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Post by thomashart on Jun 27, 2007 0:51:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I got in up to my elbows on "Mentor"... that script had a lot of growing pains all through the process, but I think it was all worth it. Any time I can work a Kewanee reference into a show I'll do it! I used to make fun of Kewanee all the time on my old local TV series. I don't know if the world is yet ready for Maquoketa (I used to date a girl who live in Preston, IA-- about 12 miles East of there), like you I doubt if anyone on the West Coast would pronounce it properly.
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Post by Joe Stoppinghem on Jun 27, 2007 21:58:12 GMT -5
I would love to see what Will Friedle would do to it, of course don't tell him the proper pronunciation. ;D
I went to Miles HS, er I mean East Central for 8-10 grade before we moved to Delmar, so I know Preston. Haven't see any of those towns in 10-12 years.
Hope things are going well with the CB projects.
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Post by Joe Stoppinghem on Jul 3, 2007 19:41:49 GMT -5
Hey Tom!
I'm heading down to the QC's this weekend, want me to pickup anything for you?
;D
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Post by thomashart on Jul 9, 2007 18:04:31 GMT -5
Hey Tom! I'm heading down to the QC's this weekend, want me to pickup anything for you? ;D Thanks! But I was in the QC over the 4th as well... watch the fireworks (Red, White, and Boom!) from atop the Modern Woodman building. It was quite an impressive display. But now I'm back in LA... missing Country Style, Maid Rite, Whitey's, Harris Pizza, Rudy's, Adolphs, and a whole slew of other unhealthy, but tasty places to eat. And if, while you were there you happened to catch a commercial spot for the ComedySportz National Tournament with a bald guy doing mime to old silent movie music - that was me. ;-)
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Post by slicknickshady on Jul 10, 2007 16:35:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I got in up to my elbows on "Mentor"... that script had a lot of growing pains all through the process, but I think it was all worth it. Any time I can work a Kewanee reference into a show I'll do it! I used to make fun of Kewanee all the time on my old local TV series. I don't know if the world is yet ready for Maquoketa (I used to date a girl who live in Preston, IA-- about 12 miles East of there), like you I doubt if anyone on the West Coast would pronounce it properly. Great work on that ending conversation between Kim & Ron. Ron: Ok, I have no idea what just happend. But I am clearly not cut out to help people make life choices. Kim: Oh, I wouldn't be so sure. You helped me choose...you Ron: Ok, that time I was a genious. *They kiss* So great.
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Post by slicknickshady on Aug 13, 2007 1:15:02 GMT -5
So how does it feel that it's less than a month away till the finale airs? Any special plans for viewing it?
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 12, 2007 0:00:24 GMT -5
Well I just want to say the finale was awesome. Great Job.
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Post by Guru Mandi (will return) on Sept 12, 2007 20:13:04 GMT -5
I saw your name on the writers list during t he finale credits, but I didn't think you had an account here, dude. Great job!!
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Post by thomashart on Sept 20, 2007 17:17:42 GMT -5
There hadn't been a post in this forum in so long that I'd sorta' stopped checking!
Thanks for the props on the final eps. Sadly, I have yet to see it. My DVR failed to record it, so I'll have to catch it on a re-airing, I'm really itching to see it though! Glad to hear it was well received!
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 20, 2007 17:23:06 GMT -5
There hadn't been a post in this forum in so long that I'd sorta' stopped checking! Thanks for the props on the final eps. Sadly, I have yet to see it. My DVR failed to record it, so I'll have to catch it on a re-airing, I'm really itching to see it though! Glad to hear it was well received! Yep. You and Swenlin did a great job. After you see it i hope you make some comments in the graduation review thread.
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Post by jkranites on Sept 25, 2007 2:55:17 GMT -5
There hadn't been a post in this forum in so long that I'd sorta' stopped checking! Thanks for the props on the final eps. Sadly, I have yet to see it. My DVR failed to record it, so I'll have to catch it on a re-airing, I'm really itching to see it though! Glad to hear it was well received! you guys did awesome, but quick question...why did y'all leave it so open was it for us..or just in case something were to happen that you might come back to it
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Post by thomashart on Sept 25, 2007 17:08:49 GMT -5
Well, I still haven't had the opportunity to watch the final - but from what I recall I think there were several avenues that could be viewed as "openings". Since it was the final episode, nobody really wants to see it all "end" so keeping it still open is a way to let the characters continue to breath in the yonder assumed future they exist in. It helps keep the show "evergreen" in that respect.
