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Post by airwalker on Feb 6, 2006 23:02:43 GMT -5
I only really discovered this site recently and can see that this thread hasn't been responded to in a while but I just wanted to make a point or two if nobody minds.
Concerning STDrama:
Part of the problem that nobody mentions is that Kim is being unsuccessful with Ron in particular because Ron is, excluding Kim, mostly a loner. He's not only at the bottom of any food chain but outside of Kim, he doesn't exactly have anyone else he can turn to (besides Rufus which isn't much help in the situation he was in). Kim spends a good chunk of the episode expressing her problem to her friends and family. Ron on the other hand never actually has anyone to turn to or to prod him to move forward. His parents are completely absent from the movie which could have been due to keeping the movie running time down but in terms of plot it does highlight a problem that Kim just isn't seeing.
(As for Felix, he is Ron's friend but the truth is that he shows up twice in the series and Ron doesn't seem as close to him as Kim is to Monique. In fact Felix seems like someone Ron mainly turns to when he wants to do something he knows Kim is completely uninterested in like Video Games.)
The entire movie tries to emphasize Ron's immaturity but after all doesn't he really have a reason to act immature besides being afraid of changing the way things are? He doesn't exactly have the same forces pushing him towards maturity as Kim does. Ron could care less what Bonnie or anyone other than Kim (and maybe her parents) say about him. A semi-verbal naked mole rat is pretty much the only person he has to turn to for dating and growing advise. I'm not surpised he didn't do anything until he was pushed into it by a radical shock to the status quo in the form of Erik.
And to be honest, Kim isn't really that mature herself in terms of emotions; she's really being pushed a bit by Bonnie and her food chain talk. If she hadn't had to deal with that line of thought, I still think she would have been frustrated and unhappy with the lack of change between herself and Ron but that she would have stuck it out without seriously considering any sort of Erik character.
I will say that her major concern in the first half isn't really a problem with starting to date Ron but going to the prom with him as a "friend"; I mean thats got to sound to her sort of like paying a cousin to date her. It is a bit sad and depressed-thought provoking. She has a good point with that but the problem is that she isn't taking the problem to the source - she's been leading the duo for all this time and it never seems to enter her mind that he might be waiting for her to make a move while she is waiting for him to do something.
"Was Erik just a crush?" - Probably yes. The truth is that at that moment she was emotionally shaky and sort of on the rebound from Ron's failure to ask her out. (The scene where Ron confesses to Kim at the end of the movie - I never saw her as being on the Rebound from Erik when she was responsive to Ron's move as much as Erik was a rebound/interlude from what she had going on with Ron.) And while she did get sort of luvy-duvy with Erik, lets not forget that we can't be talking about anything more than a few days to two weeks. He was someone new, seemingly compatible, and interested at a time when she was feeling vulnerable and looking for something. Its sort of a whirlwind relationship. Even if he had been real and not evil, the odds would have been that the novelty of him would have worn off after a while. (Besides, he was a bit too good to be true; a robot designed to act that way I can believe but if he had been good human being, it would have been stretching it. No guy or girl for that matter is everything you've been looking for AND completely understanding of all your issues. Kim is a bossy perfectionist a lot of the time and she's been spoiled completely by the fact that Ron mostly not only puts up with it but accepts it cheerfully. She's not going to find any other long term partner in any sphere who'd be exactly the same. A few arguments and a human Erik would have worn on her nerves.)
Drakken's Plan - It was a good plan but sloppy; he really didn't take into account all the factors when dealing with Kim. Mainly Ron and the Ron Factor which I really think has some validity to it in the KP Universe. I can't really, completely blame Drakken in overlooking Ron because he was trying to keep his plan a secret. If he had brought Shego in on it and gotten some input then she could have pointed out the flaw of leaving out the sidekick, especially given some of the insight she got about Ron's feelings in Overdue. But ultimately if you really analyze all the Drakken defeats, isn't it usually (not always but a good chunk of the time) Ron who faces off against Drakken and defeats him (or his device) while Kim fights Shego? I wonder if he'll take that into account in his next plan. Cause you know there'll be a next plan. (And on a slight side note - Drakken couldn't build a decent robot girl but he seems to have done very well with robot boys.)
