort to it. But Dark Ron does that. I don't know I think we see something else with Ron that we don't see with other villains. He has a sick sense of humor. Think about it. How useful is it to take the time to build a decoy WMD. It just screws with the heroes mind in the end and that's why I like the guy. He reminds me of what I'd like to be as a villain. Make crazy demands and in general just have fun. That's the life.
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Post by Ashfangirl20 on Dec 23, 2005 2:05:31 GMT -5
Dark Ron capabilities (and when I say Dark Ron, I mean Ron) greatly surpass all of the other characters. Drakken never defeated Dark Ron, he simply followed Wade's instructions. Ron, unlike Drakken, thinks his plans in great detail, and when he creates a plan, he doesn't simply hope that anyone will ruin it, he manipulates his enemies, just like what he made to Kim. Dark Ron is shown as the only realistic villain, since the doesn't act like the other villains do, I mean they don't put enough effort to it. But Dark Ron does that. I don't know I think we see something else with Ron that we don't see with other villains. He has a sick sense of humor. Think about it. How useful is it to take the time to build a decoy WMD. It just screws with the heroes mind in the end and that's why I like the guy. He reminds me of what I'd like to be as a villain. Make crazy demands and in general just have fun. That's the life. Yah I mean I like him because; 1. He took Shego on by surprise {Some thing which Draken has never been able to do.} 2. All of his inventions rock! 3. His plans always seem to work. 4. He seems one step a head of his appoints. 5. I like his evil laugh ha. 6. He's a genius. The reasons you named are good too. I also said before in earlier reply that because Ron's plan with naco's nearly worked that means if he wanted to take over the world he would be able to. He just rocks, god I hope he returns, if he does than he shall take over the world muhahah.
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Post by surforst on Dec 23, 2005 2:57:47 GMT -5
I don't see Ron going evil again myself but maybe they'll give us a clone of Ron turned evil. Same personality and intelligence just twisted towards evil. Good Ron vs Evil Ron. Its the fight of the century. Of course poor Kim would have to be rushed to the hospital after she had a heartattack. I don't think the girl heart could stand the pitter patter it would be going through with two Ron's in the room. After all if I understand the fangirls right, which I don't but I'll pretend otherwise, both good Ron and evil Ron are the 'hot stuff' as you kids say these days. Wacky teenagers.
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Post by aridblue on Dec 23, 2005 4:28:09 GMT -5
It would be hilarious with the heart attack. And surforst, you aren't the only one. Barkin seems to agree with you on the "wacky teenagers" point.
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Post by surforst on Dec 23, 2005 12:48:38 GMT -5
It would be hilarious with the heart attack. And surforst, you aren't the only one. Barkin seems to agree with you on the "wacky teenagers" point. Of all the charactes in the series I most identify with Drakken and Barkin. Barkin the most in the end though I do have that frustration thing going. Both me and Barkin though got the serious thing going on. That and making slackers lives horrible. God help you if I catch you! Anyway I'm still debating if a clone of Ron would be Kim dream come true. I know the fangirls out there would faint from excitement but what about our little Kimmie. It's one of those questions for the ages I guess.
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