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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 26, 2006 16:21:44 GMT -5
The reason it took Ron so much time to admit and accept his thoughts about Kim is not only because of his unfocussed nature, but also because he has a poor understanding of girls. However, already in Emotion Sickness Ron told that he had already thought of what it would be like to date Kim, this shows us that he's more open towards this change and also more conscious that his relationship between he and Kim may be deeper that what it seems, but out of fear he doesn't move on with it because he was afraid it would ruin their friendship, this shows that Kim means the world to Ron. This also tells us that his feelings for KP may have become conscious and even at a more younger age he may have started to see Kim in a hole new light. His fear that their friendship may be ruined because of that also tells us why Ron is season 3 has always ignored Kim and taken refuge in childhood themes. It's ironic that two people that know practically each other's thoughts in just about everything and are both somewhat know that they are in love with the other vice-versa, are afraid to move on because Ron thinks that he is not worthy of Kim, and is very lucky to have her, still she means the world to him. And Kim has been mostly in denial with Ron, although she has a relationship with the boy that surpases all others as well as her feelings for him, wants to help him in everything, and protect him. Even when that love is shown in her reactions and even somewhat at a conscious level, which makes her have all those strong emotions for him, she still doesn't realize that is in fact the love she has for him. More will follow. One more thing, the reson why Kim never abandoned Ron due to his backlaid attitude in the missions is because of: 1: He is her best friend, she simply can't expel him. 2: She has her own unique way of dealing with Ron. 3: She knows that Ron isn't a jerk without any abilities, and she wants the boy to excel. But this goes againt some things such as the fact that she is blind and sometimes ceptical about Ron's abilities, she shows this lack of belief because of her ego. But then again, in KP there are some concepts that go against others especially concerning the Kim/Ron relationship. 5: Due to her subconscious love towards Ron, this affects her reations when dealing with him during his failiours. She is more tolerant, when he fails she wants to give him confidence, and she never gets angry with him (I think). Emotionally I think she has a mix of compreensive feelings towards him which makes her more caring, makes her more mindful about he fact that he is worried about his failiour than the failiour itself.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 27, 2006 16:26:18 GMT -5
A little theory I have pondering in my head. (and forgive me if my idea is slightly out of order) First these toys are solid filled metal toys, instead of the normal hollow plastic toys. (which would make them probibbly heavier then normal, but besides the point.) When the single occurs, the toys begin to grow, and using the materials from within becomes a shell, while it is growing it basically absorbs what trace materials it needs to grow from the surrounding eviroment, (mainly metal i would think or if somehow the project is able to convert carbon (wood) into metal at the monuclar level at a high rate of speed needed. Now if remeber that Kim says to her dad, asking that the hepetus project was "...somekind of living metal?" He replies "...can repair, modify itself. It can acutally grow." Well to grow it needs an outside source. and since it can modify what it "eats" it can continue to grow weakening what ever it eating from, like termites do to wood. That I think would explain the growth, not the shrinking. I am not sure. Becuase it shows it needs a constant single to keep in the growth factor, which means alot of energy are being transfered in those single/sound waves to keep all those robots in the large state, otherwise it rubberbands back into mostly harmless toy state. What would happen to the material used to make it grow, when it shrunk? possibly used as energy to perform it last instructions it was told to do. Weather it be to fly or fight. Hopefully I made sense to someone who can understand my rambling and make it clearer for someone else. No, it's the space between the molecules, it gets bigger, maybe it's liek something similar to the reaction of the hydrogen bridges when water turn into ice. The only flaw about this is that the robot would have the same mass, thus being quite easy to lift, heck even a wind blow is enough to lift it. But the resistance and sterngth of the material could be quite strong and you know why? Because of those same bridges between the molecules, which would make the molecules connections to one another quite strong, and creating strong connections between the molecules. Of course that this would have many other effects in the omega diablo bots. The connection would happen because the diablo bots molecules are polar. The material would be of a very low density density, but this would doens't mean that he material isn't resistant or strong. I may think of something else.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 27, 2006 17:02:45 GMT -5
