Leto
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Post by Leto on Oct 18, 2005 1:46:46 GMT -5
What do I think? I think that Kim & Ron would be freaking with each other every other night, or maybe about once a month, say like James Bond does at the conclusion of a mission. Let's face it: Kim & Ron are teenagers living in 21st century America, and like most teens, sex is a part of their lives. Now that they are at college (in the Cloud Monet stories) they will be doing it, and most likely, be sleeping in the same bed most nights! So would Monique, Tara, the Tweebs (once they reach 16), Wade (provided he gets from behind that computer, goes outside, lifts weights like his future self does in A Sitch In Time and gets buff) as well as Josh Mankey. Just because Disney isn't imaginative enough to have this happen, doesn't mean that the fans can't do so. As for Drakken & Shego: I reverse my previous statements, and believe that they do in fact have sex-wild, super Tantric sex, possibly. ;D
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Post by jc3p2 on Oct 18, 2005 11:43:30 GMT -5
What do I think? I think that Kim & Ron would be freaking with each other every other night, or maybe about once a month, say like James Bond does at the conclusion of a mission. Let's face it: Kim & Ron are teenagers living in 21st century America, and like most teens, sex is a part of their lives. Now that they are at college (in the Cloud Monet stories) they will be doing it, and most likely, be sleeping in the same bed most nights! So would Monique, Tara, the Tweebs (once they reach 16), Wade (provided he gets from behind that computer, goes outside, lifts weights like his future self does in A Sitch In Time and gets buff) as well as Josh Mankey. Just because Disney isn't imaginative enough to have this happen, doesn't mean that the fans can't do so. As for Drakken & Shego: I reverse my previous statements, and believe that they do in fact have sex-wild, super Tantric sex, possibly. ;D im with this guy ;D
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Post by cloudmonet on Oct 18, 2005 12:38:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure this proves too much. In Mind Games, they both changed clothes while in each other's bodies, certainly were in this predicament long enough to use the bathroom, and probably took showers. Details are left somewhat to the imagination, but given this, what has Ron not already seen? I notice them acting a bit more shippy than usual for season one in this episode...
The "Sick Day" clothes change was done behind a screen.
The "So the Legs" wet suit to Cleopatra dress clothes change was executed so quickly, one wonders how Ron managed to know what she was doing and look away in time! One also wonders how Ron managed to stuff a blue tux and ruffled shirt inside a wet suit.
It looks to me like there's a disconnect in Kim's mind between changing clothes for a mission and removing them for romantic purposes. I'm not sure one sitch says much about the other.
Sure, it's possible, I guess, but why bother waiting if you can just solve the problem by getting hitched?
If only atheists had premarital sex, there'd be much less of it. Atheists are much, much rarer than premaritarians. (How's that for a neologism?)
Christianity popped up as the religion of the underclass in an empire where the ruling class was into orgies. Of course they're going to make themselves as different as possible.
The biggest trouble with a lot of these religions is there's no accepted way for God to hand out new instructions suited to the current sitch. "Be fruitful, and multiply," for example? Yeah, with a world pop of over 6 billion, it's not such a good idea anymore, but is there a way for God to amend the instruction book? Nope. When it was written, there wasn't even a way to express a number like six billion, let alone caution everybody maybe they should slow down at three billion.
Yep, I should follow God's instructions, marry my girlfriend, be liable for all her health care bills which there's no way we can possibly pay without government assistance, which they wouldn't give before I'm bankrupt by actually paying for it all. Health insurance? Forget it! Way too expensive.
Come on. I had a surgeon cut a blood clot from my heart with a laser. The whole thing took maybe three or four hours. The surgeon got $3000 for four hours' work. The medical helicopter company $11000, for a 150 mile ride that lasted less than an hour. The hospital got $40000 for four days room an board. That's a hell of a motel bill. And, of yes, my heart attack wasn't particularly life-threatening, as such things go.
Her injuries and other conditions are obscure, complicated, and apparently even more expensive than this.
Did God foresee modern malpractice insurance driving the price of medical care beyond the means of all but the wealthiest among us? Did God foresee a culture in which it was routine for complex job-training procedures (call it "college") to delay marriage until both parties are 24 or something?
There's not much provision for this in the instructions, which were written down in an ancient world where the girls were usually married as soon as they hit puberty. When Christianity and Judasm were invented, Kim would have already been married by the time we first see her in "Tick Tick Tick," probably to someone closer to Drakken's age than Ron's.
