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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 25, 2007 16:07:16 GMT -5
Now that i have seen the full episode i mean so many great K/R moments but still the almost kisses straight out have me "Bugging". I mean great comments when they first arrive at the spa, The sitting on the same side of the both, The Blow Kiss, The Almost Kisses are great but it makes me mad because they dont finish as much as i hope we dont see more interuptions of kisses i bet we see a lot more and it ticks me off, Well also got the Holding Hands Sunset Walking going to there date and the great out of this world comment by kim. So All in All You know for sure if you are a casual viewer that they are dating now. I wish i could have gave it a 5/5 but that wade interupting killed the 5 and made it a 4 for me.
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Post by eddieursa on Feb 25, 2007 16:07:42 GMT -5
An observation: Don't you think that the alien technology of Warmonga looked like enough to the one which appears in the series of "Lilo & Stitch"?. The shackles that Shego had in the hands and feet in this episode reminded me a lot to the ones that have been used in the series of "Lilo & Stitch" several times. Hamstervile, Stitch, Jumba and another characters of this series have appeared several times with those same shackles.
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Post by fazhou on Feb 25, 2007 16:42:47 GMT -5
An observation: Don't you think that the alien technology of Warmonga looked like enough to the one which appears in the series of "Lilo & Stitch"?. The shackles that Shego had in the hands and feet in this episode reminded me a lot to the ones that have been used in the series of "Lilo & Stitch" several times. Hamstervile, Stitch, Jumba and another characters of this series have appeared several times with those same shackles. It looks like they're doing a lot of Disney self-parody this season (see my observation in the Grande Size Me review thread). I should check the eps again and see if there are more of these to pick up on.
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Post by Dinogaby on Feb 25, 2007 16:59:17 GMT -5
I expected this episode to be cooler, but still I thought it was nice. I mean, I just didn’t laugh as much as I did with the other new episodes. I still think The Cupid Effect tops the list of the new eps so far. The whole prison sequence at the beginning was pretty funny (Drakken and Lucre playing checkers and all that) and the fist encounter between Drakken and Warmonga was hilarious. I enjoyed the hug and kiss part! Lol ;D Omg! Just like a Drakken fangirl would do! *SO wants to be in Warmonga’s place now!* Now, as for the D/S stuff, I guess it depends on how you see it. Shego obviously didn’t like Warmonga taking her place as Drakken’s sidekick, but then on the other hand, why didn’t Shego come back to Drakken earlier? Maybe she just wanted to have some free time (or “vacations” as she calls it) without Drakken before coming back to him? Well anyway, there was this funny, sorta shippy, jealous/angry exchange between Drakken and Shego when she comes back to the lair and sees Warmonga for the first time. I loved this sequence... It was just like 4 seconds of animation, but I loved how Drakken and Shego seemed to bond of a second, but then right away Drakken remembers how Shego wasn’t loyal to him for not breaking him out of prison, so he scowls at her... that was CUTE! And sorta shippy The whole lair sequence had some funny parts with Drakken and Shego provoking and tauting each other about the sidekick and break-out-of-prison thing. That could be considered kinda shippy. I just hope that they get back to work together again! The show isn’t the same without them. And I’m not talking just about the D/S shippiness, I mean, I want the Shego sassyness and the Drakken ranting... I want that back! NOW! On other stuff, gawd this episode had SO much Kigo on it... “Next time we battle you’re mine Kimmie” ?? wtf? O.o And... best quote sequence ever!:
