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Post by Kimron Posstoppable on May 24, 2007 20:17:24 GMT -5
I continue to disagree and rate this one as excellent. I guess some people just want to see a postmodern Kim with her hairdryer and laser lipstick pounding on Shego, and any variation or different ideas is heresy! 22 minutes of your lives wasted? Gonna tape over it with the next episode? Good grief! Watch it again. No way can it be that bad. To me, it was. Maybe you think I'm being harsh, but I will not be watching this ep again in the near future. There are many other eps this season that would be a better way to spend 22 minutes and Cap'n Drakken is not one of them, IMO. The premise of Kim without technology wasn't my issue. That's interesting its own. IIRC, I also said I had no problem with the POTC theme, was expecting it, and was willing to go along with it. As a matter of fact, if one is going to watch and enjoy "Kim Possible", a willingness to go along for the ride is sometimes a must. This time, I have to take a pass. Cap'n Drakken had its moments, but not nearly enough to make me like it as much as many of the other episodes this season so far. It's a shame, because I wanted to like it and had been looking forward to seeing it. Steve Barkin: All right, people, listen up! We've been ordered to do a twenty two minute promo for Pirates of the Caribbean three, so you're gonna spend your senior vacation at a historical village. Kim: Who's going to be the pirate? Ron: Isn't that Pirates of the Caribbean Aye Aye Aye? Kim: Probably Drakken. He has a Caribbean lair. Seriously, I don't care why they did it! Anyway, Pirates and colonials are way more cool than overindulgence in fast food. Not by much. In short, I don't care why it was done either, but I do care how it was done. The class could have just gone on a field trip to learn about the 1800's. I know it was supposed to be funny that the fun-filled senior class trip was ruined, but it didn't make me laugh. Could they have done a two-parter or a whole movie based on this sort of theme and made it better? Should they have made a two-parter or a movie out of this? Heck, no. Could it have been better? Yes, I think so. Oh, sure. Kim is bursting at the seams in nearly every episode. But you know, it's probably better to have plot and character stuffed in tight like Futurama than feel kind of stretched out and empty. What does that even mean? I read that a few times and still can't figure out what Futurama has to do with this. Futurama and Kim Possible are two different shows and are excellent for different reasons. I think you're misunderstanding my basic problems with this ep, Cloud, which are: - The senior class had the rug pulled out from under them yet again and was forced go along with Barkin's apparently unilateral decision. - The living-in-the-1800's class trip went on way too long. - Steve Barkin came off to me as more of a bully rather than a "tough but fair" kind of guy. Enough negativity. This ep was good for the pirate scenes, if nothing else. These scenes were pretty cool: Wish there had been more of that.
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Post by slicknickshady on May 25, 2007 13:18:31 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. This episode is a pain to watch for me. I mean nothing happend. Dr. Drakken did not even know what was going on and what happened during the spell once it was broken. Shego want's to be the one who Kills Kim was already mentioned in Mad Dogs and Aliens. Nothing new was introduced. No K/R. I mean everything was horrid except the "Ron You and I do it on a daily basis" line.
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Post by ScareGlow on May 25, 2007 13:36:18 GMT -5
I liked it overall. It had its weaknesses, mainly that the whole historic town part was shown so long. I liked the music in this one, and Mr. DiMaggio's voice acting was excellent! Obviously, this ep takes place after some sort of reconciliation between Bonnie and Kim/Ron, because otherwise she would certainly not have travelled in the same coach as Kim, Ron and Monique; I liked this less aggressive Bonnie. Of course I would've wished for some K/R moments, but I guess you can't have them in every ep.
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Post by love2cookpie on May 25, 2007 21:55:43 GMT -5
I wanted to add more, but Kimron Posstoppable summed up my feelings. Pirates, good. Mr. Barking, good. No technology, good. Apparently putting it all together on a favorite show....Bad.
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Post by yes4possible on May 25, 2007 22:56:12 GMT -5
I don't know how anyone doesn't like this episode, but thinks Rewriting History is a good episode.
I hated RH for the very reason nothing happened. At least in this episode, the things that happened really happened, it wasn't a dream like in RH.