Wow! She's even stronger than I thought! I can't wait to see your analysis of how the diablo robots gain and lose enough mass to crush a table in response to a signal or its absence. Violation of the conservation of mass bothers me more than Kim able to grip a hairdryer with 4115.64 kg (9054.42 lbs). For that matter, how can Shego fly a jet slowly enough to circle between skyscrapers? You couldn't drive a car at sixty mph around that hairpin, if the streets were empty. At least we don't have people standing in midair till they notice they're standing in midair, or running through brick walls leaving a silhouette of passage! Everything about the jet-dangling sequence has, "Don't try this at home. These are cartoon professionals," written all over it, but it's one of the most exciting action sequences ever animated, and I'm not about to dis it because Kim has mysterious powers of holding on and slowing down. You didn't even mention the way they initially seem to fall at different speeds, and Kim speeds herself up somehow to catch Nakasumi! Which reminds me of one of my favorite bits from Segar's original Popeye strip from the 1930s: Some villain wants Popeye killed and hires a thug to shoot him, who walks up to him, and at point-blank range, fires five bullets into his chest. Popeye coughs five times, spits the bullets back at the thug's face, then says, "Whatsa matter? Ya think I yam a sissy?" and throws a punch that knocks the thug backwards through the air, adding, "Ya blastid swab!" Kim's a lot like the original newspaper Popeye-- not obviously a superhero, but when she really needs to do an astonishing stunt, her "muskles" are also like steel wires. No cloudmonet, Kim doesn't have super strength, KP simply has many moments in which the laws of physics are totaly ignored because of the fun/action factor, nothing else. In fact according with what the series tells us(and those clues and proof are not "at the spur of the moment"), Ron does have super strength as a consequence of his monkey power and lots of proof is shown about his. 1: The tree he destroys. It's not at the spur of the moment, it's is monkey power, although he was able to use it this time, it's the why that it matters, the creators wanted him to use his MMP because they wanted him to something funny or goofy once again because of the fun factor, and in the end he is unsuccessful in showing himself as good ninja material. 2: The rock that he stomps nad literaly cracks in in a radius of 15 to 20 meters! WOW! That takes strength of about a 100 men of even more, depending on the type of the rock. It's not simply because of the crack but it's the radius mainly. 3: Sitch in Time. Kim couldn't even make Drakken make one step backwards with her strongest kick. The move that Ron made is like this, lissen: First he uses onlt one hand to lift Drakken entire body into air, without touching the ground, and then the uses both hands with a strength to throw Drakeen at a distance of about 15-20 meters and also enough to make the super heavy statue of Shego literaly fly, now imagine what distance could Drakken go if he hadn't crashed against that statue. No Taechunsa, the angle is not to be put in consideration, because with the angle Drakken had, he would probally stop about 30 meters from Ron, but if it was a 100% horizontal throw, he could go about 40 meters or more(no calculations). All of this is not at the "Spur of the moment" because Ron has proof on his side. Cloudmonet, I know that you, just like me and everyone here are true KP fans, but I think you are greatly exagerating about what Kim can do. No hard feelings, right? It's all about the fun factor no more than that. Think about this, they have never put and will never put Kim in a situation that would imediatly put you think that it's impossible, unless Kim has super strength, which she doens't. But that happens with Ron and if you think about it, you will find a significant amount of proof showing that Ron has super strength. Those situations like the tree destroyed and others in Exchange and other eps are super obvious without the slightest excuse against the theory. In Ron's case it clearly requires super strength. But, Ron is a comical relief, and I and even happy that this super strength business happens rarely. I like the image of a Ron that is funny, goofy, clumsy(although the clumbsiness only tells us that the kid has a serious lack of self confidence and doesn't beliee in himself) but when in times of need, he shows to have extreme potential in many things. Damm it, I'm indeed horrible with sarcasm... ;D
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Post by PossibleKim on Mar 27, 2006 19:42:39 GMT -5
1)Actually the tree that was destroy had been cut before. If you see properly, the tree had a fine cut. Usually, it is like putting 2 stuff together and nock one out. However, how did he cut the tree first in the first place is beyong my reason.
