KP: The way of the Badge

[Ezbok58a]

recon228 said:

ezbok58a said:

I figured that initially, but I always loved how the shotgun was mounted to the dashboard, which was very intimidating.

Unfortunately, the dash-mounted gun locks were also extremely dangerous to officers if they were in a collision. We studied several cases in the academy that involved officers in the passenger seat being impaled by their shotguns and rifles. Because of that, most departments now mount them either between the front seats, above their heads, or in the trunk.

Ouch, guess that's a double edged sword. The reasons I got from some was that with the introduction of dual front airbags the ability to place the shotgun on the dashboard was lost, unless they wanted the Airbag to blast the shotgun into the officer that was sitting in the seat.

On the story side, I've toned down the ineptness of the Middleton PD when Ron and Kim try out for them, now it will be three cases of officer screw ups instead of my list of 10 (didn't want to go overboard with it) and some numerous hardass Cops that are on a 24/7 ego trip.

recon and T Anderson should know what I mean by Cops on a Ego trip (my uncles dealt with a few so have a few of my friends, so I know that they are out there)

The Middleton PD experience will be the case of a few bad apples ruining the experience. Just a FYI.

Thanks again to recon and T Anderson on their help with this story.

I should have the next chapter up soon.

[recon228]

ezbok58a said:

recon228 said:

Unfortunately, the dash-mounted gun locks were also extremely dangerous to officers if they were in a collision. We studied several cases in the academy that involved officers in the passenger seat being impaled by their shotguns and rifles. Because of that, most departments now mount them either between the front seats, above their heads, or in the trunk.

Ouch, guess that's a double edged sword. The reasons I got from some was that with the introduction of dual front airbags the ability to place the shotgun on the dashboard was lost, unless they wanted the Airbag to blast the shotgun into the officer that was sitting in the seat.

That's exactly what was happening; a two-man unit would get into a collision, and the dash-mounted gun would be turned into a projectile.

My old department up in Mendocino County almost lost an officer years back (Early 90's) when he flipped his cruiser and was stabbed in the chest by the muzzle of his AR-15. His Kevlar helped to reduce some injury, but he still had to undergo surgery.

[Ezbok58a]

Wow, glad he survived that.

I should have chapter 4 up by about Tuesday night, I've been forced to push the MPD experience back a chapter because of continuity (How they actually get into Police work, as I myself have a hard time trying to believe that it's the first thing to come to them.)

But after about chapter 5 or so it will be back into their days on the job, including alot of little things associated with the job.

Plus it gave me a chance for some ever crucial back story for one later important character.

[Ezbok58a]

Well, Chapter 4 is up. Now I wonder why I am even bothering continuing this as Ch4 is by far the worst chapter I've written.

I'll let the experts decide as this story is still on life support. Although I now can focus on what parts of the story that are actually planned out now so there is still hope.

www.fanfiction.net/s/2611817/4/

[taechunsa]

Well, I finally got around to reading this one. It is pretty good.

So far I haven't seen a lot in the way of the pacing and flow problems that I noticed in "Horrors of War". Just be sure not to rush it.

While I questioned what Dr. Director did. I can't honestly say that I disbelieve it either. It is almost too true that you are the hero when you win and the scapegoat when you don't. Plausible deniability, what a crock.

What about chapter 4 did you not like? Have you given it to someone else, along with your concerns, to see if they might have a different perspective or appraoch? Sometimes this helps.

Anyway, this is a good start to the story.

[Ezbok58a]

The problem I had with chapter 4 was really the whole part from Mr. Barkin's office where they get the folders, up till they get the jobs at MPD.

To me it felt like I was writting the exact same thing that recon228 wrote when Kim went on the interview, and I hate it when it seems like I'm copying something someone else did.

Now that I read it a few times it fits into the story pretty well, but it still feels like I just copied recons word for word.

Although I keep having that feeling as we are both writting police flicks, there is bound to be some kind of overlaping between the two.

Next chapter, The two face the problems associated with the Middleton PD. Officer mishaps and big headiness aplenty!!

[Ezbok58a]

Ok now for the complaining of actual officers and police supporters.
Chapter 5 is finished and is now up.

Anonomus review is now on as well (don't know how I missed that) So please pick away!

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[T Anderson]

Overall this chapter was pretty good.

The corruption/ineptitude of the Middleton PD was a little bit excessive, but not ridiculously so. Everything you had in there was possible, the only thing I personally disagree with would be their ability to screw up so frequently without being shut-down by the city council. Raiding the wrong house has happened before, but it's very rare and results in a tremendous ammount of public out-cry. Doing it several times...on the same house...would get the entire department fired!

The other thing I wanted to point out as an FYI is that the way our duty holsters are designed makes it impossible to access or pull the trigger while the gun is still in its holster. The only accidential discharge I've ever heard of involving a holster involved an officer in California who's pistol snagged on the thumb-strap of his holster while he was reholstering and discharged. Even in that situation, he was carrying an old .45 Colt 1911, which is notorious for having a hair-trigger.

