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Post by proudnintendofan on Jul 31, 2007 21:38:00 GMT -5
Or at least, has the potential to be one?
Now, I don't think Shego should be an anti-hero... but usually there's at least one anti-hero in every piece of fiction.
I don't think Shego can quite be an anti-hero. She's definitely a villain. But Bonnie... well I think Bonnie could work. Heck, I think she could very well serve as the "Draco Malfoy" of the show. Heck, she IS the Draco Malfoy of Kim Possible in some ways.
What do you think?
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Post by kpfan5678 on Jul 31, 2007 22:24:07 GMT -5
I just think of her as the Mean Girl, because every show has one.  |
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Post by Whisper from the Shadows on Jul 31, 2007 22:36:29 GMT -5
Now that you mention it... I could see her saying Kim was too soft on the villains, and coming in "shooting first, asking questions later". I mean she tore Dementor apart for his lack of a direct approach, imagine if something pushed her into stopping a hero on her own.
I can imagine something like this coming out of her mouth as Dr. D was ranting, "I really don't have time for this, I'm going to beat you into submission or you are going to go quietly. Your choice, but you only have 10 seconds before I choose for you. Oh, by the way, I had to miss a manicure to stop you."
Plus, I don't figure her to be the type to follow the traditional "villain vs. hero" relationship...
GAH, more plot bunnies, and I really don't need any more right now. Someone else please take this one.
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Post by yes4possible on Jul 31, 2007 22:41:32 GMT -5
Who is Draco Malfoy? I see where you are trying to go, saying she is on the side of good, she has even helped Kim out a couple of times, but I think anti hero is to strong of the word for Bonnie.
Anti hero to me is someone like Jet (Avatar: The Last Airbender) or Red X (Teen Titans).
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Post by Whisper from the Shadows on Jul 31, 2007 23:15:19 GMT -5
Anti-hero is defined by the Punisher. Out there to make the world a better place, but has no qualms about stepping on authoritative toes *cough*breaking the law in the process*cough* to get rid of a problem.
Jet could be qualified as an anti-hero, except he was going to kill a bunch of innocent people when there were other options. And Red-X is nowhere near an anti-hero, he's an opportunistic thief that realized his options came down to helping the Titans or putting up with Chang in the future. He has no illusion about helping the world out.
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Post by Alexlayer on Jul 31, 2007 23:23:04 GMT -5
Well, Shego could do as a GREAT Anti-Hero if she turns "good", but let's focus on Bonnie here.
She's is one of my favourite characters and I'm planing a fic with her as the hero (or Anti-hero, however you wanna see it). The problem is that I think she would hardly give a darn for something like saving the world. If you could make some character development and pull out some generosity and/or conciusness from her, then you could make her go into the hero business, but of course, as an Anti-hero.
She would probably need some training. She managed to make a good team with Kim in "Bonding", which means she does has some ability, but still is no match for the Redhead. Of course, you could always try to power her up with some Plot Device and give her some power or something like that.
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Post by Nutzkie on Aug 1, 2007 1:38:28 GMT -5
It's a Harry Potter reference. Draco Malfoy is the spoiled, uppity, aristocratic snitch of a twerp who's in Harry's class and is always making trouble for the people who he thinks are beneath his standing. (Which is pretty much everybody.) |
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Post by Firelady Nemo on Aug 1, 2007 12:26:03 GMT -5
bonnie is just a mean girl/rival, not really anti-hero material..........yet...
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Post by eclogite on Aug 1, 2007 12:40:58 GMT -5
Bonnie has potential as an anti-hero. When one considers some of the classic anti-heroes of the past such as Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name, Toshiro Mifune's displaced samurai, Shane and others there are some factors that could lead her to anti-hero status.
She has suffered a wrong in the way her sisters treat her.
She seems to have her own moral compass, right now it is skewed by her perception that Kim has the status she is entitled to.
She presents a tough image that may be a defense against some hurt.
She operates within her own frame of reference.
She is capable of great effort to achieve a goal that is worthwhile to her. She can work with others to achieve that goal.
Bonnie would need more development to achieve anti-hero status. She is too self absorbed to become a hero, but anti-hero is certainly a possibilty. Right now she serves as mostly a source of conflict and foil for Kim. Also to contrast real villains from mere high school irritations.
It will be interesting to see where she goes in the remaining episodes, perhaps Homecoming Upset will provide the catlyst for her to turn the corner.
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Post by lonestarr357 on Aug 1, 2007 21:38:09 GMT -5
That I can see, she might be considered any kind of hero accidentally. You all watch the show, right? That girl looks out for numero uno, and if by some infinitesimal chance, what she wants runs parallel to what the downtrodden want, then and only then could she possibly be mistaken for a hero...of any kind.
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Post by Kimron Posstoppable on Aug 2, 2007 1:02:16 GMT -5
I find it easier to believe that Shego would make a better anti-hero than Bonnie.
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Post by mike on Aug 2, 2007 6:33:02 GMT -5
Bonnie has potential as an anti-hero. When one considers some of the classic anti-heroes of the past such as Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name, Toshiro Mifune's displaced samurai, Shane and others there are some factors that could lead her to anti-hero status. She has suffered a wrong in the way her sisters treat her. She seems to have her own moral compass, right now it is skewed by her perception that Kim has the status she is entitled to. She presents a tough image that may be a defense against some hurt. She operates within her own frame of reference. She is capable of great effort to achieve a goal that is worthwhile to her. She can work with others to achieve that goal. Bonnie would need more development to achieve anti-hero status. She is too self absorbed to become a hero, but anti-hero is certainly a possibilty. Right now she serves as mostly a source of conflict and foil for Kim. Also to contrast real villains from mere high school irritations. It will be interesting to see where she goes in the remaining episodes, perhaps Homecoming Upset will provide the catlyst for her to turn the corner. I agree and who knows maybe after a little training with Shego, they might become the supreme one's one day. |
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Post by jinxs on Aug 2, 2007 6:35:32 GMT -5
After all bebes wanted her to be their queen...
but she is more rival and bully type to me
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Post by Ot@ru on Nov 30, 2007 5:09:17 GMT -5
Bonnie just jealous that Kim is popular all around the world.
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Dec 7, 2007 8:05:08 GMT -5
antihero
n : a protagonist who lacks the characteristics that would make
him a hero (or her a heroine)
This is why I count Shego as a anti-hero. She lacks the emotions that heroes show like compassion, fear for others. She does what she does not for others but for herself. When she fought against Warmonga and Warhok it wasnt for the same reasons as Kim, she fights for herself and ends up being a hero. That is what an anti-hero is all about.
What about Vegeta from DBZ? He doesnt exactly care to much, or at least that is what he says, but ends up making a huge sacrifice against Majin Buu.
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Post by kimburnpotts on Dec 9, 2007 23:59:39 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that Bonnie is normally an anti-hero, although she perhaps filled in as an "anti-hero" type once or twice (such as the times when she helped Kim because she was physically attached to her, or because she wanted to win the Spirit Stick)...
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Post by Alexlayer on Dec 10, 2007 0:50:27 GMT -5
Well, for the record, Bonnie has acted as an Anti-Hero during "Return to Wannabeep", "Cap'n'Drakken" and "Bonding". Maybe more but I can't remember right now.
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