2) Actually that had been done in the olden days, Matrial art espcially the old ones perforemd a skill call Tshu-Hai. It is a chi force that can deliver the strength of 20 men in a very close combat. The distnace between the plam and the object contact is less than 3 centimetrs. When relased the energy, they stomp the ground so hard that some people believe can bring down the enitre reinforced concrete ceilling down. However, because of this technique is hard to learn and dangerous. The inventor and other who managed to learn it decided not to teach it to others so the the youngster does not used them for bad purpose. (There is also a story in World war 2 where the chinese can use the coins to pentrate bullet proof armour and also a neelde that can penetrate through thick glass. They used this sill to fight out the japanese soildier.)
Can't argue with number 3 though
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Post by cloudmonet on Mar 28, 2006 0:51:26 GMT -5
Thorius, both Kim and Ron have pulled off feats of incredible strength if analysed, like the grappling hook catch from the fall from Shego's jet, by a physics expert. The martial arts tree chop was no more or less a joke than some of Kim's feats. Both Kim and Ron could win any Olympics gymnastic event if cartoons were allowed to compete.
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As for the expansion in both size and mass of the diablo robots, I must confess this is a poser. One can rule out assimilation from surrounding material, because as much material would have to be absorbed as the diablo mass increase. This would be noticeable if solids were converted. One can also rule out converting gases or energy into solid matter. Too much would be required. The best I can offer is to suggest that the diablos are multidimensional objects drawn into the three dimensions of our space by the control signal. Most of the mass is, in the absence of this signal, somewhere else.
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Kim would never abandon Ron because 1) Though she may not understand how, she knows Ron helps her succeed. 2) Ron gives her the emotional support and confidence she needs. He's her personal cheerleader.
Kim's opened herself up to him just by having him at her side for so many years. Yeah, the official doctrine is "She can do anything," but Kim wouldn't continue believing this without Ron's support, and only he knows she needs this support.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 28, 2006 6:27:28 GMT -5
1)Actually the tree that was destroy had been cut before. If you see properly, the tree had a fine cut. Usually, it is like putting 2 stuff together and nock one out. However, how did he cut the tree first in the first place is beyong my reason. 2) Actually that had been done in the olden days, Matrial art espcially the old ones perforemd a skill call Tshu-Hai. It is a chi force that can deliver the strength of 20 men in a very close combat. The distnace between the plam and the object contact is less than 3 centimetrs. When relased the energy, they stomp the ground so hard that some people believe can bring down the enitre reinforced concrete ceilling down. However, because of this technique is hard to learn and dangerous. The inventor and other who managed to learn it decided not to teach it to others so the the youngster does not used them for bad purpose. (There is also a story in World war 2 where the chinese can use the coins to pentrate bullet proof armour and also a neelde that can penetrate through thick glass. They used this sill to fight out the japanese soildier.) Can't argue with number 3 though the tactics I can't argue with, but the way how the tree was destroyed doesn't mean that the tree has been cut before. 1: We had no clue or proof that the tree had been cut before. The way the tree was cut simply happened to be that way. But, hahaha, if you see it carefuuly cut will see that the tree cracked when Ron kicked it, it simply was afected that way. If the tree had been cut beofre, we wouldn't have seen any of efects that happened when Ron hit the tree, by the way if the had been cut before, it had gone sideways. As for the tactic well it shows us one thing, and it's that he is one very skilled fighter and has already learned super advanced techniques that are quite dangerous and complicated well, it shows that he boy has strong will and brain power as well as well, "spirit power", and that doesn't have anything to do with his MMP, just like in many other occasions.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 28, 2006 10:47:26 GMT -5