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Post by Levelord on Feb 7, 2006 1:12:02 GMT -5
Yeah, Drakken could have built a robot chick for Ron... Now that would TOTALLY distract Ron from revealing their plans to Kim. Plus, Ron won't have to worry about Kim and Erik. He'd be having his own dream girl to mess around with
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Feb 7, 2006 8:29:51 GMT -5
His reaction to Ron's intrusion, if repeated on other occasions, would have spelled the end pretty quickly. oh, definitely - *points to sig* see, this is one of the reasons why K/R happens almost by default - there's just NO ONE else who can relate to them on the variety of levels necessary to keep a relationship going, nevermind just a friendship. Monique discovered part of this when she went on that first abortive mission with Kim in SiT - she finds out that Kim instinctively assumes that Ron will be doing this or that and allow Kim to finish the job. When Monique stumbles around she destroys the synchronicity, which allows the bad guys to win that round. and it's really not that surprising - these two have been in sync literally for a decade or more! Going back to Pre-K where they first hooked up as friends it's been almost a solid decade of nothing but their friendship evolving into the mission mode where they know where each other is going to be without saying a word. Check out old married couples or those together for a goodly amount of time - they work around each other much in the same manner. NO ONE is going to be able to get into that closed circle without a lot of work - in SiT we even see poor old Rufus starting to work his way in and even HE takes years to work up to Kim's respect level where she'll give him team membership and not just good for pushing the melted cheese button at BN. The first time Erik said something to Kim like "Just ignore the Kimmunicator and let Ron do it" outside of a major event like the Prom she'd be upset and probably ready to head out the door. and from Erik's POV he's doomed from the start - he's trying to break into a closed system that's been building for years and only now come to adulthood with those darned hormones kicking in. ... dang, I'm good this morning. And without my cuppa tea yet. *wanders off*
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 7, 2006 8:49:01 GMT -5
I like that. I totally agree. I wish I had something to add to that. But, my brain hasn't kicked in yet.
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Post by Levelord on Feb 7, 2006 9:39:37 GMT -5
Wow, it usually takes HOURS for my brain to boot up I think it's a virus... which myseriously disappears when I take coffee
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 7, 2006 16:34:27 GMT -5
I'm usually okay by about 10 am ish.
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Post by cloudmonet on Feb 11, 2006 3:09:31 GMT -5
How'd I miss this thread's resurfacing? Well, good points, Airwalker and Aers. I can't think of anything to add right now that I haven't already said above.
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Post by airwalker on Feb 12, 2006 15:34:14 GMT -5
Synthodrone for Ron - It might have been an interesting angle for Drakken's plan to take (if he ever got around to thinking about dealing with Ron; his research focused exclusively on Kim and Kim alone when she clearly has a partner following her around) but its not entirely possible that it would have had the same effect on Ron that Erik had on Kim.
Thats not to say that Ron wouldn't have been interested if a beautiful girl suddenly took an interest in him but I don't seem him losing his head as much as Kim did with Erik. After all Ron wasn't really looking for a girlfriend or even a change in the status quo until Erik showed up. I don't know if he wouldn't have reacted any differently to an "Erika" than he had to Yori.
Kim on the other hand became pretty obsessive about landing herself a boyfriend. Its her focus throughout the entire movie; if Ron doesn't make a move then she'll settle for anyone. And Erik just happened to show up. Ron doesn't start moving on any feelings towards Kim until the status quo he had with Kim was completely destroyed. Thats pretty much when he started regrouping and moving in a new direction.
