Getting through Blockers on E-mails and Mailers.

[lordvictorino]

Hi All,

As you may be aware. Some Media Sites and Disney E-mail Addresses are being Blocked from Subject Words like Kim Possible. So, I was thinking that if you do continue to send E-mails about the Kim Possible Fight For Five, that you may want to not put Kim Possible as the Subject. Instead, we should use other words like maybe Please and Thank You! or BooYa! or other Kim Possible phase words. Or better yet, use words that Disney itself uses like Where Dreams Come True. And tell them what your 1 in a Million Dream is to have a fifth season of Kim Possible and they have it in their power to make this Dream come True.

I was also thinking that we should send Special Holiday Cards, like for Valintines Day, Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Etc...

You might want to also personalize the Card. Like draw a Picture of Kim Possible in Crayon inside the Card and say that you are having a Blue Christmas without Kim Possible. I remember that in A Year without a Santa Claus Movie. I think tugging on their heart strings maybe a good idea, as well.

These are just examples of ways to get some of our Mailers and E-mails through and be more effective.

Please and Thank You,

Tony M. Victorino

[eclogite]

This might backfire in a really big way, taking people across the line from being merely annoyed at being spammed to actively disliking the show and opposing it.

[KillerBebe Obeys Zita]

Yes we must use different subject titles for each e-mail when sending them so they’re not blocked, I under stand the media taking this route but hate the idea that Disney would do something like this.

I also believe that sending one template letter is fine but any additional e-mails should be written differently. I write a letter with five or six points then break it up and send each part with a new subject line. I keep them all short and sweet as so not to over burden the reader, this is my style so I am not telling anyone to change from what they’re doing now.

[dracko19]

If I may.....

Perhaps this might not be the best course of action. Let me ask you all a question:

Do any of you get unwanted spam in your email? I do. Let's take a look at an example:

Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:27:39 -0800
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 212472441475*MedzForLessAt0ur0nlinePharmcy______piBoh4ANAn0W7dW
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; format=flowed

GetAllYourMedsHereForLesseemhccopax42.blogspot.com

Now, this spammer has changed the subject line numerous times trying to "wear me down" and finally give in and click on this annoying link. It will NEVER work. I instantly delete these emails when I get them and I will NEVER click on his link. Period. Ever.

My point is, if someone is tired of you bombarding them with emails, changing the subject line will do ZERO good and will simply cause NEGATIVE action on the other side of the computer. You want POSITIVE action. Doing something that will ensure KP never gets run again would not be wise.

There are several ways you can address the KP issue. You have tried the bombarding/annoying way. That hasn't worked, but did get the movement noticed (albiet in a negative light). I think now you need to focus on a positive angle.

So...how? Well, lets try this: Engagement. I'm not talking about Ron and Kim getting married either. What you want to do is engage some of the people you are trying to get to take positive action. For example, a high-up at Disney. You want to establish a dialogue and ask them what he/she thinks it will take to restart the series. Maybe ask the advice of a entertainment columnist what they think you should be doing. There are many people whom you have annoyed out there that would actually be glad to give you feedback and advice. Especially if it meant stopping the email spam they are tired of.

I'm not saying engagement will be easy. I am saying its possible and it should be your next step. Let's try actually being courteous and talking to some who make decisions on KP or who cover Disney from a news perspective and see what you can find out. Information is power and you need some right now.

[eclogite]

My thinking, precisely (I'm constantly getting things from people I don't know with jumbled subject lines, I always delete without opening, figure they use a parsing program that just generates address strings, sequentially).

[lordvictorino]

dracko19 said:

If I may.....

Perhaps this might not be the best course of action. Let me ask you all a question:

Do any of you get unwanted spam in your email? I do. Let's take a look at an example:

Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:27:39 -0800
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 212472441475*MedzForLessAt0ur0nlinePharmcy______piBoh4ANAn0W7dW
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; format=flowed

GetAllYourMedsHereForLesseemhccopax42.blogspot.com

Now, this spammer has changed the subject line numerous times trying to "wear me down" and finally give in and click on this annoying link. It will NEVER work. I instantly delete these emails when I get them and I will NEVER click on his link. Period. Ever.

My point is, if someone is tired of you bombarding them with emails, changing the subject line will do ZERO good and will simply cause NEGATIVE action on the other side of the computer. You want POSITIVE action. Doing something that will ensure KP never gets run again would not be wise.

There are several ways you can address the KP issue. You have tried the bombarding/annoying way. That hasn't worked, but did get the movement noticed (albiet in a negative light). I think now you need to focus on a positive angle.