Thorius, both Kim and Ron have pulled off feats of incredible strength if analysed, like the grappling hook catch from the fall from Shego's jet, by a physics expert. The martial arts tree chop was no more or less a joke than some of Kim's feats. Both Kim and Ron could win any Olympics gymnastic event if cartoons were allowed to compete. - - - - - - - - - - As for the expansion in both size and mass of the diablo robots, I must confess this is a poser. One can rule out assimilation from surrounding material, because as much material would have to be absorbed as the diablo mass increase. This would be noticeable if solids were converted. One can also rule out converting gases or energy into solid matter. Too much would be required. The best I can offer is to suggest that the diablos are multidimensional objects drawn into the three dimensions of our space by the control signal. Most of the mass is, in the absence of this signal, somewhere else. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kim would never abandon Ron because 1) Though she may not understand how, she knows Ron helps her succeed. 2) Ron gives her the emotional support and confidence she needs. He's her personal cheerleader. Kim's opened herself up to him just by having him at her side for so many years. Yeah, the official doctrine is "She can do anything," but Kim wouldn't continue believing this without Ron's support, and only he knows she needs this support. BLACK MATTER! HAHAHAHA! (I seriously doubt this)
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Post by cloudmonet on Mar 28, 2006 13:26:54 GMT -5
Dark matter? Would it be noticeable in the Possible living room? Probably. It's just hard to find in outer space. If gravity doesn't exactly follow the inverse square law because of some arcanities of spacetime geometry, dark matter might not even exist, despite the apparent abundance of the stuff. It's one of those "wait and see" bits of astronomy.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 28, 2006 14:05:35 GMT -5
1)Actually the tree that was destroy had been cut before. If you see properly, the tree had a fine cut. Usually, it is like putting 2 stuff together and nock one out. However, how did he cut the tree first in the first place is beyong my reason. 2) Actually that had been done in the olden days, Matrial art espcially the old ones perforemd a skill call Tshu-Hai. It is a chi force that can deliver the strength of 20 men in a very close combat. The distnace between the plam and the object contact is less than 3 centimetrs. When relased the energy, they stomp the ground so hard that some people believe can bring down the enitre reinforced concrete ceilling down. However, because of this technique is hard to learn and dangerous. The inventor and other who managed to learn it decided not to teach it to others so the the youngster does not used them for bad purpose. (There is also a story in World war 2 where the chinese can use the coins to pentrate bullet proof armour and also a neelde that can penetrate through thick glass. They used this sill to fight out the japanese soildier.) Can't argue with number 3 though the tactics I can't argue with, but the way how the tree was destroyed doesn't mean that the tree has been cut before. 1: We had no clue or proof that the tree had been cut before. The way the tree was cut simply happened to be that way. But, hahaha, if you see it carefuuly cut will see that the tree cracked when Ron kicked it, it simply was afected that way. If the tree had been cut beofre, we wouldn't have seen any of efects that happened when Ron hit the tree, by the way if the had been cut before, it had gone sideways. As for the tactic well it shows us one thing, and it's that he is one very skilled fighter and has already learned super advanced techniques that are quite dangerous and complicated well, it shows that he boy has strong will and brain power as well as well, "spirit power", and that doesn't have anything to do with his MMP, just like in many other occasions. Make yours own conclusions about this, but I've got other theories: Why did Ron make that "CHI/Spiritual" attack and others: 1: Although with training, everyone could perfom those attacks, but I mean with alot of training becasue these techniques are quite difficult and dangerous to perfom, maybe the monkey power makes it easier for Ron to aquire new skills because it changes his mental state. But in terms of knowledge it would only give it's owner monkey kung-fu, the rest is for the owner to learn for it self. 2: This may be simply entirely Ron's work, and thus the kid must be praised for that because in just a few daws he was able to perform one of the most difficult moves in marital art world, that even for some of the best is still quite difficult, because it requires an enourmous will power, the required mental state, lots of training and not to mention the require control over one's CHI/KI. Of course that Ron won't be doing this all the time, he wouldn't be able to do it, but to do such a feat with soo little training must indicate that the boy has great potential and can one day be one of the best in the world. 