What I really wonder about is if Ron would have called Kim on her lack of maturity in the treehouse if the conversation had continued; she spends the movie complaining about how he's child-like and how its time to grow up but is it really that mature to want a relationship just because everyone else is in one rather than because you've found someone you can fall in love with? Or because your rival talking about status and food-chains and appearances? She clearly wanted Ron to ask her out and when he didn't she latched on pretty strongly to the first person who showed interest. She latches on so desperately to the idea of having a boyfriend that she completely threw her guard down in Bueno Nacho Headquaters, running right into his arms. Even Erik was a bit suprised. I loved that line he had: "I didn't know you cared so much." And this was after she chewed Ron out for his lack of focus a few minutes before. The only difference between her immaturity and Ron's is that she's being immature about mature concepts like dating and social status.
(And is Ron really being that immature? He freaks out over Nakasumi's designs but we've already established that he leans a bit toward the geek side from the end of MonkeyFist Strikes; it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to assume he might build models too. And his "zooming by" on his scooter that reestablishes his "immaturity", is more a statement on lack of money and mechanical skill than on anything else. I will admit to being sympathetic to Ron in the examples I've given, mainly because I was broke and dying for a ride of my own throughout high school; I probably would have acted the same way he did if I had the scooter he did. And while I never built models, I was into sci-fi and animation so I could see how he would get so enthusiastic. He is a teenager and I think Kim was blowing things out of proportion.)
K/R By Default - I like the two of them together and I'm glad that STDrama ended with them together AND I agree that given the type of experiences they have had, they were most likely going to end up in a relationship or ultimately both single and staring at each other. BUT I don't think that it had to be absolutely written in stone; given enough of a disruption they could have been driven in opposite or at least different directions. Erik could have been the disruption if Ron hadn't handled it as maturely as he did in the end. After all the immature thing to do would have been to confront Kim at the prom or at her house during the pizza dinner. (She was skeptical about the Diablo attack for a while when he did show up at the prom; imagine if he showed up and pressed the issues he never got to in the treehouse?) Instead he bowed out and was prepared to spend the night alone. The question I wonder about is how she would have reacted if the treehouse conversation had continued or if Erik hadn't revealed himself as a synthodrone when he did. Would she have been as receptive to Ron now that she landed herself a boyfriend? And especially one that seemed to fit not just all her expectations but also a pretty decent spot on the food chain?
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Post by cloudmonet on Feb 14, 2006 0:47:44 GMT -5
Not something Drakken would think of doing. At least up until the final rooftop scene, Drakken has it firmly in mind that the "buffoon," whatever his name is, is unimportant, despite being defeated by Ron repeatedly, and as recently as the "Hypertronic devastator drone" incident at the start of "Rappin Drakken."
Kim's behavior could be looked at this way, but I don't think Ron would do it, for two reasons. 1) He doesn't think this way. 2) By this time he pretty clearly wants Kim, and isn't going to say something that will put her off. His careful consideration of the sitch as he's dressing for the prom shows this.
Ron looks immature to Kim. What she really wants from him, what she's seemed to want through season 3, is for Ron to step up and become her boyfriend. But Ron keeps retreating toward childhood times, the treehouse scene being an excellent example of this, because that's when he felt closest to Kim, but at the same time that's what's turning her off. Do you see the dilemma? It wouldn't be a problem at all if either one of them actually opened a dialog about the relationship, as Ron finally does near the end, but they're both tonguetied and scared about this stuff. The way Ron finally broaches the subject is proof of his loyalty, value, and maturity, in addition to his love.
Kim was clearly torn in half by Ron's reactions to Erik. Watch her face.
But would she have given Erik up for Ron? That's unknowable, but if Erik was real, but still had the negative characteristics he occasionally reveals, Erik and Kim probably would not have lasted as a couple. The real question is, would Kim claim Ron before Yori got to him? On Kim's side, there really is no one in the world who can replace Ron, but there is someone Ron knows who's at least a halfway decent substitute for Kim! She's really lucky Erik was just a synthodrone, if you look at the possibilities beyond just the movie.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 14, 2006 8:37:14 GMT -5
I guess I need to rewatch So The Drama again for the... what has it been? I'm gonna guess... 1000th time.
