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Post by Donne on Aug 10, 2008 19:31:43 GMT -5
Here's a couple bits from my "PLOT BUNNIES!!!" document in notepad. Just a few scribbles, but I'll try to freshen them up. If these are good enough for you to steal, please at least give credit. Both of these expendable plot bunnies are about an evil Ron; I don't have a one-track mind! It must just be a crazy coincidence.  "Sitch in Time", Rufus 3000 never went back in time to get Ron, Ron in future brokenhearted and turned evil, took over world. Kim and Rufus 3000 return to future to find Rufus 3000's future totally gone because of his contaminating the time stream. Ron obviously much older (20 years in future= about 35), many confrontations arise! Kim/Ron? Maybe; your choice. Probably assumes that Ron was in love with Kim back when ASiT took place. -- Ron takes the career placement test, and guess what the results are? That's right, SUPER VILLAIN!!! Gasp! Jack Hench finds out and takes a protesting Ron under his wing. |
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Post by RedBlueGreen on Aug 13, 2008 12:06:21 GMT -5
Here's one I was just recently thinking about: What if Ron and Kim had met their future selves during the whole time monkey, Shego rules the world, Drakken's totally buff, episode? Who will they become? What is their relationship? I think it was mentioned that Kim was "lost in the timestream". Since Kim went straight from the past to the Shego-dominated future, she must have been missing for the years in between. That must have made Shego's conquest easier. I suppose Kim shot herself (and the world) in the foot there. Ron's absence suggests...all sorts of things. Maybe The Supreme One killed or enslaved him. Maybe he's leading the resistance elsewhere. Maybe he's in hiding. That makes me wonder...Anyone like the idea of ShegoNet waging war on humanity with its robot armies while Ron Connor (or Kim) leads the human resistance? |
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Post by Donne on Aug 13, 2008 19:08:07 GMT -5
Here's one I was just recently thinking about: What if Ron and Kim had met their future selves during the whole time monkey, Shego rules the world, Drakken's totally buff, episode? Who will they become? What is their relationship? I think it was mentioned that Kim was "lost in the timestream". Since Kim went straight from the past to the Shego-dominated future, she must have been missing for the years in between. That must have made Shego's conquest easier. I suppose Kim shot herself (and the world) in the foot there. Ron's absence suggests...all sorts of things. Maybe The Supreme One killed or enslaved him. Maybe he's leading the resistance elsewhere. Maybe he's in hiding. Yes, but he was lost in the time stream, too. It's assumed that shortly after the photo-book scene in Ron's new attic, Rufus 3000 went back in time to get him to assist Kim in the not-so-distant past and eventually the far future. Therefore, he would be absent for about 20 years until Rufus 3000's time, like Kim was. |
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Post by Aero Tendo on Aug 13, 2008 21:29:07 GMT -5
I wonder... Maybe Rufus is ALWAYS with Ron, so without Rufus... how could there have been any hyper-evolved clones of 'Rufus Prime'? Or did Wade (assuming it is him, maybe it was someone else? D-N-Amy? She *would* have his DNA and another likely suspect would be Drakken. Both have had the experience and equipment.
I'm betting Drakken started it, got captured by Shego and put into a obedience collar... being what Drakken's equipment is, it probably ran for 2999 more copies before finally wearing out and blowing up. That would explain WHY the tweebs didn't know of Rufus 3000 seeing as Wade seemed to be working with the tweebs.
What do you all think?