Last time it took an act of God to bring Kim back, this time it would take an act of Disney--- and the chances of another season of Kim are beyond remote sad to say. But... I never thought we'd do a 4th season and look what happened.
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Post by Joe Stoppinghem on Sept 25, 2007 22:27:23 GMT -5
One thing for sure, you do not want to mess with Disney. I haven't taken the time to thank you for your writing for the final. I enjoyed it, I understand you and Brian(?) worked on the first half hour. I wished it could have been another DC movie, but it was good non the less. Hope things are going well with you and you have been able to keep your mind after working on the CB move. Hope you will still stop by once and a while. Say, have you seen the charity drive for the children's hospital? I don't know if the other VIPs are a ware of it as well.
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Post by cadmus on Nov 8, 2007 16:03:04 GMT -5
I think there were several avenues that could be viewed as "openings". Since it was the final episode, nobody really wants to see it all "end" so keeping it still open is a way to let the characters continue to breath in the yonder assumed future they exist in. It helps keep the show "evergreen" in that respect. Nothing personal, but isn't that the reason why networks usually don't give shows series finale's to begin with? I feel that if you're lucky enough to be given the opportunity to give your characters closure I feel it should be taken or else it might be something we regret later on. It's like not saying final words to a relative that was dying, just because you didn't want to accept the fact that they were dying. But later on you regret not doing so. I know nobody wants to see it end, but the sad fact is, is that all good things must eventually come to an end. And I don't necessarily buy into that "keeps the show evergreen" theory that you posted above. Sure that might work for like 3 months per say, but that feeling eventually wears off. There was nothing here that actually gave Ron's graduation drama a satisfying payoff. There was nothing here that gave the show an ending with dignity. In retrospective I still don't understand the logic behind building up Ron's fears (about whether he and Kim will still be together when college comes around) for 40 minutes and not giving it a satisfying and or logical payoff. Kim's words about "Told you graduation wasn't the end of the world." didn't ring true at all because there's nothing resembling concrete evidence that Kim and Ron are going to college together. And Ron feeling all happy w/out any real pay off at the end didn't feel natural for one minute, it felt forced. Leaving things open are one thing, but hammering home Ron's worries w/out putting his fears to rest just screams cop out, to me anyways. I don't mean to offend you or anything, but that little thing could've given the show the satisfying closure it deserved. And I (as a long time fan) just find it frustrating that Kim Possible one of Disney's best animated shows didn't get that when it had the opportunity to.
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Post by Darth_Comrade on Nov 9, 2007 4:24:23 GMT -5
I think there were several avenues that could be viewed as "openings". Since it was the final episode, nobody really wants to see it all "end" so keeping it still open is a way to let the characters continue to breath in the yonder assumed future they exist in. It helps keep the show "evergreen" in that respect. Nothing personal, but isn't that the reason why networks usually don't give shows series finale's to begin with? I feel that if you're lucky enough to be given the opportunity to give your characters closure I feel it should be taken or else it might be something we regret later on. It's like not saying final words to a relative that was dying, just because you didn't want to accept the fact that they were dying. But later on you regret not doing so. I know nobody wants to see it end, but the sad fact is, is that all good things must eventually come to an end. And I don't necessarily buy into that "keeps the show evergreen" theory that you posted above. Sure that might work for like 3 months per say, but that feeling eventually wears off. There was nothing here that actually gave Ron's graduation drama a satisfying payoff. There was nothing here that gave the show an ending with dignity. In retrospective I still don't understand the logic behind building up Ron's fears (about whether he and Kim will still be together when college comes around) for 40 minutes and not giving it a satisfying and or logical payoff. Kim's words about "Told you graduation wasn't the end of the world." didn't ring true at all because there's nothing resembling concrete evidence that Kim and Ron are going to college together. And Ron feeling all happy w/out any real pay off at the end didn't feel natural for one minute, it felt forced. Leaving things open are one thing, but hammering home Ron's worries w/out putting his fears to rest just screams cop out, to me anyways. I don't mean to offend you or anything, but that little thing could've given the show the satisfying closure it deserved. And I (as a long time fan) just find it frustrating that Kim Possible one of Disney's best animated shows didn't get that when it had the opportunity to. It's because they, like us, are hoping for a fifth season. I think most people on here got the hint.