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Post by airwalker on Feb 14, 2006 20:08:22 GMT -5
I just wish that someone had brought it up a little more openly, thats all. Her mother pretty much implies it in the telephone conversation they have but never actually comes out and says it. Its a good plot counterpoint to all her loud commentary on Ron. I see it; youth is wasted on the young! I got it more from her hesitant reaction to being asked to go to the prom; after all it was exactly what she wanted to happen and she wasn't what I'd call even mildly happy about it. While it is unknowable if she would have given up Erik for Ron I do think about it whenever I watch that scene. And I'm not so sure that she would have picked Ron at that moment. Her big goal throughout the movie isn't so much love as much as it is the status symbol of a boyfriend. Having Erik as one not only gives her that but also allows for her to at the very least pretend that she can keep everything best-friendish with Ron, exactly as it always has been. Thats a hard thing for her to have to give up and I wonder if she would have done it at that moment. As for real Erik and Kim lasting as a couple, I don't think that she could really last with anyone but Ron. Once the novelty of having a boyfriend wore off, she and a real Erik would have drifted apart just like she did with Josh. The real question is would Ron still be a viable option at that point? Keeping Yori out of the equation for the moment, I think that Kim's choice of a real Erik would have been a breaking point. If Ron was willing to give up when Kim hooked up with Josh, I think that he'd probably do the same with Erik. Except this time he might imagine some more solid measure of finality to it and might have been willing to move on. Consider - a real Erik and Kim relationship would have stretched at least into senior year. By the time Kim would have sorted that out, everyone would be on their way to college. And a slightly drifted away Ron might have been tempted to put a little more distance between himself and Kim. Thats a really good point; I don't think that, outside of Ron, Kim could have a stable, long term relationship. She's a pretty bossy, stubborn, adventure addicted perfectionist who has to be in the know and in charge most of the time. Even with looks, thats a pretty hard personality to deal with if you haven't been around her since childhood. She's never going to find anyone who'd behave (and to a certain extent, spoil her) the way that Ron does. For all of his immaturity and laziness, he's a pretty tall order for her to compare other relationships against. Ron on the other hand has the possibility of better luck as he gets older. He always struck me as being a sort of late bloomer who'd probably hit his groove in college, probably in a much easier way than Kim would. (She's a great fit for the social and political world of high school but college is a whole other ballpark and I think that she'd sink a bit before she'd be able to swim when she got there; Ron on the other hand gives off the vibe of someone who'd blend into college instantly.) He's lazy and can be irresponsible and immature but then again he is a teenage boy in the series. I know lots of slackers in high school who behaved the way he did and grew out of it as they got older. I picture some sort of role reversal when they got to college with Ron being on the inside socially and able to generate some interest from the opposite sex. If Kim and Ron had been interrupted by a real Erik then I don't see Ron having as bleak a time as Kim would relationshipwise.
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Post by cloudmonet on Feb 19, 2006 3:14:42 GMT -5
You win the shippy remark of the mouth with this one, airwalker! Another great post for my collection. Yours ranks with the greats, such as this one from Aers:
and this from dragoonbigl:
And this from Porphyria Kris:
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Post by GnuHopper on Mar 24, 2006 19:59:03 GMT -5
Shoot...I just noticed the threads with the Reevaluations of seasons one and two have been deleted. There was some great discussions in those and I never saved them -- does anyone have an archived copy of either? I'd love to have copies if anyone can forward them.
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Post by cloudmonet on Mar 25, 2006 0:56:53 GMT -5
Oh, really? I'm as mad as hell.
Well, whatever, it's their space. I didn't collect nearly as much as I should have, I guess. I didn't think there'd be any reason for these threads to vanish. Maybe they're just deleting anything that's been inactive for a long time. It's a shame. These were good references.
I do have copies of some of my own reevaluations from season 2— I wasn't aboard till we were nearly done with season 1.
I'm working on HTML-ing these, and I'll put them on my own website as I get them together.
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Post by dracko19 on Mar 25, 2006 2:41:42 GMT -5
Cloud, chill. Those threads weren't deleted by me. I'm not sure what happened. I'll try and find out.