3: Finally(and I think this would be most realistic one) is that this wasn't in the MMP arsenal but the MMP would help psychologically and in terms of focusing spiritual power to do this, I also put the theory that MMP besides from offering monkey kung-fu(with enchanced strength) it would also amplify the efficiency in all other martial arts, for instance a normal Tshu-Hai would have in a great majority of times only the strength of 20 men and wouldn't destroy rock or concrete but a Tshu-Hai with MMP would have the strength of a hundred men and would destroy rock and concrete in a great majority of times and with relatively little effort, after the move, even the user it would even fell tired. Other thing is that MMP besides from the enchanced strength, doesn't give anything more to the person that he doesn't have, the only that it would give is that it would make the person be more easily able to control it's spiritual power(CHI/KI) and would make the person be able to better grasp other martial arts and have a superior technique, after all, the Tshu-Hai, along with other more ancient and destructive attacks are mostly about technique(angle precision, exact presure, bla bla bla) End of theories. About MMP: The question why Ron was chosen may not be that difficult, maybe it's because destinny new that the kid would have great fighting potential and thus he was chosen, but who knows? As for what the MMP gives, the MMP only gives knowledge of the MMP arts instinctively, and although they act somewhat by instinct, their "instinct" is still quite affected by ones abilities, that would justily why Ron is best MMP user. Besides from having impressive dodging skills, he has good fighting abilities maybe because of his quick thinking and his nack for tactics, bu tthis may not be right. Although logical is his game, he still most likely wouldn't be able to puse this as effectively as in order situations because he is nervous and the stress is high, making him unable to think or even make a simple thought, although I think that this quality of his would still reveal itself sometimes through one of another quite impressive move because it would be also a subconscious reaction. Technically, since Ron is quite gifted in logics, he would create tactics that would seen logical to him(and don't forget this, what makes sence to him, is quite easy to think of). These tactics would be instant reactions, obvious that the boy wouldn't be thinking for about 2 second for each move that he makes. And don't also forget about Ron's other abilities.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 28, 2006 14:10:37 GMT -5
Dark matter? Would it be noticeable in the Possible living room? Probably. It's just hard to find in outer space. If gravity doesn't exactly follow the inverse square law because of some arcanities of spacetime geometry, dark matter might not even exist, despite the apparent abundance of the stuff. It's one of those "wait and see" bits of astronomy. Well, Dark Matter would be most likely(theory only) neutrinos, quarks and bosons. Those are the particles that would make out for the remaining "hidden mass", but I think they are still trying to confirm if neutrinos have mass, much less the other particles. This would require an almost total different field of quantum physics.
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Post by cloudmonet on Mar 29, 2006 0:35:50 GMT -5
Last I heard, neutrinos have mass, just not very much.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 29, 2006 6:24:24 GMT -5
Last I heard, neutrinos have mass, just not very much. I've written maybe because I wasn0t sure about it, but thanks for confirming Cloudmonet! The concept of mass is a difficuly one, but one of the theories that may better explain it is the super rope theory. Maybe mass in an interaction of some of these "ropes" and energy(electrons) may have some "ropes" that mass doesn't have.
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Post by cloudmonet on Mar 29, 2006 13:04:15 GMT -5
The whole problem of combining general relativity with quantum physics seems to be extremely gnarly. Strings, branes, "standard" particles— all these theories harmonize with measurements already made. The trouble is, the predictions of these theories only diverge at the level of elementary particles so massive and energies so high that there's no way anybody will do the experiments needed to prove or disprove any of them any time soon, so the theorists are left wandering far off into their mathematics, predicting structures which may or may not have anything to do with reality.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Mar 29, 2006 13:07:51 GMT -5
The whole problem of combining general relativity with quantum physics seems to be extremely gnarly. Strings, branes, "standard" particles— all these theories harmonize with measurements already made. The trouble is, the predictions of these theories only diverge at the level of elementary particles so massive and energies so high that there's no way anybody will do the experiments needed to prove or disprove any of them any time soon, so the theorists are left wandering far off into their mathematics, predicting structures which may or may not have anything to do with reality. And don't forget that Human mathematics is extrimely limited to the human psychological limits. And in order to perforn these experiments, imumerous factors must be analized.