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Post by Cody MacArthur Fett on Aug 13, 2008 21:40:45 GMT -5
I think it was mentioned that Kim was "lost in the timestream". Since Kim went straight from the past to the Shego-dominated future, she must have been missing for the years in between. That must have made Shego's conquest easier. I suppose Kim shot herself (and the world) in the foot there. Ron's absence suggests...all sorts of things. Maybe The Supreme One killed or enslaved him. Maybe he's leading the resistance elsewhere. Maybe he's in hiding. Yes, but he was lost in the time stream, too. It's assumed that shortly after the photo-book scene in Ron's new attic, Rufus 3000 went back in time to get him to assist Kim in the not-so-distant past and eventually the far future. Therefore, he would be absent for about 20 years until Rufus 3000's time, like Kim was. So perhaps, in retrieving Kim and Ron from the time-stream to help save the future he unintentionally caused the very thing he was trying to prevent. |
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Post by Aero Tendo on Aug 13, 2008 22:01:16 GMT -5
Yes, but he was lost in the time stream, too. It's assumed that shortly after the photo-book scene in Ron's new attic, Rufus 3000 went back in time to get him to assist Kim in the not-so-distant past and eventually the far future. Therefore, he would be absent for about 20 years until Rufus 3000's time, like Kim was. So perhaps, in retrieving Kim and Ron from the time-stream to help save the future he unintentionally caused the very thing he was trying to prevent. I kind of doubt that. It was in fact caused by the Time Monkey. Once they started time traveling and trying to mess with Kim's past (notice they never even once considered Ron to be a threat until Shego) so only by traveling through time, was anything really able to be fixed. It is a 'breaking eggs to make an omelet or two' kind of deal. |
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Post by RedBlueGreen on Aug 14, 2008 5:37:55 GMT -5
Yes, but he was lost in the time stream, too. It's assumed that shortly after the photo-book scene in Ron's new attic, Rufus 3000 went back in time to get him to assist Kim in the not-so-distant past and eventually the far future. Therefore, he would be absent for about 20 years until Rufus 3000's time, like Kim was. Er, yes, you're right. A moment's thought and I'd have realised that. Too much fun with plotting. I like the idea that it's all a stable time loop. Rufus had to go back to save the world. If he hadn't, Shego still have taken over with the time monkey. But by removing Kim and Ron, he made it possible - or easier - for her to take over. There's no real starting point. Actually, that's not quite true. Where did the time monkey come from in the first place? If it is a stable time loop, was there ever a first place? Maybe the energy of undoing the changes caused by it sent it back to where it was discovered (or something like that, since it was broken.) |
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Post by Donne on Aug 14, 2008 16:09:44 GMT -5
I wonder... Maybe Rufus is ALWAYS with Ron, so without Rufus... how could there have been any hyper-evolved clones of 'Rufus Prime'? Or did Wade (assuming it is him, maybe it was someone else? D-N-Amy? She *would* have his DNA and another likely suspect would be Drakken. Both have had the experience and equipment. I'm betting Drakken started it, got captured by Shego and put into a obedience collar... being what Drakken's equipment is, it probably ran for 2999 more copies before finally wearing out and blowing up. That would explain WHY the tweebs didn't know of Rufus 3000 seeing as Wade seemed to be working with the tweebs. What do you all think? I thought the tweebs DID know of Rufus 3000. They came in fighting with the other "hyper-evolved descendants of Rufus-Prime" at the high school scene, and Rufus 3000 did seem to know them. He asked Kim if she didn't recognize them. |
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Post by Cody MacArthur Fett on Aug 26, 2008 8:32:49 GMT -5
I wonder... Maybe Rufus is ALWAYS with Ron, so without Rufus... how could there have been any hyper-evolved clones of 'Rufus Prime'? Or did Wade (assuming it is him, maybe it was someone else? D-N-Amy? She *would* have his DNA and another likely suspect would be Drakken. Both have had the experience and equipment. I'm betting Drakken started it, got captured by Shego and put into a obedience collar... being what Drakken's equipment is, it probably ran for 2999 more copies before finally wearing out and blowing up. That would explain WHY the tweebs didn't know of Rufus 3000 seeing as Wade seemed to be working with the tweebs. What do you all think? I thought the tweebs DID know of Rufus 3000. They came in fighting with the other "hyper-evolved descendants of Rufus-Prime" at the high school scene, and Rufus 3000 did seem to know them. He asked Kim if she didn't recognize them. You're correct ma'am, they did know about all the ultra-buff Rufus lookalikes. |
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Post by Donne on Aug 26, 2008 15:58:32 GMT -5
I wonder... Maybe Rufus is ALWAYS with Ron, so without Rufus... how could there have been any hyper-evolved clones of 'Rufus Prime'? Or did Wade (assuming it is him, maybe it was someone else? D-N-Amy? She *would* have his DNA and another likely suspect would be Drakken. Both have had the experience and equipment. I'm betting Drakken started it, got captured by Shego and put into a obedience collar... being what Drakken's equipment is, it probably ran for 2999 more copies before finally wearing out and blowing up. That would explain WHY the tweebs didn't know of Rufus 3000 seeing as Wade seemed to be working with the tweebs. What do you all think? You're correct ma'am, they did know about all the ultra-buff Rufus lookalikes. ;D I'm a ma'am! |
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Post by Donne on Aug 29, 2008 16:51:25 GMT -5
Has anyone written a fic about how Monkey Fist met his monkey ninjas?
