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Post by lecter on Aug 24, 2008 11:38:32 GMT -5
We are of course talking about her facing each on seperetly.
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Post by Firelady Nemo on Aug 25, 2008 22:07:47 GMT -5
there is no way shego could stand a chance against azula or ozai!! those two could take down all of team possible in 5 minutes on their own
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Aug 26, 2008 0:16:02 GMT -5
there is no way shego could stand a chance against azula or ozai!! those two could take down all of team possible in 5 minutes on their own I don't know. It's questionable as to weather or not Shego's plasma can be bent or blocked by a fire bender, plus Shego can dodge and plan out battle tactics as well as anyone. Could turn into a game of dodge ball. |
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Post by Nightspade on Aug 26, 2008 0:35:07 GMT -5
Please. Force light- er, Firebender Lightning and it's over.
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Post by RadiantBeam on Aug 26, 2008 19:08:31 GMT -5
Well, it depends.
Azula and Ozai alone, with just their regular Firebending? I think Shego might have a chance.
Azula and Ozai juiced up by Sozin's Comet? I think Shego would be toast.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Aug 26, 2008 19:10:37 GMT -5
Please. Force light- er, Firebender Lightning and it's over. Katara evaded the fire and lightning pretty well after Zuko went down, and Shego is a more skillful fighter than Katara. |
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Post by RadiantBeam on Aug 26, 2008 19:15:16 GMT -5
Katara evaded the fire and lightning pretty well after Zuko went down, and Shego is a more skillful fighter than Katara. You have to consider though that Azula was pretty much falling apart by the time she had Katara one-on-one, so she wasn't as powerful or as cunning as she usually is. She was still pretty strong, but Katara was able to get the slip on her because of her fading sanity. I shudder to think how that fight would have gone if Azula had still been sane. |
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Aug 26, 2008 19:20:00 GMT -5
Katara evaded the fire and lightning pretty well after Zuko went down, and Shego is a more skillful fighter than Katara. You have to consider though that Azula was pretty much falling apart by the time she had Katara one-on-one, so she wasn't as powerful or as cunning as she usually is. She was still pretty strong, but Katara was able to get the slip on her because of her fading sanity. I shudder to think how that fight would have gone if Azula had still been sane. True. She did walk right into a trap to end the fight, quite unlike her under different circumstances. You do seem to agree that Shego wouldn't be a push over in such a fight. ;D |
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Post by RadiantBeam on Aug 26, 2008 19:22:48 GMT -5
True. She did walk right into a trap to end the fight, quite unlike her under different circumstances. You do seem to agree that Shego wouldn't be a push over in such a fight. ;D Exactly. Had Azula been at full power, mind and body, that fight could have gone very differently. And hey, I think that under normal circumstances Shego is perfectly capable of holding her own against Azula or Ozai. ;D She's fast and good at hand-to-hand combat, and she's smart and cunning when she decides to be. Now if Ozai and Azula were powered up by Sozin's Comet, that would be a different story.  |
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Aug 26, 2008 19:31:56 GMT -5
True. She did walk right into a trap to end the fight, quite unlike her under different circumstances. You do seem to agree that Shego wouldn't be a push over in such a fight. ;D Exactly. Had Azula been at full power, mind and body, that fight could have gone very differently. And hey, I think that under normal circumstances Shego is perfectly capable of holding her own against Azula or Ozai. ;D She's fast and good at hand-to-hand combat, and she's smart and cunning when she decides to be. Now if Ozai and Azula were powered up by Sozin's Comet, that would be a different story. Sozin's Comet comes by less often than a solar eclipse though, so the likelihood of it being a factor is pretty low. And Shego would have an edge during a solar eclipse, let's not forget that. ;D |
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Post by RadiantBeam on Aug 26, 2008 19:39:25 GMT -5
Sozin's Comet comes by less often than a solar eclipse though, so the likelihood of it being a factor is pretty low. And Shego would have an edge during a solar eclipse, let's not forget that. ;D If it was a solar eclipse Shego would win, hands down. ;D Even in the context of Avatar, it's shown early on that with the exception of Zuko, most of the Firebenders aren't good with hand-to-hand combat because many of their attacks are distance-based. Shego would definitely have the upper hand, since she fights Kim hand-to-hand on a regular basis. |
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Post by yes4possible on Aug 26, 2008 20:02:51 GMT -5
I am going to talk mostly about Azula, since we barely got to know Ozai, and his fighting methods. We know he is very evil and heartless.
If you talking about crazy out of her mind Azula, than she might have a chance, I would probably still pick Azula, Zuko and Katara sitll barely beat her.
But if you are talking about the cold caculator evil genious control of her mind Azula, Azula at her best, Azula would win very easily.
If you talking about Ozai without his bending, of course Shego would win, anyone can beat a bendless Ozai. But if he had his bending, no.
Shego early in the series liked to fight dirty by taking cheep shots, but that is Azula's game, you can't out cheep shot Azula. Azula is the master of cheep shots, because she makes them count, like she did on Iroh and Aang. Later in the series, Shego have become more horoable in her fighting against Kim. She wants to beat Kim one on one, face to face, no cheep shots. Azula is not above cheep shots.
It is true of KP villains, as much as we love them, you have to except them for what they are. They are villains on a comedy show. You match them up against Danny Phantom villains for example, that is more on equal footing. But against series villains, who don't follow any villains codes like the unnecessary slow death traps, blabbing about their plans, giving heros chance to escape, like Azula and Ozai, they are out of their league.
I agree, Shego will put up a good fight against anybody, and it won't be a total squash, but even Shego in terms of ruthless, brains, and evilness, is just out matched. And she would stand the best chance of all of the KP villains. Drakken or Domentor against villains like Ozai or Azula, they wouldn't stand a chance.
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Post by Ot@ru on Aug 28, 2008 21:33:41 GMT -5
There's no way Shego can defeat either one...
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Post by Firelady Nemo on Aug 30, 2008 15:59:56 GMT -5
mabye if Azula were totally crazy.. i really dont know, her plasma is strong, but it really isnt as big as azula & ozai can make it. Since her plasma hase fire-like properties, it would'nt be a quick fight.
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Post by rottingcorpse on Sept 14, 2008 19:38:17 GMT -5
for me no.
cause even without the power boost of the comet both azula and ozai can and will deafeat shego.
shego would have and estimated 15% chance of survival.
azula and ozai were trained to kill since at a very VERY young age and continues to train as they grow up. They were also trained to be Soldiers, Commanders and Battlefield Tacticians.
shego only trained to be a fighter when she got her powers, and she probably trained as a long range support as a hero to provide cover fire for Hego and the Wego when they overwhelm the enemy.
as a thief she concentrated her training for more stealth and speed probably abandoning her superhero training methods too.
the amount of Damage they can take also goes to the firebenders favor, since we've seen them go through things that would easily injure shego, and just shrug it off.
that durability increases with the comets power, where they approach Dragon Ball Z levels of bodily harm, and still they survive.
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Post by Alexlayer on Sept 14, 2008 20:16:21 GMT -5
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