Shego: Like you could ever handle Kimmie without me! Drakken: Ooohh! I think somebody is jealous! Shego: Hey I’m just sticking around to see the cheerleader kick your great blue... Drakken: SHEGO!!!omg LMAO! ;D ;D ;D *Drakken: “I wonder who’s breaking out Shego this time.” – Poor ickle Drakken! Aww! *Random prison guy: “There’s a green lady out there. She’s looking for you.” I loved that part! And also, the next quote... Drakken *with a smily face*: “Oohh Sheeeego!.... *scowls* it’s about time!” So what does Shego want? Is it all about her relationship with Drakken? Well, she's not busting him out of jail, which wasn't a very D/S shippy thing for her not to do, but maybe it's some other kind of relationship thing. ... Sure, it's very funny to watch Shego try to teach Warmonga how to taunt Drakken, but why exactly is she doing this? It's almost seeming like being able to taunt and find amusement at Drakken's failures was a big part of Shego's motivation for working for him. Yeah I agree there, there were some unclear leads about Shego’s behavior on the ep. It seems like she really doesn’t want to go back with Drakken, but I refuse to believe that, I mean, how on Earth are the creators thinking on splitting the main villain duo of the show??!! *Finally, are we to assume that Drakken escaped at the end? The climax leaves much in doubt...especially the Drakken/Shego relationship. Are they through with each other? Is Shego just wanting a vacation rather than permanent seperation? Or does she simply see Drakken as her quickest path to getting to Kim, with mocking him as a fringe benefit? Will Drakken swallow his pride and beg for her to come back? As I've said before, the state of D/S seems to be a reverse mirror image of K/R -- as our heroes get closer, our villains grow further apart. I’m assuming Shego just wanted some vacation time and somehow was planning to go back by Drakken’s side... but gah yes, I know what you mean, we’re getting a lot of K/R (which is cool) but nothing of D/S! they can’t drift them apart! I'm not really a big D/S shipper but i think it sucks majorly that they didn't get back together. I find Shego a lil weird when shes not hangin with and winding up drakken. Its like those two have the funniest episodes and make a cool kookie team. I SO agree with that... So I guess, my rating... 4/5
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 25, 2007 17:23:22 GMT -5
It would be very interesting if Drakken and Shego split up, I must admit.
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Post by Dinogaby on Feb 25, 2007 17:24:08 GMT -5
It would be very interesting if Drakken and Shego split up, I must admit. we have kinda seen that before... not for too long, but you get the idea
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 25, 2007 17:26:48 GMT -5
Yes, but it seems that we're left without knowing what's next with the Drakken/Shego relationship. Drakken went off somewhere and Shego's off in Greece getting touched by Midas.
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Post by Commander Argus on Feb 25, 2007 17:32:37 GMT -5
Okay, how many long-time Futurama fans were saying "Death by Snu Snu?"
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Post by Ezbok58a on Feb 25, 2007 17:40:29 GMT -5
If you are a Kigo shipper, this ep is going to be the cornerstone of your existance for years to come. MudWrestling? Shego saves Kimmie? Cupcake? I thought they were gonna kiss in the end there. Wow! That only holds true if you blindly believe in Kigo, if you approach everything rationally then this is one of the strongest K/R episodes thus far. Sure they Mudwrestled, but the Kigo thing is not in this episode no matter how much the other side wants to believe there is. Shego goes out of her way to assist Kim in this episode because Warmonga is encroaching on her job. Its Shego's job to fight Kim, its her job to stop Kim. Suddenly this 10 foot alien shows up and starts to do her job better in one day, I'd be pretty pissed off if that happened at my job and I'm sure everyone else would be too. Notice that Shego burns through her restraints right after Dr. Drakken says Warmonga is better than her. The timing of her hit was just the luck of the draw, or she actually waited till Warmonga wasn't defending herself. The bottom line was that Shego wanted to be the only one doing her job, thats why she turned on Drakken, she wanted Warmonga gone for good. And this is another of my favorite episodes thus far!
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Post by yes4possible on Feb 25, 2007 17:50:38 GMT -5
I disagree with the idea that Drakken and Shego need to be back together. They were a great team, and great together. But saying they need each other to be effective characters, is an insult to these two characters.
I think these are the two best characters on the show, they can stand on their own. It is better when they are together, but on their own, the work also. They have their own unique personalties they bring to the show.