So...how? Well, lets try this: Engagement. I'm not talking about Ron and Kim getting married either. What you want to do is engage some of the people you are trying to get to take positive action. For example, a high-up at Disney. You want to establish a dialogue and ask them what he/she thinks it will take to restart the series. Maybe ask the advice of a entertainment columnist what they think you should be doing. There are many people whom you have annoyed out there that would actually be glad to give you feedback and advice. Especially if it meant stopping the email spam they are tired of.

I'm not saying engagement will be easy. I am saying its possible and it should be your next step. Let's try actually being courteous and talking to some who make decisions on KP or who cover Disney from a news perspective and see what you can find out. Information is power and you need some right now.

Hi Dracko19,

I agree with you on seeking Dialog over Spamming . But no matter how well written an E-mail is or Mailer is, if you send it with a Kim Possible Subject Line, it will probably get tossed into the circular file. I'm not saying to bombard them with E-mails or Mailers, I am saying to send personalized E-mails and Letters or Postcards, but we need them to get through one way or the other. If they don't make it through the first hurdle, no matter how well wrtten it is, asking for dialog or not, it will not matter, because it will never get through in the first place.

There is a hige difference between getting a Subject of "MedzForLessAt0ur0nlinePharmcy" in a E-mail and getting one that has "Please and Thank You! Disney where Dreams come true!" Subject line.

I have every right to send a Letter, Postcard, or E-mail to anyone I choose to do so, and tell them my feelings on the Subject of the Cancellation of Kim Possible. And if other choose to take this same course of action, well, I'm not going to stop them.

I am aways open to New Ideas on how to proceed. I do agree that we need to take other new avenues for the fight, but we still need to continue with what we are doing, until some better action can be done.

And IMO. There is no more Kim Possible, and so there is no way that anything will back fire or do something that will ensure KP never gets run again. You can't loose something that no longer in production. It's not like we are making threats or telling them to jump off a cliff. We are expressing our opinions in the only way we know how. And there is nothing wrong with that. NOTHING!

Even through Dracko19 is not with us in the fight directly, I do appreciate your input. And I hope that more people here will continue to contribute New Ideas more often. The more input, the better.

Please and Thank You,

Tony M. Victorino

[morefood2001]

dracko19 said:

If I may.....

Perhaps this might not be the best course of action. Let me ask you all a question:

Do any of you get unwanted spam in your email? I do. Let's take a look at an example:

Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:27:39 -0800
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: 212472441475*MedzForLessAt0ur0nlinePharmcy______piBoh4ANAn0W7dW
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; format=flowed

GetAllYourMedsHereForLesseemhccopax42.blogspot.com

Now, this spammer has changed the subject line numerous times trying to "wear me down" and finally give in and click on this annoying link. It will NEVER work. I instantly delete these emails when I get them and I will NEVER click on his link. Period. Ever.

My point is, if someone is tired of you bombarding them with emails, changing the subject line will do ZERO good and will simply cause NEGATIVE action on the other side of the computer. You want POSITIVE action. Doing something that will ensure KP never gets run again would not be wise.

That spam issue hit me really hard in the past few months, and a few people who had email addies through my system were hit really hard. At one point, I was seeing a total of about 100,000 messages coming through my email servers on a daily basis, about 8000 of them hitting my personal email box. That is major yuck as a system admin and email user

I solved this issue with a few spam filters, then human verification. I now have a common program called spam assassin installed on my email server, which will score each email depending on content before it even gets to the user's inbox and their personal filters. This looks for certain words. On my system, I had an original score of 5, which is now a 3. If Disney implemented something like this, it would be searching for Kim Possible, and likely scoring it .5 or so points. That doesn't leave too much room for a lot of phrases, but scores can help tell you what you can and can't say.

Now for people who spam like in dracko's post, this filter will not catch that. There are few too many flags to add up to a spam score to reject the message. To resolve this, I implemented a human verification to train the server on how to handle this. Administrators have the ability to do this, so I enabled something called a header approve ability. The header contains an ip address, and subject. For about 2 weeks, I manually approved and disapproved about 1500 messages a day that the main filter didn't catch. The list got smaller until it finally got to about 2 approvals a week. I still have that system enabled and everyone who uses my system has noticed a lot less spam if any. I am only human, so some subjects can pass through without me catching them. Disney probably has a program that does this task, however it is probably not tied into the main filter.

I am not sure if this will help you any at tackling Disney, but I am sure that they handle this in a very similar fashion, with slightly more strict filters and no human verification. I am guessing that Kim Possible is not blocked, but rather a score of several FFF phrases put together is what is blocking your emails.

Take this for what its worth, I hope it helps from the point of view of a system administrator who had a rough spam issue to get through himself .

Phil