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Post by Thorius Maximus on Apr 2, 2006 12:28:24 GMT -5
Something came to my mind a few moments ago, how would Erik's behavioural protocal make him react if Kim and Ron had in the first part of StD asked each others for the prom?
In won't say muc hof a thing now, but in short I think that he would try to destroy their friendship by more agressive means.
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Post by cloudmonet on Jun 11, 2006 12:28:10 GMT -5
And the Molerat Will Be Reevaluated!
Well, now that I’ve actually seen this episode, about a year after the premieres of “Rappin Drakken” and “Team Impossible,” I’m going modify the tentative assessment I offered based on the summaries and screenshots of others. As I said then, some of the screenshots look shippy. What about the events they represent?
I’m gonna say, “sort of.” As “Dimension Twist” is the Kim Possible show’s assault on cable television, “Molerat” goes after the movies. Both episodes contain greater amounts of deconstruction than usual for the show (which I’ll admit usually has some). By deconstruction I mean a plot that questions its own premises.
So, we’re taking on movie production, movie stars, fan hysteria, and the like. The characterization is unusally broad. Kim, Ron, Senior, Junior, Monique, and Bonnie all seem to some extent like parodies of themselves, with some interesting and possibly enlightening results. Everything seems a little bit askew.
For most of the episode Kim and Ron are separated. What about when they are together?
We first see them on their way home from a mission involving a big rig eighteen wheeler with eighteen flat tires, and a concrete ice ream cone. Evidently in gratitude, the truck driver is giving them a ride home. They saved the ice cream cone? 18 flat tires? As missions go, this is almost a parody on the level of being dangled by Frugal Lucre in a net over a child’s swimming pool filled with disinterested snapping turtles. So, we’re immediately placed in a deconstruction zone.
Wait, we’re already there, from the opening scene! How exactly is Junior going to steal the Tower of London, a building with stone walls thick enough to resist siege engines, with six “mysterious black helicopters”? This could only work on a movie set.
Uh, back to Kim and Ron, the first of two possible shippy moments. Ron jiggles the truck driver’s toy hula girl and suggests saving the ice cream cone will “impress the ladies,” and Kim reacts with a face we haven’t seen since “Grudge Match.” Is she jealous, or just thinking Ron’s being intolerably stupid? The way they’re characterized in this episode, it’s impossible to tell. Only by looking farther out to other events in season 3 is it possible to conclude, yeah, she’s probably jealous.
Then as Kim’s about to thank her ride, it turns out his wasn’t supposed to be a free ride at all. Wade couldn’t find one, and Ron hired somebody on credit. Is this deconstruction, reality seeping in, or a foreshadowing of “Team Impossible”? Not sure. We’re then treated to an incredible minuet of Kim and Ron tying the hooks dangling from the helicopters to each other with grappling hook guns, Kim doing this smoothly, and Ron awkwardly, but successfully, with help from Rufus. And why aren’t the mysterous black helicopters doing anything to defend themselves? Like, separating or something? I guess it’s because they’re piloted by henchmen, with the collective intelligence of a mob or turkeys in the absence of good instructions, and the boss of this is Junior— never mind. What could they possibly do but wait for Kim to defeat them?
And here comes reality peeping through the absurdity. Helicopters are dangerous to fly, and assuming there’s no way to detach the cables, Junior’s for once right. They have to land very carefully. Kim’s hair gets messed up, and she’s concerned.
