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Post by Rognik on Apr 26, 2007 2:48:22 GMT -5
And here I expected you to say either Rufus or a naco. Guess I'm not that romantic after all. Oh, and as a footnote, we kinda know something about Kim's views. She dated Eric for how long and she hadn't kissed him. (wanted to, sure, but acting on an impulse is different from desire)
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Post by Ot@ru on Apr 26, 2007 3:55:50 GMT -5
I really don't like if the have sex before they get married.Let just think that they just make out or just kissing...
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Apr 26, 2007 6:19:07 GMT -5
OMG, in the finale - I'd love for there to be moments where people randomly confess their love for eachother and get it on because it might be their last night on Earth. Though, Kim and Ron would probably be too busy saving the earth to do that. I like the idea that they'll do it after! Like in Independence Day. The daughter of the guy who saves the world she kept all like, "I don't want a die a virgin." I wanted to beat her up after she said it again to this nicer guy. OMG, in the finale - I'd love for there to be moments where people randomly confess their love for eachother and get it on because it might be their last night on Earth. Though, Kim and Ron would probably be too busy saving the earth to do that. I like the idea that they'll do it after! I'm totally with you on this one, Nabu. For some reason, I've got this image stuck in my head of the final battle being some majorly-dramatic, over-the-top thing where they both barely make it out alive. (Maybe one or both of them even spend some time thinking that the other is dead.) Anyway, the end result of all this is that it brings our heroes to the realization that life can be short and there's a definite need to sieze the day. With this fresh in his mind, Ron decides to not procrastinate, (which would be a first for him, by the way), and go after the one thing he treasures most in the world... ...He proposes.TPTB said the finale would be bigger than STD, and it would certainly bring closure to the series in a lot of ways. Just a theory I had... Dude! You are a genius. That would be... crazy cool! I can see it in my head right now and frankly, I'm smiling even though I don't feel 100 percent right now! As far as I'm concerned, when they have sex, if they are both okay with it, love each other, and consenting, then it's okay. I can't say "no big" cuz that's the biggest step you can take aside from marriage. I mean, yeah, I agree with some of you, they are likely to wait a while, but I see Kim as a non-traditional type. I mean she's a WOMAN saving the world. Plus, what she does (i.e. saving the world) kind of makes you realize that she has to be aware of her mortality. I mean, something could happen and she could die tomorrow. You never know. Yeah, I completely agree with you nutzkie.
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Post by Baroque on Apr 26, 2007 7:26:15 GMT -5
What exactly is "make out"? I always thought it's...kissing. And this "Feeling each other up"?
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Apr 26, 2007 9:31:01 GMT -5
I think making out is like kissing and touching each other's in the private areas. I never figured it out myself, but that is what I figured.
Feeling each other up is self explanatory.
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Post by Commander Argus on Apr 26, 2007 10:13:22 GMT -5
Making out to me is pretty much extensive kissing. Kissing done over a longer period and repeatedly, with some neck and shoulder kissing. Not necessarily with intimate touching, but not exclusive (like a little upstairs grope over the clothes or backside)
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Post by Comrade_Chin on Apr 26, 2007 10:56:33 GMT -5
Would the kiss in STD be considered Making Out?
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Post by Baroque on Apr 26, 2007 11:05:33 GMT -5
Making out to me is pretty much extensive kissing. Kissing done over a longer period and repeatedly, with some neck and shoulder kissing. Not necessarily with intimate touching, but not exclusive (like a little upstairs grope over the clothes or backside) Ok...imagined something like this. But what's feeling each other up? ...it's not that self explaining, at least not for me hehe.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Apr 26, 2007 11:33:03 GMT -5
Making out to me is pretty much extensive kissing. Kissing done over a longer period and repeatedly, with some neck and shoulder kissing. Not necessarily with intimate touching, but not exclusive (like a little upstairs grope over the clothes or backside) Ok...imagined something like this. But what's feeling each other up? ...it's not that self explaining, at least not for me hehe. You touching a girl's boobage. Basically, It's fondling. But the word fondling is like saved for... other stuff.
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Post by slicknickshady on Apr 26, 2007 11:52:09 GMT -5
Ok...imagined something like this. But what's feeling each other up? ...it's not that self explaining, at least not for me hehe. You touching a girl's boobage. Basically, It's fondling. But the word fondling is like saved for... other stuff. I'm only saying Geeling Up because i dont want to get in trouble. I don't know if i'm alound to say what 3rd base is when a guy does it to a gril. Ron feeling up Boobage is one of the thing i mean. What Kim is Doing to Ron and What Ron can be also doing to Kim i cant say without getting in trouble. Making out = Extensive kissing. No
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Post by JuPMod on Apr 26, 2007 12:39:12 GMT -5
Base definitions I know: First - deeper than normal kiss (I count the Prom kiss) Second, upstairs, inside. Third, downstairs. Etc. Again, I refer to my fic series. First - the beginning of their relationship. Second waited until they both turned 18 (Kim first) Third, early college. Home, Late college Hmmmm... I maybe have to redefine what I think the 'bases' are about when I'd mentioned them in "A Bond of Honor". First Base - Kiss, deeper kiss, tongue involve, necking, and yes, I even consider bodies pressed together tightly as 'First Base'. Second Base - Actual gropping of breast whether it's over or under clothes, wandering hands underneath clothing. No touching between legs though. (Ron in one chapter I written made a 'second base' attempt on Yori's chest. She didn't let him go that far. ;D) Third Base - Touching between legs, even some nakedness. Feels like foreplay, thus a couple would be taking a lot of cold showers if they reach 'Third Base' but do not head for 'Home Base'. Home Base - Actual sex, full nakedness, and I also consider 'Home Base' when a couple gets married in the relationship aspects.