I am not that sure of Drakken, but I know Shego is an effective character with or without Drakken. I have to see more of Drakken solo, before I make judgement on that.
About weather or not they are together in "Grandie Size Me", there are parts that give conlficting messages.
They were seated next to each other in the presentation home, could come off to some people the team is back together.
But there is another thing, that indicate they are not back together, and I think more important, Drakken chases after Kim by himself. In the past that job would always go to Shego, Drakken would never soul himself with that action. And when the villains went in their seperate vehicles, I thought I saw Drakken and Shego have seperate rides.
Anyone can seat next to anyone, but in the old days Drakken would never personally attack Kim Possible, he would always just have Shego do it.
In the episode when Drakken tutors Frugal, I would like for him to say "I am done with girl sidekicks, they just don't listen." And mention not just Shego and Warmonga, but the Bebes. "Weather they are humans, aliens, or robots, they don't listen." I love it when they mention episodes from the early seasons. Drakken still has no luck with the ladies going back to college. I feel a little sorry for him.
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Post by VICIOUS on Feb 25, 2007 18:20:49 GMT -5
Okay, how many long-time Futurama fans were saying "Death by Snu Snu?" I already said it like, 4 times xD
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Post by steffrox on Feb 25, 2007 18:21:34 GMT -5
i have to admit that altho i love this show i don't enjoy the episodes with the other Villains (other than Drakken and Shego) as much and if its a different Villain ep i will only really watch it once. But i watch the Drakken shego eps mostly because in my opinion they are the best. I kinda got bored about half way thru two to tutor and that Bebe one i don't know the name off. I just don't think it works as well, Its still good but the best eps are the ones with Drakken and Shego together. And its too weird without that aspect and i think it would be a waste of the 4th series if they didn't at least go a lil bit back to the way they were. I always admired Shego for putting up with him but now i just think she gone a tad weird, still really good but not as great as she was. I'm just saying a few eps here and there where they're alone is fine but to for there ties completely severed is just wrongsick.
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Post by Baroque on Feb 25, 2007 19:03:55 GMT -5
That only holds true if you blindly believe in Kigo, if you approach everything rationally then this is one of the strongest K/R episodes thus far. ...no. Ok, I can't really be 100% objective because I for myself really like the thought of Kim and Shego together (like Kim and Ron together, too). If you like them being together, you have seen it. I think even some "K+R Shippers" have seen it. Not only the mud wrestling, as Dracko said, the cupcake was a huge, much bigger point than the wrestling. Perhaps, if you are a blindly follower of Kim and Ron... For SURE there are many Kim and Ron moments, I mean...they are in a relationship! And they are nice, but still... I'm really wondering if Warmonga's voice is the one of female Altmers...
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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 25, 2007 19:07:37 GMT -5
If you are a Kigo shipper, this ep is going to be the cornerstone of your existance for years to come. MudWrestling? Shego saves Kimmie? Cupcake? I thought they were gonna kiss in the end there. Wow! That only holds true if you blindly believe in Kigo, if you approach everything rationally then this is one of the strongest K/R episodes thus far. Sure they Mudwrestled, but the Kigo thing is not in this episode no matter how much the other side wants to believe there is. Shego goes out of her way to assist Kim in this episode because Warmonga is encroaching on her job. Its Shego's job to fight Kim, its her job to stop Kim. Suddenly this 10 foot alien shows up and starts to do her job better in one day, I'd be pretty -ed off if that happened at my job and I'm sure everyone else would be too. Notice that Shego burns through her restraints right after Dr. Drakken says Warmonga is better than her. The timing of her hit was just the luck of the draw, or she actually waited till Warmonga wasn't defending herself. The bottom line was that Shego wanted to be the only one doing her job, thats why she turned on Drakken, she wanted Warmonga gone for good. And this is another of my favorite episodes thus far! I 100% agree. There was nothing in the episode remotely