But a little later, when Junior panics and just wants to escape, he takes off in a mysterious black helicopter, apparently forgetting they’re all tied together, and the cable just breaks before the other choppers are lifted. Sure you’re gonna lift a real castle tower with these, Junior.
Which brings up shippy moment number two— the glomp. Or, at least, Kim has two hands on Ron’s shoulder, a shippy touch in stereo. Is it?
The director’s just seen Kim and Ron do an action stunt— since this is his kind of movie, he’s getting ideas. At first, like almost everybody, he just notices Kim, and he’s trying to put her into some formula— deconstruction again. How hard can this be, given that she actually is star of a comedy action show? “Ordinary girl does extraordinary things,” he muses, noting that this would fit the real Kim show’s target audience. But Ron points out quite reasonably that Kim’s far from ordinary. “How about you?” the director asks, and moves the ordinary boy next to the extraordinary girl, just as Mark and Bob must have done when first thinking of all this!
And Kim and Ron are both all enthusiastic about the proposed movie, and Heather and Quinn, though Ron’s concerned about Quinn being mopey, and that’s all they’re discussing, but meanwhile their body language is all that of a couple. At this stage in their relationship, in the wilderness between “Bad Boy” and “Gorilla Fist,” this subconscious shipping moment does stand out.
But other than iconic shots of Kim and Ron at Bueno Nacho after Heather and Quinn leave, and coming to save the day at the end, that’s about it for Kim/Ron shippiness.
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But I’m not through. There’s two other things that grabbed my attention, also pertaining to relationships between characters.
1. Junior and Senior.
Like the J.P.Bearymore Pizza Disco and Granny Crockett’s Cookie incidents, this is a Senor Senior Junior scheme. Senior interfered with the Bearymore scheme to make it more evil, and with the cookie recipe scheme to make Junior fail. This time he’s both supportive and passive. He goes along for the ride part of the time, but his presence or absence makes no difference. This really is Junior’s solo flight, and he seems more brainless and superficial than ever, which works, because this is an episode about movie people.
2. Bonnie and Monique.
Have we ever seen these two characters in the same scene before this? Amid the chaos of the Middleton girls treating Heather like it’s 1964 and she’s the Beatles or something, Kim’s friend schemes with her rival to bring Kim and Heather into Club Banana, successfully, and they both get what they want, a chance to hang out with Heather. For those who complain we never see the kinder, gentler Bonnie of “Bonding” again, here she is, seemingly friends with Monique.
Aha! Reading between the episodes, we can see why Bonnie goes harsh in “So the Drama.” Remember the movie opener, in which Kim and Monique are discussing Bonnie’s on and off relationship with Brick Flagg? Try this hypothesis on for size: after “Bonding,” Bonnie becomes more friendly with Kim, and Monique (offstage). We glimpse a bit of this in “Molerat.” This all goes sour when Monique and Brick start to like each other. Monique and Brick would get to know each other if Monque and Bonnie hang out together, right? So Bonnie’s anger at Monique would also turn toward Monique’s friend Kim, and— Of course the missing details can only be guessed at, but something like this would explain everything we see about Bonnie in “Bonding” versus Bonnie in “So the Drama”— and “Molerat” provides our only glimpse at what might be happening, and the possible importance of Monique as catalyst.
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Post by wallaceb on Jun 11, 2006 13:03:00 GMT -5
wow, i am speachless, that is really good info...
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Jun 11, 2006 14:11:41 GMT -5
Wow! Cloudmonet that was great.
I really agree with you. I think that the white chopper not being the ride thing was a foreshadow to Team Impossible, I realized that either last night or this morning.
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Post by Imperial General Someguy on Jun 11, 2006 14:59:46 GMT -5
Whoa...exactly how big of bump was this?
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Post by nabusan on Jun 11, 2006 15:44:24 GMT -5
wow, that was a lot of reading but I dutifully got through it all I love the foreshadowment theory. Quite impressive that Bob and Mark have continuity on such a small level. Wonder if Kim ever pays back that favour?
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