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Post by NinjaRabbit on Oct 23, 2007 21:11:47 GMT -5
You know a ship is a right one when it just feels right inside you. Those are my reasons for my ships. *points to signature*
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Post by frozenfire on Oct 24, 2007 4:06:41 GMT -5
You know a ship is a right one when it just feels right inside you. Those are my reasons for my ships. *points to signature* true... so true...
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Post by yvj on Oct 24, 2007 14:00:31 GMT -5
Let's break it down
Around 12 years of friendship
5+ years of facing danger on their own relying mostly on each other. Having enough faith to trust their lives in the hands of each other.
1 Year and going as BF/GF
Sometimes its hard for me to see how you can not support such a couple
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Post by frozenfire on Oct 24, 2007 20:43:26 GMT -5
yep... it's what dream relationships are made of...
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Post by mrmatt on Oct 24, 2007 20:59:22 GMT -5
Let's break it down Around 12 years of friendship 5+ years of facing danger on their own relying mostly on each other. Having enough faith to trust their lives in the hands of each other. 1 Year and going as BF/GF Sometimes its hard for me to see how you can not support such a couple Preach on preacher.
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Post by Alexlayer on Oct 25, 2007 16:04:26 GMT -5
Sometimes its hard for me to see how you can not support such a couple Easy: Way too cliche and even more predictable.
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Post by yvj on Oct 25, 2007 16:20:32 GMT -5
Sometimes its hard for me to see how you can not support such a couple Easy: Way too cliche and even more predictable. Wait what is not cliche? What pairing in the Fandom is not in some form completely cliche? (Beyond bestiality pairings) Everything's been done Even Ron/MF------ Villian/Hero....Oh I get it because they're not canonically gay that makes it all radical and new! In essence it's not Predictable yes and no......Childhood friends scenario yes......but the Kim and Ron dynamic is pretty far from the norm especially with Kim being for the lack of a better word the dominant presence in their relationship. Anyway my last post was not addressed to those who are just not "feeling" K/R it was more about those who attempt to devalue the inherent depth the relationship has. It clearly has allot more foundation than most Disney (or other cartoon) couples.
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Post by Jessica on Oct 25, 2007 16:29:56 GMT -5
Well, I feel a feeling in every romantic kiss, but yeah, K/R is different.
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Post by Alexlayer on Oct 25, 2007 16:40:47 GMT -5
Wait what is not cliche? What pairing in the Fandom is not in some form completely cliche? (Beyond bestiality pairings) Everything's been done Even Ron/MF------ Villian/Hero....Oh I get it because they're not canonically gay that makes it all radical and new! In essence it's not Done before or not, it's the fact that nothing surprise me about K/R that it makes it boring. And while Villain/Hero pairings have been done a lot, at least the idea opens the way to a lot of outcome beside the couple getting together or not. Predictable yes and no......Childhood friends scenario yes......but the Kim and Ron dynamic is pretty far from the norm especially with Kim being for the lack of a better word the dominant presence in their relationship. That's one of the few things I can like of this couple... but I'm seriously tired when fans want Ron to stand out and Kim to stay home and raise the children, and I don't think I'm talking about a minority around here, at least not that close. Anyway my last post was not addressed to those who are just not "feeling" K/R it was more about those who attempt to devalue the inherent depth the relationship has. It's clearly has allot more foundation than most Disney (or other cartoon) couples. While I admit the couple is all right and mostly well done, what you said sounded more like that EVERY Kim Possible fan SHOULD support the couple just because "yes".
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Post by yvj on Oct 25, 2007 17:01:24 GMT -5
Done before or not, it's the fact that nothing surprise me about K/R that it makes it boring. And while Villain/Hero pairings have been done a lot, at least the idea opens the way to a lot of outcome beside the couple getting together or not. Well if the author of the fic does decide for example to get MF/R together permanently then there won't be any humongous surprises in that pairing either since they're an established couple and so thus boring. That being said there are still many interesting things that can be done with K/R if you are willing to look for it. I say this knowing it would be hypercritical of me to tell you to find more in K/R when I probably won't do the same with pairings I don't like. That's one of the few things I can like of this couple... but I'm seriously tired when fans want Ron to stand out and Kim to stay home and raise the children, and I don't think I'm talking about a minority around here, at least not that close. There's some truth to this. But a lot of those people are more Ron fans than K/R fans. And if push came to shove they probably would have no problem seeing Ron with someone else. While I admit the couple is all right and mostly well done, what you said sounded more like that EVERY Kim Possible fan SHOULD support the couple just because "yes". Misunderstanding. I know some people are not into it....I can't change that....People essentially should like what they like within the limits of the law......But I do however maintain the right to be irked by people debasing the severely strong ties the relationship is built upon
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Post by mike on Oct 26, 2007 7:50:44 GMT -5
That's one of the few things I can like of this couple... but I'm seriously tired when fans want Ron to stand out and Kim to stay home and raise the children, and I don't think I'm talking about a minority around here, at least not that close. If that ever happens in canon, I doubt that I can ship K/R ever again. /* In love, both are equal in success and failure - that's my belief */
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Post by mrmatt on Oct 26, 2007 19:08:21 GMT -5
That's one of the few things I can like of this couple... but I'm seriously tired when fans want Ron to stand out and Kim to stay home and raise the children, and I don't think I'm talking about a minority around here, at least not that close. If that ever happens in canon, I doubt that I can ship K/R ever again. /* In love, both are equal in success and failure - that's my belief */ Well said, though I'm not a shipper myself I would loose a lot of respect for the show if this were to become cannon. One of the aspects that first drew me in was a strong female lead that my little sister could look up to. Your comment Alex is fasinating. I was not aware there was a following for the Ron runs the missions, Kim stays in the kitchen idea. I'll have to watchout for that, its rediculas of course.