Here we have a nice Jewish boy who routinely eats Pop Pop Porter's pork rinds, an abomination if ever there was one, yet we expect him to resist Kim's allure in the same modern world that offers pork rinds?
I find it kind of amusing that this whole wave of premarital backlash is coming from the same part of America where, before 1865, the plantation owners, good Baptists all, were hard at work giving as many American blacks as possible European Y chromosomes, while their wives, ahhh, I don't even want to think about it.
And now, the reminants of the Confederacy have the chutzpah to tell the rest of us how immoral we're being?
Of course, this was all a long time ago. Moses was, what, 1200 BC or something, Jesus, about 25-30 AD for most of his talk, the council of Nicea, 330, roughly, the reformation 1500s, the old slaveholding Southeast, 1650-1865. You know what? All these people lived a long time ago, and I've got the benefit of their accumulated knowledge (and mistakes, especially the mistakes), but I'm living now, in 2005, and feel fairly comfortable putting any ancient instructions in perspective and coming to my own conclusions, as indeed they did themselves long ago.
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Post by jmt2005791 on Oct 18, 2005 12:50:52 GMT -5
i wonder if your refering to people like me. i am from kentucky a slave state back then. but we were neutral during the civil war. my belifs on thismatter is the sex is something special something the should only be giving to you husband or wife. if you give it to someone else then its no longer special. by the way i am not baptist i don affilate myself with any religion right now but i do believe in god
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Post by Forlong on Oct 18, 2005 16:01:02 GMT -5
You actually believe that crap? Sex is not making love. It can be an expression of love, but that isn't always the case. An expample of when it's not is rape. Premarrital sex is sadly simmular (not quite as bad, but bad nonetheless). You'd be fulfulling your intinctive desires without any sacrifice. That's not what love is about. Love is giving! If you say that you'll sacrifice your freedom of "walking out" (as you can see, I also don't like devorce), then sex could be considered an extention of that. I plan on waiting until I get married to have sex, because I don't trust myself to stay with a girl otherwise. And I'm not about to let anyone say that it means that I don't really have any love.
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Post by AgHorizonFilm on Oct 18, 2005 17:00:45 GMT -5
wow this is being debated heavily
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Post by taechunsa on Oct 18, 2005 17:48:04 GMT -5
Woah!
Okay everyone let's calm down. Maybe it is time to let this topic die. This has turned from a discussion of what Kim and Ron might do into a topical debate that will do nothing but hurt feelings and anger people.
This was never my intention in discussing this topic.
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Post by Tim811 on Oct 18, 2005 17:58:49 GMT -5
What do I think? I think that Kim & Ron would be freaking with each other every other night, or maybe about once a month, say like James Bond does at the conclusion of a mission. Let's face it: Kim & Ron are teenagers living in 21st century America, and like most teens, sex is a part of their lives. Now that they are at college (in the Cloud Monet stories) they will be doing it, and most likely, be sleeping in the same bed most nights! So would Monique, Tara, the Tweebs (once they reach 16), Wade (provided he gets from behind that computer, goes outside, lifts weights like his future self does in A Sitch In Time and gets buff) as well as Josh Mankey. Just because Disney isn't imaginative enough to have this happen, doesn't mean that the fans can't do so. As for Drakken & Shego: I reverse my previous statements, and believe that they do in fact have sex-wild, super Tantric sex, possibly. ;D Word
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Post by Ezbok58a on Oct 18, 2005 18:44:03 GMT -5
Lets not get angry here, its to discuss not fight.
You want to fight, pistols at dawn 20 paces.
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Post by Artificial Moose on Oct 18, 2005 19:57:05 GMT -5
Woah! Okay everyone let's calm down. Maybe it is time to let this topic die. This has turned from a discussion of what Kim and Ron might do into a topical debate that will do nothing but hurt feelings and anger people. This was never my intention in discussing this topic. For whatever role I have played in said derailment, I apologize. It was never my intention to spark such a charged discussion or to bring up personal matters, save what I felt I needed to mention in order to present a full and accurate picture of my position in this matter. If I have done so, however inadvertently, then I ask the forgiveness of all involved. Cloud - If what I said offended or angered you, then I apologize and ask your forgiveness, for such was not my intent. I merely wished to clarify where I am coming from on this; not to tell you, or anyone else, how to live your life. Shall we agree to disagree, then, and move on?