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Post by slicknickshady on May 25, 2007 23:11:57 GMT -5
I don't know how anyone doesn't like this episode, but thinks Rewriting History is a good episode. I hated RH for the very reason nothing happened. At least in this episode, the things that happened really happened, it wasn't a dream like in RH. Rewriting History is a 5/5 to me because how Sweet is it Kim/Ron had the same dream. It makes what Yori says in Big Bother mean even more. K/R Are Destiny. Them having the same dream was a HUGE development in the Series I believe. Drakken did not even remember what happened in Cap'N Drakken. Rewriting History is so much better than this episode imo. So I don't agree with the since we hate this ep we have to hate that ep also theory.
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Post by yes4possible on May 25, 2007 23:19:24 GMT -5
I don't know how anyone doesn't like this episode, but thinks Rewriting History is a good episode. I hated RH for the very reason nothing happened. At least in this episode, the things that happened really happened, it wasn't a dream like in RH. Rewriting History is a 5/5 to me because how Sweet is it Kim/Ron had the same dream. It makes what Yori says in Big Bother mean even more. K/R Are Destiny. Them having the same dream was a HUGE development in the Series I believe. Drakken did not even remember what happened in Cap'N Drakken. Rewriting History is so much better than this episode imo. So I don't agree with the since we hate this ep we have to hate that ep also theory. Well I am just stating my opnion. I thought when I saw Rewriting History I was a victom of a crual April Fool's day joke. I am not a fan of the IT WAS ALL A DREAM twist, I feel very cheated, but that is just my opinion, I meant no offense to anyone else. The only exception to my dislike of IT WAS ALL A DREAM twist was the tv series Newhart. For some reason I didn't mind that whole series was a dream. But any other time, it was revealed what I was watching was a dream weather just an episode, a whole season (Dallas), or a series (St. Elsewhere) I feel empty and cheated. That the story I was following didn't happen. Let's just say the Dream twist is a pet peeve of mine.
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Post by DP on May 25, 2007 23:41:46 GMT -5
Rewriting History is a 5/5 to me because how Sweet is it Kim/Ron had the same dream. It makes what Yori says in Big Bother mean even more. K/R Are Destiny. Them having the same dream was a HUGE development in the Series I believe. Drakken did not even remember what happened in Cap'N Drakken. Rewriting History is so much better than this episode imo. So I don't agree with the since we hate this ep we have to hate that ep also theory. Well I am just stating my opnion. I thought when I saw Rewriting History I was a victom of a crual April Fool's day joke. I am not a fan of the IT WAS ALL A DREAM twist, I feel very cheated, but that is just my opinion, I meant no offense to anyone else. The only exception to my dislike of IT WAS ALL A DREAM twist was the tv series Newhart. For some reason I didn't mind that whole series was a dream. But any other time, it was revealed what I was watching was a dream weather just an episode, a whole season (Dallas), or a series (St. Elsewhere) I feel empty and cheated. That the story I was following didn't happen. Let's just say the Dream twist is a pet peeve of mine. I feel the same way about Rewriting History. But MBS did say once that the ancestors revealed in that ep were real people, so it wasn't all just a dream. And I've always thought that there's a possibility that maybe the reason they had the same dream was because those events really did happen, but maybe the owner of the museum erased it from their memories using some memory erasing device because he didn't want the secrets of the past to be found out, but it wasn't erased from their sub-concious memories and thus it popped up in their dream.
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Post by slicknickshady on May 25, 2007 23:44:13 GMT -5
Let's just say the Dream twist is a pet peeve of mine. That's understandable. When i heard Dallas had done that my Jaw dropped. It was way after it ended that I found out. I never saw it. It always comes up when a show get's cancelled and brought back on "Will they pull a Dallas?" ;D That would tick me off..
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Post by yes4possible on May 26, 2007 0:09:59 GMT -5
Let's just say the Dream twist is a pet peeve of mine. That's understandable. When i heard Dallas had done that my Jaw dropped. It was way after it ended that I found out. I never saw it. It always comes up when a show get's cancelled and brought back on "Will they pull a Dallas?" ;D That would tick me off.. People were afriad StD would be just a dream. I know we are sawying off topic, but since people brought up this episode felt like a waste of time, that is how I feel with whole episodes that are dreams.
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Post by mego on May 26, 2007 17:47:03 GMT -5
Drakken: Yharr! Save me booty! Shego: If I had a dubloon for everytime I've done that.
