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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Sept 25, 2007 19:39:56 GMT -5
We were waiting for you.
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Post by Slyrr on Sept 25, 2007 19:45:29 GMT -5
Well ya see the thing is, they're both spelled and pronounced differently....  |
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Post by yvj on Sept 25, 2007 19:55:27 GMT -5
I just can't stand it when people clearly care more for writing their own plot than staying true to the characters and the universe. Though it is possible to have Kim and Ron stay true to themselves while completely changing the world around them. At least I think so |
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 25, 2007 19:59:55 GMT -5
I just can't stand it when people clearly care more for writing their own plot than staying true to the characters and the universe. I agree with you here. Another good point by scout. Though it is possible to have Kim and Ron stay true to themselves while completely changing the world around them. At least I think so Yes it is ok to me as long as the fundamentals that MBS state are still in the story. Fundamentals as in the relationships the charecters have with each other, the statements that K/R will never break up and they will be together forever, The statements that they go to the same college together, and etc.. I don't see anything wrong with adding OCs or Having new buildings built, Having dramatic storylines, Create new layers, and plenty of other things as long as have MBS fundamentals in the story. Some People think my view would restrict from a lot of things but honestly I don't see it. I just don't know why it's so hard to keep the basics in a story. K/R together forever, Them in the same college, and various other little things. Theres so much more you can put it a story. |
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Post by Mickey on Sept 25, 2007 21:55:05 GMT -5
Well ya see the thing is, they're both spelled and pronounced differently.... They are? |
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Post by Slyrr on Sept 26, 2007 0:12:38 GMT -5
Cannon has an additional "N"... Some people pronounce 'canon' more like 'kay-nun' rather than 'can-un', though I think both are considered OK - rather like how some people pronounce coupon 'Kyoo-pon' instead of 'coo-pon'....
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Post by mike on Sept 26, 2007 5:50:55 GMT -5
I just can't stand it when people clearly care more for writing their own plot than staying true to the characters and the universe. Though it is possible to have Kim and Ron stay true to themselves while completely changing the world around them. At least I think so Well I try to write close to canon, but I always ending up writing a little too much K/R, so yeah. A little change in their world won't hurt abit  |
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Post by yvj on Sept 26, 2007 14:16:29 GMT -5
So I've got to ask (since I have one) what's general consensus on period pieces? I.E Kim and Ron living in different eras of time
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 26, 2007 15:30:21 GMT -5
So I've got to ask (since I have one) what's general consensus on period pieces? I.E Kim and Ron living in different eras of time I mean i think CaptainKodaks was fine when he had K/R go back in time. He kept it close to Canon in everyway he could imo. If you mean like seriously having them in different eras then as long as you mention it's AU i have no problem with it. It's just for the majority i want it to be really close to canon. |
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Post by eclogite on Sept 26, 2007 16:05:43 GMT -5
... I'm dissapointed in this thread. Two pages and not a single cannon joke....for shame... Here ya go and it features a ship, too  |
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Post by Luke Danger on Sept 26, 2007 17:20:35 GMT -5
... I'm dissapointed in this thread. Two pages and not a single cannon joke....for shame... Here ya go and it features a ship, too LOL on that, actually I got a cannon joke STORY! Me grandfather was on a Destroyer, durring the Koren war, and they were shellin' the North Korens, well, he walked onto the deck, and said aloud 'We arn't hitting anything, they're just working out there!', then the skipper came out and said 'Say that again?' so he did, so the skipper called up the CANNON leader and a CANNON gunner and told them to fire Phospourus out of the CANNONS every third shot, and my granddad would watch to see how good they'd be doing. After the third shot, the skipp asked my granddad how they were doing, and he said 'They're running like hell!', then, he had the CANNON gunners fire phosorus every fifth shot, after a while the skip asked again, and my graddad said 'They're all gone!' Sorry, just begging to be told. |
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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Sept 26, 2007 18:44:51 GMT -5
So I've got to ask (since I have one) what's general consensus on period pieces? I.E Kim and Ron living in different eras of time I believe it can be done, if they keep to the characters. |
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Post by maetch on Sept 26, 2007 18:50:45 GMT -5
While on the subject of cannon jokes:
Don Karnage: Fire at will! (An offscreen Air Pirate shoots a gun) No no no! Not at "Will"! Will is my second mate! I meant FIRE AT THE SEA DUCK!!!