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Post by Lixa-^_^ on Apr 26, 2007 13:01:31 GMT -5
If you waited until you were married to do "it", then you'd get bored waiting. Of course, you wait until you're legal.
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Post by JuPMod on Apr 26, 2007 13:17:21 GMT -5
If you waited until you were married to do "it", then you'd get bored waiting. Of course, you wait until you're legal. If you were responding to my post, you misinterpreted me. I didn't meant my definition of 'Home Base' to be 'sex until marriage.' My words were that I *also* thought that 'Home Base' meant 'marriage'. A couple reach 'home base' when they exgaged in sex. Yet in the relationship aspects, if a couple gets married, they reached 'home base'. And for the records, I don't mind premartial sex as long as the couple do so with good thinking to avoid 'accidents'.
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Post by KillerBebe Obeys Zita on Apr 26, 2007 13:32:44 GMT -5
remember Kim has a car, they must be having heavy make-out sessions by now, Second Base I don't think so, not for lack of trying on Ron's part (he is a guy) but that he's so clumsy he would never be able to unhook the clasp on Kim's bra. Going past this to third; no, their own moral code would stop them.
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Post by slicknickshady on Apr 26, 2007 14:10:31 GMT -5
They have not done 3rd (Grabbing of Breast, grabbing of The Male Anatomy, Or grabbing the other things a female has butt and ....). They have not gone home (Sex, oral sex, Anal sex).
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Apr 26, 2007 14:31:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree.
I don't think they're ready. I mean, something HUGE had to happen for them to become a couple, so, therefore, logic states that something even HUGER has to happen for them to hit the sheets. And as Graduation is supposed to be BIGGER in scope than S T D, then yep, I think it'll happen then (or after), and yes, OFF SCREEN. ;D
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Post by The Yetimonster on Apr 26, 2007 15:43:53 GMT -5
I don't see them having sex so soon into their romantic relationship, even if they have known each other for 14 years or whatever it is. No real reason to think that way, it just seems logical to me.
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Post by ninjanaco on Apr 26, 2007 15:47:18 GMT -5
Personally, I don't know when Kim and Ron would get intimate, as we don't know Kim and Ron's attitudes toward premarital sex. Given that Ron's basically an irreligious Jew (emphasis on the irreligion, not the Judaism), I don't think he'd really be vehemently against fornication, but Kim might be a different story. it's pretty obvious she's got an internal moral compass (she refused to holo-Kim the visit with Cousin Larry because she'd promised her parents she'd go, she felt guilty about SADIE aceing her Driver's Ed test, and she refuses to charge money for saving people's lives, to name a few examples) so, given her personality (I don't really see Ron convincing her to do something she finds morally abhorrent), if she believes in waiting for marriage, then the two of them will wait to tie the knot before "getting it on." Or, your wedding night would be more spectacular than it would be if you had "done it" before, as you would be releasing all that chemisty and tension that had been storing up before... Oh, what a sorry state our civilization has fallen to when children are considered "accidents."
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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Apr 26, 2007 15:54:40 GMT -5
Personally, I don't know when Kim and Ron would get intimate, as we don't know Kim and Ron's attitudes toward premarital sex. Given that Ron's basically an irreligious Jew (emphasis on the irreligion, not the Judaism), I don't think he'd really be vehemently against fornication, but Kim might be a different story. it's pretty obvious she's got an internal moral compass (she refused to holo-Kim the visit with Cousin Larry because she'd promised her parents she'd go, she felt guilty about SADIE aceing her Driver's Ed test, and she refuses to charge money for saving people's lives, to name a few examples) so, given her personality (I don't really see Ron convincing her to do something she finds morally abhorrent), if she believes in waiting for marriage, then the two of them will wait to tie the knot before "getting it on." Or, your wedding night would be more spectacular than it would be if you had "done it" before, as you would be releasing all that chemisty and tension that had been storing up before... Oh, what a sorry state our civilization has fallen to when children are considered "accidents." I agree--if you get "bored" with the person waiting to have sex with them, maybe you should just dump them and hire a prostitute because you clearly do not love them. Personally, I'm waiting for my wedding night, partially for the reason Ninjanaco gave. How can an "accident" occur if you weren't bothering to prevent it? That's not an accident, it's a direct consequence.
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Post by The Yetimonster on Apr 26, 2007 15:59:14 GMT -5
There's a sharp line to be drawn there. Even if you don't want to call the kid an 'accident', there aren't many fates more difficult for young people like Ron and Kim to deal with than an unintended pregnancy. Compared to an older, more established couple dealing with the same situation, I mean.
Now that I think about it, has either half of the couple even been shown to be aggressive enough to pressure the other into sexual activity? It doesn't seem like it. It'd have to be a very mutual thing for those two.
I have no moral issue with pre-marital sex, but I do have an issue with couples who couldn't handle the potential consequences doing these things.
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