;D Sounds like a "Monkey Ninja Rap" to me...
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Post by RedBlueGreen on Aug 29, 2008 19:34:51 GMT -5
^^Interesting idea.
Something I thought of, but don't know where it could go:
Kim and Shego have their brains switched, but the machine involved is faulty (because everything around it is exploding) and they lose their memories. Ron grabs Kim (actually Shego in Kim's body) and leaves. He's upset that she's lost her memory again, and assumes she'll forget they were dating again.
Back home, the Possibles show Shego-as-Kim the video of her life they used in "Clean Slate". The Possibles, their home and especially Ron seem familiar, and the video fills in the reasons why. Shego decides she must be Kim Possible.
Meanwhile, since her memory hasn't been interrupted like Shego's, Kim recovers and realises that she has to pretend to be Shego, get Drakken to repair the brain-switching machine and convince her friends of what happened.
But Shego has only the slightest wisp of doubt that she's a teen hero, cheerleader and everything else, not to mention Ron's girlfriend, so what happens to her? She won't be going back to normal after this.
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Post by Donne on Aug 29, 2008 19:36:14 GMT -5
^^That is an awesome idea. I hope someone picks it up.
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Post by Cody MacArthur Fett on Aug 29, 2008 19:56:06 GMT -5
I agree, that is one of the best plot bunnies I've ever seen. |
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Post by RedBlueGreen on Aug 30, 2008 15:49:52 GMT -5
Thank you very much!
But the really awesome thing would be writing it...
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Sept 11, 2008 23:38:05 GMT -5
Since I recently started watching "Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex," featuring the strong, smart, she-can-literally-do-anything lead of Section 09, Major Kusanagi, I figure the plot bunnies were somewhat inevitable....  Granted, this idea would require pushing the GitS timeline forward considerably, but since I consider 2030 to be *way* too early for the sort of technology featured in GiTS, World War IV or not, it's not really an issue for me. Anyway - Kim is horrifically wounded after a mission-gone-wrong (Ron too, if you want another layer of complexity). At the best trauma center in the country, the docs are fighting a titanic - and gradually losing - battle to simply keep her stable, and she's on ventilators and a bypass. Her brain content remains intact, however, even though her body is too mangled to ever be repaired. Fearing that the traits of a world-saver like Kim are essentially a once-in-a-millennia occurrence, and since the security of the world has become so dependent on her activities, and to ensure this type of protection for future generations, the government decides that it must figure out a way to get what makes Kim "Kim" into a replicable format. One of the government scientists callously terms the proposed process "dubbing," after the little arrow button on his VCR/DVD combo at home. So, the best neurosurgeons in the nation are called together - including a very, very reluctant Anne Possible - to essentially strip Kim's brain. While the government had managed to coax Mrs. Possible into the project with the assurance that it'd be like a DVD copy, in that you still leave the original mostly intact after the replication, the truth is that the process kills the victim once the transfer is complete, and Kim (and Ron, if you want to include him) flatlines. (Mrs. Possible's discovery of this, and her ensuing retribution, could develop into a subplot all its own.) A young, fit, extraordinary capable young woman is vetted by the government to be the next candidate. The main reason she is chosen is that she happens to be brain-dead after a horrible accident, giving them a blank slate on which to scribble on. Disk_Kim is uploaded to the person; to the government's horror, the dubbing process does the same thing to their disk as it did Kim - it fries it, leaving the sole copy of the information within their new candidate. Since the government had spent a *very* large amount of money to "dub" Kim, vet and train her successor, and then set up the accident, they can't exactly back out, and since they don't have any other copy of the information, they're forced to use her. And so the process goes; as the first iteration dies, that iteration's memory, containing the Kim subbase, is uploaded to the next candidate, and so on (these Kim-types had the annoying habit of getting