~TaleSpin
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Post by eclogite on Sept 27, 2007 7:59:20 GMT -5
LOL on that, actually I got a cannon joke STORY! Me grandfather was on a Destroyer, durring the Koren war, and they were shellin' the North Korens, well, he walked onto the deck, and said aloud 'We arn't hitting anything, they're just working out there!', then the skipper came out and said 'Say that again?' so he did, so the skipper called up the CANNON leader and a CANNON gunner and told them to fire Phospourus out of the CANNONS every third shot, and my granddad would watch to see how good they'd be doing. After the third shot, the skipp asked my granddad how they were doing, and he said 'They're running like hell!', then, he had the CANNON gunners fire phosorus every fifth shot, after a while the skip asked again, and my graddad said 'They're all gone!' Sorry, just begging to be told. WP will definitely get someone's attention, though we use red phosphorus now, since it's a bit more stable in storage. Do you happen to know which destroyer he was on? On the canon thing, while I don't read much of it (bad initial experiences with characters so radically redrawn as to be unrecognizeable), I see it as a springboard for authors. One has the basic persdonality traits for the characters and the backstory (well, some of it) for them, after that it's up to the author to create a coherent story. AU and changes in thigs are fine, as long as it is presented in a plausible fashion with a reasonably logical series of supporting events. As an example, Kim and Shego becoming friends or working together can be made to work as long as it's not some sort of deal where they just magically start to like one another. I have had a number of friends who have had the sort of sarcastic banter that the two of them exchange, it's quite common in the military, probably because it's a means of relieving stress. Consequently I view canon as a basis for developing characters and stories rather than as an iron clad dictum. Here's another cannon (this one was at Fort Story, Virginia)  |
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Sept 27, 2007 11:08:01 GMT -5
The importance of Canon? It's the bible for character relationships. I think it's so important as such, I started a club for people who only ship canon ships!  |
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Post by eclogite on Sept 27, 2007 11:33:49 GMT -5
That could be a factor in how one views the importance of it.
If one is concerned about relationships, especially romantic entanglements, then canon is probably of far greater importance than to those who are less or dis- interested in such aspects of a story or show.
If it was necessary or desireable to pair up characters I would far prefer them to go out with a wide range of other people, first, one is an awfully small sample size to be basing anything on.
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 27, 2007 13:07:49 GMT -5
The importance of Canon? It's the bible for character relationships. I think it's so important as such, I started a club for people who only ship canon ships! ROTFL..... That's awesome. i'll join that group when i get home later. It's not only the Bible, It's Fundamental. Interesting debate going on here. www.fanfiction.net/topic/36496/2933461/1/ |
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Post by mrjl on Sept 29, 2007 21:40:33 GMT -5
I prefer stories that stick to canon. If it could be turned into an episode of the show I'll probably like it. It might be deeper than an ep, but it still wouldn't contradict things.
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Post by mrjl on Sept 29, 2007 21:46:10 GMT -5
Well ya see the thing is, they're both spelled and pronounced differently.... They're pronounced differently? |
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Post by Guru Mandi (will return) on Sept 29, 2007 22:29:48 GMT -5
I have to say that I am a canon shipper, so I'll (of course) pay more attention to canon. but I've read other ships (such as KiGo) in fanfics that were very good! My take on the sitch it: If a story is well-written but is not canon (in relation to ships) then I don't mind it.
But when a story is going waaaaay out there and almost has nothing to do with the actual show at all? I think its time to do some revising.
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