close to Kigo. Heck if anything you realized how much shego hates kim wanting to be the one to destroy her. I mean Cupcake.......How is that shippy? Schooley basically laughed at the thought at least thats how i took his post in this thread. I mean Kim is not a Lezbian. I mean i watched the episode 4 times and am wondering where this Kigo stuff is coming from. The K/R Moments had to be Top 5 as Dracko said earlier. I mean we got some things a lot of us wanted to see this year. I mean Holding Hands, Blowing Kisses, Sitting on the same side of the Booth at Bueno Nacho, and Yes the almost kisses i hate but they are at least trying to PDA but wades not letting them. I mean they were about to kiss in front of a crowd full of people at the football game. The way kim touched his face and then the smiles they gave each other and the sun set was beautiful. And Kim saying the "Cuter Boyfriends" line was awesome. I mean thats the closest we will probably see to Kim calling Ron HOT this season. Only thing missing was a Kiss. I guess they could not show them making out in the theatres on a disney show. ;D
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Post by Ezbok58a on Feb 25, 2007 19:12:23 GMT -5
That only holds true if you blindly believe in Kigo, if you approach everything rationally then this is one of the strongest K/R episodes thus far. ...no. Ok, I can't really be 100% objective because I for myself really like the thought of Kim and Shego together (like Kim and Ron together, too). If you like them being together, you have seen it. I think even some "K+R Shippers" have seen it. Not only the mud wrestling, as Dracko said, the cupcake was a huge, much bigger point than the wrestling. Perhaps, if you are a blindly follower of Kim and Ron... For SURE there are many Kim and Ron moments, I mean...they are in a relationship! And they are nice, but still... I'm really wondering if Warmonga's voice is the one of female Altmers... I'm sorry if I actually use show given logic while watching this episode to see that there wasn't any Kigo moments in it. You're lead by a false passion that will never happen. K/R is cannon, and is what's happening, unlike Kigo. Have a nice day
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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 25, 2007 19:15:48 GMT -5
I'm sorry if I actually use show given logic while watching this episode to see that there wasn't any Kigo moments in it. You're lead by a false passion that will never happen. K/R is cannon, and is what's happening, unlike Kigo. Have a nice day I 100% agree with you're stance. Co-Sign brother. Whats this Blindly K/R thing people are saying? I mean they are together, TPTB have said they were meant to be together from the beginning and will be together forever. We are not blindly defending something and we are not blindly dissmising anything kigo because theres nothing to dismiss, We are just applying common sense.
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Post by Ezbok58a on Feb 25, 2007 19:16:59 GMT -5
The brain thing is a bit much, how about using show given logic? Yeah that'll work
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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 25, 2007 19:18:23 GMT -5
The brain thing is a bit much, how about using show given logic? Yeah that'll work Exactly. I have nothing against kigo shippers but when they Call out Kim/Ron Shippers i have to respond. We are not blind. I mean thats a blantant flame calling us blind. I am the furthest from a Blind K/R shipper. Heck i have a hard time believing TPTB when they say Kim/Ron will never break up. I really want to believe that 100% but it's hard when im paranoid they will break up. This should proof im not a blind shipper.
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Post by aliciamartin on Feb 25, 2007 19:20:35 GMT -5
yahhhhhhhhh for Gaby's comment i soooooo love gaby when she talks about D/S she always saves my day yahhhhhhhhhh
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Post by Ezbok58a on Feb 25, 2007 19:25:16 GMT -5
The brain thing is a bit much, how about using show given logic? Yeah that'll work Exactly. I have nothing against kigo shippers but when they Call out Kim/Ron Shippers i have to respond. We are not blind. I mean thats a blantant flame calling us blind. Agreed, passion on being blatantly called a liar made me put down the first response. The new way is much better. K/R is cannon as the show dictates, there is only Kigo where the 'viewer' wants Kigo to be. So while to us we don't see Kigo, the Kigo 'worshippers' see every little thing as Kigo, which in my eyes is complete and utter (blank)
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