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Post by dracko19 on Mar 25, 2006 2:51:48 GMT -5
I don't see it in here. Its not impossible that it got delted by accident. There were a few users who were causing great mischief in some posts and posting stuff that could cause a TOS complaint. Those threads are what I'm focusing on. Its possible one of these mischief users posted some questionable stuff inside that thread and rather than delete all his/her mischief, I may have deleted the post without checking the title or location of the thread. I assure you that if it was deleted by me (and it is possible) it was completely unintentional. My apologies to anyone that this upset or effected. It was completely by accident.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 25, 2006 19:59:59 GMT -5
Well, I'm finnaly making my first post in this thread.
This thread isn't going to be deleted isn't?
What I'm going to say is general.
First the series shows us from episode that Kim and Ron have infact a deeper relationship thatn just best frineds, after all how else could a relationship last thirteen years. I even dare to say that they may even have developed strong platonic feelings at a young age.
The series gives us a wide arrange of clues, such as backgrounds, quotes, reactions, looks, the fact that those two easily solve their issues, the care and worriness they have for each other. Most of these clues are concrete, I mean, visible, others aren't shown visually neither psychologically but the turn out of events is the clue it self and even the entire script of the chapters.
Psychology in KP is always present, KP has most of the times a strong psychological deepness, others it doesn't. The creators of KP are K/P shippers and that's for sure.
Kim and Ron have certainly developed strong feeligns at a young age. Subconsciously they are in fact in love, consciously they aren't aware of this, maybe because they are quite used to another's presence, or because the way they react to one another is so close to love or even love that they simply don't identify it as love, beause they are used to it. Most of their reactions are somewhat subconscious but sometimes they do have some perception of what's happening.
Kim has shown from ep 1 that she cares deeply for Ron, and of course loves him. Her reactions of proudness, care, protection for Ron are tipical girlfriend reactions. She wants the boy to excel and easily forgives him, sh may get angry with him but she quickly forgets it. Even in times of greater distance between she and Ron she still gives him attention.
She has always showned that she loves him at a subsconcious level. Despide Ron's backlaid attitude and lazyness, she still wants him on the team, wether it's due to the obligation that she has in keeping Ron in the team or because she simply can't get angry at him, thus showing subconcious love. Kim's over protective attitude of Ron(which happens to be another clue), makes her some what blind of Ron's abilities, although also due to her ego she may underestimate the boy.
Never when Ron failed she abandoned him(I think), she wants him to succed. Despite Ron's social status and achievements, she still wants him around and her behaviour towards him almost never changes. She may have even been "charmed" subconciously by Ron's easy going, relaxed and caring attitude, but also especialy his goofy attitude, making him a funny dude.
Without almost any doubt Kim loves Ron subconsciously and this love has always been there. In moments of greater shippiness, I think that Kim may realize something by a possible strange feeling that she almost without any doubt feels, that's why she has those more sensitive/caring reactions towards Ron, and this is shown especially by the physical contact and emotional contact. These moments are trigered when Ron does anything more mature or proves himself good at something. Kim feels realized and happy by this, as well as proud of her Ron, and this triggers the subconcious loves he has for him at a more conscious level. She may realize it or not, but all of her reactions come from her love towards him. Consciously she may think that the reason of her reaction is that she is happy with Ron's victory, and she also feels this strong feeling of wanting Ron to be close to her, or accepting his touch, simply what i am trying to say is that her feeling for him become more close and intense. This is consiously, but subconciously it's nothing more than pure love.
Kim at a conscious level may have thought of Ron as a boyfriend for a long time and she has indeed been in denial, thus she directs her attention to other guys. Over the time(season 1 2 3) she has slowly adandoned this idea, wether it's because she is growing up, because Ron proves to be worthy of her, because her relationships with other guys aren't that sucesseful, or a mix of all this. Personaly I think it's the first reason, she growing up and the realized that Ron is the only one right for her, also her unsucesseful dates may have made her think that maybe all those other guys aren't that worth it, look carefully and you will see that there is a reason why she is always changing crushes.