themselves killed fairly early in their lifetimes (20's to 30's) due to the highly dangerous nature of world-saving). While this is going on in the background, prosthetics and understanding of the human complex is marching forward to unprecedented levels ( www.spectrum.ieee.org/feb08/5957 , gizmodo.com/394072/all-things-d-dean-kamen-on-his-mind-controlled-cyborg-luke-arm ), nanomechanics is dropping jaws ( www.photonics.com/content/news/2008/August/11/92819.aspx ), and computational and internet spinoffs from LHC quantum-mechanics research are revolutionizing the digital world ( www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24556999/page/2/ ). Eventually, prosthetics and enhancements become so advanced that it starts to become a liability to be 100% organic. The technology inevitably allows an entire body to be built out of machines, leaving the brain as the only natural thing in the unit. To the chagrin of the Dubbers, the very nature of the dubbing process begins to create "transcription errors" - gaps in the original code. Furthermore, just like in a real CD or computer hard-drive, the memory-scrubbing process doesn't erase "everything:" there is still the "plaque" in the crevices; residual bits of the candidate's memory that they erased. These bits fill the gaps in the Kim_file, building it, changing it, "corrupting" it into a distinct, unique personality with each subsequent dub. The process is like sandstone formation - new layers are added to another, but the previous layers and parts of the original bedrock rest deep down. All of the variations retain Kim's essential drives - wanting to rid the world of evil, wanting to help humanity, above-average smarts, phenomenal physical capability - but the traits express themselves in different ways each time, creating an individual. By the 2080's, further understanding of the brain allows the erasing process to take place in an established brain; now, you don't have to begin with someone brain-dead to transfer the Kim_file, although the residual "corruptions" of the original person they wiped still remain. As it so happens, a candidate lands into the Dubber's laps - the survivor of a terrible plane crash, a young girl, her body wrecked like the original redhead's, but her mind still intact. Her name: Motoko Kusanagi. The previous "K_i_M" iteration was killed in the beginnings of a third world war, and in the crisis, an urgent replacement is needed. The girl is selected, wiped, uploaded, and transformed into a living weapon. In Section 09, she's a not-so-average girl who saves the world on a regular basis... and everything seems fine..... Until, that is, she survives into her early 30's... and the omnipresent Web begins to leak some secrets.... and the Kim_file code begins to crosstalk with itself.... (And if you want to bring Ron along too, he's manifested in Batou or Togusa.) |
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Post by Donne on Sept 12, 2008 16:08:46 GMT -5
Wow, 'Chutes, that's detailed. Sounds like an awesome read; you have some imagination! I hope someone picks up the plot.
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Post by fireandchutes77 on Sept 12, 2008 23:21:56 GMT -5
Thank you.  Speaking of which, check out the outfits in this screenshot I took from "Not_Equal," depicting the Major (left) and Togusa (right): img114.imageshack.us/img114/1194/gits1jg1.jpgNow, check out the little bit of rough Photoshop coloring I did to it: img524.imageshack.us/img524/9536/gitskraj1.jpgFreaky.EDIT: Want to know the *really* freaky thing? A few seconds before this screenshot, Togusa says, "...You know, maybe I'm paranoid, but you don't suppose we're simply jumping into an elaborate ambush, do ya?"  |
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Post by Donne on Sept 13, 2008 18:10:42 GMT -5
Thank you. Speaking of which, check out the outfits in this screenshot I took from "Not_Equal," depicting the Major (left) and Togusa (right): img114.imageshack.us/img114/1194/gits1jg1.jpgNow, check out the little bit of Photoshop coloring I did to it: img524.imageshack.us/img524/9536/gitskraj1.jpgFreaky.EDIT: Want to know the *really* freaky thing? A few seconds before this screenshot, Togusa says, "...You know, maybe I'm paranoid, but you don't suppose we're simply jumping into an elaborate ambush, do ya?" Pointing out the similarities between the characters? That's pretty cool, although I don't know what you're referring to. |
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Post by shegoaddict on Oct 11, 2008 13:16:44 GMT -5
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