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Post by frozenfire on Oct 26, 2007 20:40:07 GMT -5
wow, I can't imagine Kim and Ron switching roles so to speak... I mean, the show's name is Kim Possible and not Ron Stoppable... >_<
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 26, 2007 21:33:14 GMT -5
wow, I can't imagine Kim and Ron switching roles so to speak... I mean, the show's name is Kim Possible and not Ron Stoppable... >_< Yeah? Tell that to Warhok and Warmonga. Oh wait....
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Post by Alexlayer on Oct 26, 2007 21:59:46 GMT -5
If that ever happens in canon, I doubt that I can ship K/R ever again. /* In love, both are equal in success and failure - that's my belief */ Well said, though I'm not a shipper myself I would loose a lot of respect for the show if this were to become cannon. One of the aspects that first drew me in was a strong female lead that my little sister could look up to. Your comment Alex is fasinating. I was not aware there was a following for the Ron runs the missions, Kim stays in the kitchen idea. I'll have to watchout for that, its rediculas of course. Well, that's something that has kinda bugged me for some time, specially shortly after "Graduation" was aired. While I'm no where fascinated with K/R, I like it to some degree for what it is, and while I'm all in for Ron's character development, the idea of "leaving Kim behind" is unthinkable for me.
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Post by The Yetimonster on Oct 26, 2007 22:15:43 GMT -5
Yeah? Tell that to Warhok and Warmonga. Oh wait.... I'm still having some trouble figuring out why everyone thinks Ron is the only one who stopped the aliens. Kim and Drakken freed each other. Ron and Shego went to save Kim and Drakken's bacon. Rufus and Shego brought the alien ship down. Kim and Ron saved each other from major bone-breakage. Kim and Shego grounded Warhok and Warmonga. Drakken stopped their war machine. Ron killed them. Strikes me as very much a team effort. It seems like every Ron fangirl gets ADD as soon as he's blue with monkey ninja powers and forgets everyhing they just saw. Drakken's actions probably saved more lives than anything Ron did.
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 26, 2007 22:26:14 GMT -5
Yeah? Tell that to Warhok and Warmonga. Oh wait.... I'm still having some trouble figuring out why everyone thinks Ron is the only one who stopped the aliens. Kim and Drakken freed each other. Ron and Shego went to save Kim and Drakken's bacon. Rufus and Shego brought the alien ship down. Kim and Ron saved each other from major bone-breakage. Kim and Shego grounded Warhok and Warmonga. Drakken stopped their war machine. Ron killed them. Strikes me as very much a team effort. It seems like every Ron fangirl gets ADD as soon as he's blue with monkey ninja powers and forgets everyhing they just saw. Drakken's actions probably saved more lives than anything Ron did. Sure, it was a team effort to save Kim and Drakken, take the ship down, knock out the war machines, etc. What the team effort DIDN'T do was defeat Warhok and Warmonga. Ron did. And don't get the wrong idea. I was actually AGAINST Ron totally pwning Warhok/monga the way he did, going all DBZ, and such. I would've preferred the fight ending with the aliens trapped in Drakken's plants, then, I dunno, taken away to get locked up somehow. Or maybe they could've just been embarrassed by losing to a guy with flowers growing out of his neck and just left altogether. I can't say I like how the battle ended, but hey, that's how it ended.
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Post by The Yetimonster on Oct 26, 2007 22:33:46 GMT -5
Sure, it was a team effort to save Kim and Drakken, take the ship down, knock out the war machines, etc. What the team effort DIDN'T do was defeat Warhok and Warmonga. Ron did. Ron couldn't have done squat without everything else his team did happening first that's the whole point. I agree with the ending thing though. Not a big fan of violent deaths in this kind of cartoon show.
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Post by mike on Oct 27, 2007 7:10:40 GMT -5
the idea of "leaving Kim behind" is unthinkable for me. The same goes for me
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Post by frozenfire on Oct 27, 2007 8:10:26 GMT -5
yep, it's her show, so, yeah...
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