Other than that the story is progressing nicely, keep up the good work

[Ezbok58a]

Yeah, I figured having them raid the same wrong house a coulple times would be funny ;D

The holster thing I got over the years mostly from California departments, Including the LAPD (who is trying to ban its officers from using the Glock 21 because of misfires) I had to play around with it a bit, but the overall feel is pretty much what I wanted.

Now the link you provided for me is going to be used, as their training comes into play, as well as why they end up working together instead of being split up.

[taechunsa]

Good chapter. A few spelling errors here and there, but nothing too major.

[recon228]

ezbok58a said:

The holster thing I got over the years mostly from California departments, Including the LAPD (who is trying to ban its officers from using the Glock 21 because of misfires)

Actually, the issue LAPD is having with their 21's is exactly the opposite... they're occasionally experiencing 'light-strikes' while practicing at the range. A light-strike occurs when the firing pin fails to strike the primer hard enough and the gun fails to fire.

The only accidental discharge I've ever heard of involving a holster involved an officer in California who's pistol snagged on the thumb-strap of his holster while he was re-holstering and discharged. Even in that situation, he was carrying an old .45 Colt 1911, which is notorious for having a hair-trigger.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Trooper Anderson was referring to the Concord and San Jose police departments up here in the San Francisco Bay Area... they were notorious for experiencing accidental discharges back in the late 70's/early 80's. With the Black Panthers and Weather Underground right over the hill in Oakland, many Concord PD officers began carrying their Vietnam-issue .45's on duty 'cocked-and-locked' for added firepower. Because of the 1911's hair-trigger, however, many officers who were used to the heavier pull of their revolvers began firing rounds off all over the place (Particularly in the station locker room).

I remember learning about two incidences surrounding the 1911; one funny, and one tragic...

The funny story occurred shortly after one of the Concord PD captains drafted up a new policy mandating a two-week suspension for any personnel who accidentally discharged their firearms. That same captain went to use the bathroom at the station and, for whatever reason, hung his .45 from a coat hook on the toilet stall. The 1911 discharged, spun around in a circle, discharged again, and continued that cycle until all eight rounds had been fired into the floor, wall, and ceiling. Fortunately, no one was hurt.

Needless to say, that captain ended up taking a two-week unpaid vacation...

The other incident involved a San Jose PD detective who was walking out to his car in the station parking lot when he dropped some papers on the ground. When he bent down to pick them up, his 1911 fell out of his shoulder holster, struck the ground butt-first, and discharged; striking him in the head and killing him.

[Ezbok58a]

recon228 said:

ezbok58a said:

The holster thing I got over the years mostly from California departments, Including the LAPD (who is trying to ban its officers from using the Glock 21 because of misfires)

Actually, the issue LAPD is having with their 21's is exactly the opposite... they're occasionally experiencing 'light-strikes' while practicing at the range. A light-strike occurs when the firing pin fails to strike the primer hard enough and the gun fails to fire.

I'm not surprised that the news article I got that from failed to mention that. Stupid liberal news

I should have the next chapter up this weekend, I've come to the conclusion that this is going to be a lONG story, after their training it will go right to their days on the job. Including some calls that I know troopers (and officers alike) Never want to hear come through the radio.

One last thing to ask Anderson, Does the CSP have a helicopter, and if they do ( I would be surprised if they didn't) What is the call sign for it.

I was originally going to call it Condor 1, but I'll go for accuracy in this part.

[T Anderson]

ezbok58a said:

One last thing to ask Anderson, Does the CSP have a helicopter, and if they do ( I would be surprised if they didn't) What is the call sign for it.

I was originally going to call it Condor 1, but I'll go for accuracy in this part.

Actually, the Colorado State Patrol doesn't have any choppers. We have an air unit, but they're all single and twin-engine prop planes.

When we do need a helicopter, we usually call one from either the local police (Depending on the size of the city), or the county sheriff's dept. Their call-signs tend to vary, but usually they just use either Air-1, or H-1...

[Ezbok58a]

Thanks. You guys really have to rely on other departments if you need a chopper?

Didn't know that.

[Ezbok58a]

Update!

It is sad for me to say, that this story has again been pushed aside by me.

I am temporarily abandoning this story, to focus on the stories that have kept myself very busy over the last few weeks.

I will return to finish this story, its just not going to be anytime soon.

Here is the full report

www.fanfiction.net/s/2611817/6/

[Ezbok58a]

It's AlIVE, ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!


I've had this thing on hold for too long, now let me actually get this thing finished.

www.fanfiction.net/s/2611817/6/

[Ezbok58a]

Ugh, this story it taking longer to develop than I like, but still, chapter 7

www.fanfiction.net/s/2611817/7/