Drakken: What happened? Did I conquer the world? Somehow I thought it'd be dryer than this.
Those lines made the episode awesome. I wonder why Sis never told me about her time working with a pirate. snicker
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Post by Commander Argus on May 26, 2007 19:39:42 GMT -5
Drakken: Yharr! Save me booty! Shego: If I had a dubloon for everytime I've done that. Drakken: What happened? Did I conquer the world? Somehow I thought it'd be dryer than this. Those lines made the episode awesome. I wonder why Sis never told me about her time working with a pirate. snickerShego must be pretty strong, to lug around that much gold on her back
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Post by yvj on May 26, 2007 19:50:07 GMT -5
Well I am just stating my opnion. I thought when I saw Rewriting History I was a victom of a crual April Fool's day joke. I am not a fan of the IT WAS ALL A DREAM twist, I feel very cheated, but that is just my opinion, I meant no offense to anyone else. The only exception to my dislike of IT WAS ALL A DREAM twist was the tv series Newhart. For some reason I didn't mind that whole series was a dream. But any other time, it was revealed what I was watching was a dream weather just an episode, a whole season (Dallas), or a series (St. Elsewhere) I feel empty and cheated. That the story I was following didn't happen. Let's just say the Dream twist is a pet peeve of mine. I feel the same way about Rewriting History. But MBS did say once that the ancestors revealed in that ep were real people, so it wasn't all just a dream. And I've always thought that there's a possibility that maybe the reason they had the same dream was because those events really did happen, but maybe the owner of the museum erased it from their memories using some memory erasing device because he didn't want the secrets of the past to be found out, but it wasn't erased from their sub-concious memories and thus it popped up in their dream. Whoa wait they were real people? That actually happened? Is this really confirmed?
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Post by DP on May 26, 2007 20:09:11 GMT -5
I feel the same way about Rewriting History. But MBS did say once that the ancestors revealed in that ep were real people, so it wasn't all just a dream. And I've always thought that there's a possibility that maybe the reason they had the same dream was because those events really did happen, but maybe the owner of the museum erased it from their memories using some memory erasing device because he didn't want the secrets of the past to be found out, but it wasn't erased from their sub-concious memories and thus it popped up in their dream. Whoa wait they were real people? That actually happened? Is this really confirmed? Yeah, Bob and Mark confirmed somewhere that the ancestors were real people. I'm not good with remembering where I read stuff, but just trust me. I wouldn't lie about KP.
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Post by manicspike on May 26, 2007 23:38:46 GMT -5
May of been a little promotion for Pirates- But I liked it. Renny is the 2nd best Disney parrot, right behind Ignatz from Talespin. I liked all of Shego's lines. And I thought I heard the theme music from Curse of the Black Pearl at some point in the ep.
Kim- Well yo-ho, yo-ho. " I loved that, and her calling Bonnie a witch haha.
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Post by slicknickshady on May 27, 2007 0:05:30 GMT -5
Well i guess this episode just got worse too me since it was not a gimmick or a mandate from Disney. That was the excuse I was telling myself for how bad the episode was.
3/5 is not bad which is what I gave Grande Size Me also but It just goes to how how great the other episodes are compared to this. Yeah, I'll use this excuse now.
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Post by yvj on May 27, 2007 2:52:18 GMT -5
Yea the lack of K/R was a bummer. The problem is since we don't have many episode left the just "ok" episodes seem to be disappointing people on some many levels
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Post by blak on May 28, 2007 7:16:43 GMT -5
I'm late, I know.
I think this episode was OK, still not great. Like many people are saying in this thread, I personally think that "Rewriting History" is better than this.
P.S. But I liked the CGI ships during the final battle (much like the Diablos).
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Post by gavinstcloud on May 28, 2007 13:46:00 GMT -5
ugh...such a shameless promo for POTC. Shego sounded like she knew it too. TPTB at Disney probably forced that one on them along with a few other shows.
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Post by Rognik on May 28, 2007 14:16:01 GMT -5
I liked the episode. Not the best, but it had some good points. I enjoyed the historical town. I kinda wished they had more swashbuckling fun, but I guess there's only so much that can be squeezed into a 22 minute episode.
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