Disney also puts some more "irrational" ideas to show Kim and Ron's love bound, giving every possible reason for their love to happen. The creators themselves are K/R shippers.
More info about Ron will follow, and well as StD and others occasions.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 25, 2006 21:28:52 GMT -5
Just some more thoughts:
Kim' s conscious feelings for Ron also intesify greatly when Ron does something that makes her confident. One of my theories of why she can do a lot, is that she has a great confidence in herself, and sometimes she is overconfident. But there are times when she has some lack of it, and that's when Ron gives her some confidence by saying that she can do anything. Ron's not trying to make Kim go all ego, altough she does bask into it sometimes, he's only trying to give her confidence and since Ron is Kim's emotional anchor, ot does mean a lot to her, and during those times it intensifies the feeling she has for him. Not that it wouldn't take much in Ron's case to conquer Kim's affections and "love" well, for reasons we all know.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 26, 2006 8:24:28 GMT -5
More thoughts:
We all know that Ron is random, imature and quite distracted. UNlike Kim, who has been in denial, Ron was simply to distracted to notice Kim was right beside him, even I season 3 when Kim gave clear signs of her affections, and the same could be siad about Yori. Only in StD did he wake up, and realized this.
Ron's way of showing his subconcious love towards Kim is by always being on her side, and by giving her confidence. Normaly when Kim is in situations like these, Ron knows that he can help her and know that he is the one who most affects her, thus he supports her. Ron knows that Kim gets quite big headed sometimes with her motto and pride, but this won't stop him to give her confidence, after all, he doesn't want to make her big headed, he wants only to help her and this is one of the very few thigns the devouts himself to, which is helping, protecting, although this is rare indeed, because of two things, Ron is lazy most of the times and concerning most subjects, and Kim doesn't need his help in most things. And finally he wants to support her.
Ron never backed off Kim from him, he wants her near her, because of his lazyness and also because he wants to support her in anyway.
Ron being protective, yes it has been shown, although Ron most of the time sisn't the knd of protective guy, and his main way of proctecting is both non violent and psychological, there are still rare occasions when he does get violent about this such as ASiT, for reasons you have mentioned earlier in this thread.
Although Ron is quite distracted, he does care a great deal about Kim, the sole object of his devotion. He knows Kim can get big headed about her accomplishments and may even get angry when Kim ignores him and somewhat doesn't believe that he has abilities, but still he gives her confidence, puting aside all of Kim's behavioural consequences, and also knows that although she can do a lot, and so does he, he knows that she may get blind (a thing that happens sometimes in the series) about the reality of situations and then may get in big trouble and thus he turns out to the the number one factor in Kim's life.
Ever since the beginning Ron has loved Kim's praise, maybe because he wants to be praised but maybe because also she wants "his" Kim to praise him, he wants her affection, a clear sign that he loves her and would adore a situation if she would love him.
Despite Ron'ssocial status, the fact that he is always joked from everyone, and other problems, he still maintains most of the times a healthy/calm atitude. Yes he does have a most relaxed, easy attitude, and this solves all of his problems concerning this but also from the fact that Kim is always there for him, she gives the boy confidence, wants him to succed, nurtures him in every way, cares for him, and this makes Ron realize that there are people that care about him, and that the life he has is still worth going on.
Another theory of mine is that in the ep Past in a ASiT he shows to have a serious and "rulish" attitude but when Kim entered in his life that made him losen up like an elephant and now he is the Ron we all know. It is true that the personality of a person may change without any interference but the reality is that it changes especially due to this outer interference.
My theory is that if Ron maintained his original attitude, if he had the same life he had in the series and there was no Kim around, he would have realized his genius at a younger age and due to be way everyone would treat him, he would become the world's number one villain. I say this because until now there is no better villain than him.