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Post by Ezbok58a on Oct 18, 2005 20:07:25 GMT -5
Agree to disagree Or else PISTOLS AT SUN UP!!!! (I know, I've been using that alot today )
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Post by cloudmonet on Oct 19, 2005 17:42:51 GMT -5
Sometimes it's better for me to shut up than rant. My post above was perhaps a perfect example. Although it touches on a lot of interesting ideas and my personal frustrations with current politics, it's not detailed enough to justify itself, which would require writing a book, maybe, and I'd really rather write books about other stuff. Sorry if I bummed anyone.
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Post by jmt2005791 on Oct 19, 2005 17:50:27 GMT -5
cloudmonet you didn't bum me out i just didn't like the stereotype you used. stereotypes are something i have always been fighting aganist especial since i come from the mountain areas of kentucky. everyone excpects me to be some dumb hick or hillbilly or redneck. i can tell you right now i am none of those. i have an above average intellegence. it treaks me to see someone use an stereotype about the area around where i live
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Post by Artificial Moose on Oct 19, 2005 19:28:55 GMT -5
Sometimes it's better for me to shut up than rant. My post above was perhaps a perfect example. Although it touches on a lot of interesting ideas and my personal frustrations with current politics, it's not detailed enough to justify itself, which would require writing a book, maybe, and I'd really rather write books about other stuff. Sorry if I bummed anyone. Cloud - no big. Water under the bridge. Though I'll certainly say that it's a good thing this didn't go to pistols at dawn. It's been awhile since I shot at anything (and even then the target was an inanimate paint can), so my aim probably stinketh; plus, the guy who would be my second is currently in another state. And you can't duel without seconds, such things just aren't done.
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Post by Ezbok58a on Oct 19, 2005 19:52:18 GMT -5
Good, cause it would be a long drive for me to supply the pistols. lol!
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 19, 2007 16:27:15 GMT -5
I found this thread so I decided to post in it instead of making a new thread. I'm curious if any of these feelings some of you have had changed with season 4. I answered NO. There is no way to know for sure if they are having sex. I mean we know they both love each other this season, They have been together for 6 months as mentioned in clean slate. They go on dates every week as mentioned in odds man in, They babysit hana together sometimes as mentioned in "Oh No! Yono", and etc. I have said in other threads how i'm certain they make out. I have never known a high school couple that did not make out. Not every highschool couple has sex though. With Kim & Ron they each have never been with anybody else so I don't think they will be in any hurry to have sex (Make love). They will know that they will be each others first and last. I wish I could say I think they are having sex now but I just can't bring myself to believe that 100%. I'm for pre-marital sex. I'm also for my first time being my partners first time as well. In this case since K & R will be each others first time I don't see them being in any rush. I think they will be content in waiting for marriage. If they were having pre-marital sex I would have nothing wrong with it. I just don't see it. They love each other so if they are they still will be each others first and last. I'm just not comfortable saying it's 100% happening untill they get married. Then I will be 100% sure they have having sex (Making love) I'm really interested to see how Cloudmonets view has changed. I really love the posts he made in this thread.
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Post by ninjanaco on Aug 20, 2007 14:07:08 GMT -5
I'm really interested to see how Cloudmonets view has changed. I really love the posts he made in this thread. I don't. Especially with his lumping in all social conservatives with Confederate sympathizers (guilt by association, anyone? ) Forlong created a similar thread after this thread basically died, and what I stated there, I'll state here (and I think I did so before): since the morality of premarital relations aren't addressed in "Kim Possible," we cannot know for sure whether or not Kim and Ron would be willing to have sex before marriage; however, given the fact that Kim's displayed a strong set of internal moral values, and that she wouldn't act against those values even if Ron wanted her to (and the fact he usually gives in when she's morally right), I do not think it would be out of character if Kim and Ron waited until their wedding night. That is all?
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Post by jinxs on Aug 20, 2007 14:11:23 GMT -5
There is like huge issue about this in Holding hands thread about like dozen pages , there is pointed out very good/bad assumptions But facts are we cant know what happens outside screen and we can just assume and make different views/speculation but well we can think what we want so my speculation is yes they have something going on outside screen.. only thing what would confirm this would probably be like Kim would tell she is pregnant
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Post by AvinashTyagi on Aug 20, 2007 14:12:11 GMT -5
Depends on Kim
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Post by shegofanatic on Aug 20, 2007 14:23:48 GMT -5
To me, they look like a couple that wants to take it slow. Maybe for their 1st anniversary. I dont know cause i dont have experience in that area, but Kim is like me she probably want to wait til shes in a relationship and she is with ron so maybe. Ok, im rambling about something so i'll stop
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