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Post by cadmus on Nov 14, 2007 21:45:40 GMT -5
It's because they, like us, are hoping for a fifth season. I think most people on here got the hint. I don't buy into that logic, and here's why. They had said that originally their ending featured Kim and Ron ending up in the same college, in a flash forward moment at the end; until Disney axed them from doing that, because according to their bs theories "college doesn't connect with the audience". Indicating that the VIP's did want to give Kim Possible the best possible (no pun intended) closure they could. (Why they changed their minds and left things open boggles my mind) At that point it really should've been PAINFULLY OBVIOUS to the VIP's what the chances of KP getting a 5th season were. At that point I would've done everything in my power to give Kim Possible satisfying closure (i.e. making it obvious to the audience that both Kim and Ron will be going to the same college together, even if we don't see this happen) but thats just me. I don't buy into leaving it open to interpretation since it wasn't the original intention to begin with. Also leaving loose ends open to interpretation adds nothing of value to the show, because any average Joe can interpret their own ending, but at the end of the day it doesn't mean jack, because that person's opinion isn't official. Which is also why I hate it when people spew this garbage about the open ending giving fan fic writers more material to work with. Because once again fan fiction is in no way actual canon to begin with, it never will be; so for fans to interpret their own ending and call it official is living a pipe dream. I know I've echoed this time and time again, but knowing what college Kim and Ron go to, wasn't as important as the knowledge of knowing that Kim and Ron are going together, to the same college, PERIOD. Whether they SHOW US or TELL US, there should've been a conscientious effort to give the show closure, since according to Disney, Kim and Ron have graduated beyond the "target audience." So the chances of Kim Possible getting anything beyond season 4 is marginal at best, the fact that the series finale was an average effort at best, writing wise didn't help much either. The situation is absolutely frustrating, because in all honesty, WE COULD'VE GOT SOMETHING, but we didn't. And because of that Kim and Ron have no official direction at the end of the show(Ron more so than Kim), because the VIP's never gave them one.
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Post by Darth_Comrade on Nov 14, 2007 22:39:51 GMT -5
I'm gonna go on a limb here and guess that you're not fighting for a fifth season...
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Post by Joe Stoppinghem on Nov 25, 2007 20:58:37 GMT -5
The nice thing of not having a official closure is anything can happen.
Books (one of many things I am hoping for), Fan-Fiction stories, a slight possibility (there's that word again) for a movie a few years down the road. That could either be a Disney Channel movie, or heaven's forbid a major motion picture, like Jimmy Neutron, or Sponge Bob.
So one could take it as glass half-full or half-empty, depends on what one wants.
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Post by Joe Stoppinghem on Nov 25, 2007 20:59:55 GMT -5
Tom:
Hope you had a good Thanksgiving, and how are you doing with the writer's strike.
Run across any of the former KP crew?
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Post by thomashart on Nov 27, 2007 2:06:29 GMT -5
Tom: Hope you had a good Thanksgiving, and how are you doing with the writer's strike. Run across any of the former KP crew? I had a very nice Thanksgiving. I spent it in Orlando Fl with my fiancée and her family. I'm not that much affected by the writers' strike. Us lowly animation writers aren't covered by the WGA (Simpsons and Family Guy being two exceptions). We're covered by The Animation Guild which does little to concern itself with animation writers and is more an "artists" union. So we're still working away for lower pay and no residuals. It's been a few weeks but I generally run into Mark, Bob, and Brian. Everyone's been busy with their new projects (Brian at Disney, Mark & Bob at Nick, Me working from home) - so we don't see each other as often as we used to sad to say. One interesting bit of news. Emily (my fiancée) won a car on the Price Is Right. You can read about it and watch the video on my blog: liveontape-tv.blogspot.com/How was your Thanksgiving? Hope it was good.
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