I won't write everything now, more will follow.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 26, 2006 11:20:42 GMT -5
More thoughts: We all know that Ron is random, imature and quite distracted. UNlike Kim, who has been in denial, Ron was simply to distracted to notice Kim was right beside him, even I season 3 when Kim gave clear signs of her affections, and the same could be siad about Yori. Only in StD did he wake up, and realized this. Ron's way of showing his subconcious love towards Kim is by always being on her side, and by giving her confidence. Normaly when Kim is in situations like these, Ron knows that he can help her and knows that he is the one who most affects her, thus he supports her. Ron knows that Kim gets quite big headed sometimes with her motto and pride, but this won't stop him to give her confidence, after all, he doesn't want to make her big headed, he wants only to help her and this is one of the very few thigns the devouts himself to, which is helping, protecting, although this is rare indeed, because of two things, Ron is lazy most of the times and concerning most subjects, and Kim doesn't need his help in most things. And finally he wants to support her. Ron never backed off Kim from him, he wants her near her, because of his lazyness and also because he wants to support her in anyway. Ron being protective, yes it has been shown, although Ron most of the time sisn't the knd of protective guy, and his main way of proctecting is both non violent and psychological, there are still rare occasions when he does get violent about this such as ASiT, for reasons you have mentioned earlier in this thread. Although Ron is quite distracted, he does care a great deal about Kim, the sole object of his devotion. He knows Kim can get big headed about her accomplishments and may even get angry when Kim ignores him and somewhat doesn't believe that he has abilities, but still he gives her confidence, puting aside all of Kim's behavioural consequences, and also knows that although she can do a lot, and so does he, he knows that she may get blind (a thing that happens sometimes in the series) about the reality of situations and then may get in big trouble and thus he turns out to the the number one factor in Kim's life. Ever since the beginning Ron has loved Kim's praise, maybe because he wants to be praised but maybe because also she wants "his" Kim to praise him, he wants her affection, a clear sign that he loves her and would adore a situation if she would love him. Despite Ron'ssocial status, the fact that he is always joked from everyone, and other problems, he still maintains most of the times a healthy/calm atitude. Yes he does have a most relaxed, easy attitude, and this solves all of his problems concerning this but also from the fact that Kim is always there for him, she gives the boy confidence, wants him to succed, nurtures him in every way, cares for him, and this makes Ron realize that there are people that care about him, and that the life he has is still worth going on. Another theory of mine is that in the ep Past in a ASiT he shows to have a serious and "rulish" attitude but when Kim entered in his life that made him losen up like an elephant and now he is the Ron we all know. It is true that the personality of a person may change without any interference but the reality is that it changes especially due to this outer interference. My theory is that if Ron maintained his original attitude, if he had the same life he had in the series and there was no Kim around, he would have realized his genius at a younger age and due to be way everyone would treat him, he would become the world's number one villain. I say this because until now there is no better villain than him. I won't write everything now, more will follow. The reason it took Ron so much time to admit and accept his thoughts about Kim is not only because of his unfocussed nature, but also because he has a poor understanding of girls. However, already in Emotion Sickness Ron told that he had already thought of what it would be like to date Kim, this shows us that he's more open towards this change and also more conscious that his relationship between he and Kim may be deeper that what it seems, but out of fear he doesn't move on with it because he was afraid it would ruin their friendship, this shows that Kim means the world to Ron. This also tells us that his feelings for KP may have become conscious and even at a more younger age he may have started to see Kim in a hole new light. His fear that their friendship may be ruined because of that also tells us why Ron is season 3 has always ignored Kim and taken refuge in childhood themes. It's ironic that two people that know practically each other's thoughts in just about everything and are both somewhat know that they are in love with the other vice-versa, are afraid to move on because Ron thinks that he is not worthy of Kim, and is very lucky to have her, still she means the world to him. And Kim has been mostly in denial with Ron, although she has a relationship with the boy that surpases all others as well as her feelings for him, wants to help him in everything, and protect him. Even when that love is shown in her reactions and even somewhat at a conscious level, which makes her have all those strong emotions for him, she still doesn't realize that is in fact the love she has for him. More will follow.
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