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Post by dragoonbigl on Jan 28, 2006 4:59:40 GMT -5
And yet I still don't understand why they hate Kim so much. Is it that she represents the Popular chearleader type? I didn't go to puplic highschool so i didn't see alot of the food chain stuff......whats the deal?
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Post by surforst on Jan 28, 2006 5:05:29 GMT -5
Part of it is probably because the 'Popular Cheerleader' didn't like them and they are now angry. Another part of it is they focus on a few episodes only. The real bad ones mind you like when Kim locked Ron in the closet or like how Kim doesn't fall on her knees and beg Ron to be allowed to worship him. Just the way it seems at times to me and it's a real shame. They just think Kim is too shallow to like Ron just because the dared to show an interest in other guys. Of course Ron never showed an interest in another girl. No of course not. Bah is all I say!
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Post by dragoonbigl on Jan 28, 2006 5:11:21 GMT -5
well I don't think Ron showed any real interest in another girl, the little he did I think was just to try and convince himself and others or well...I'm not sure. of something though! lol
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Post by surforst on Jan 28, 2006 5:21:15 GMT -5
well I don't think Ron showed any real interest in another girl, the little he did I think was just to try and convince himself and others or well...I'm not sure. of something though! lol He dated Zita. He dated Bonnie (sure she was using him for his money but hey she still went out with him). He asked out a lot of girls right in front of Kim too. The fact is that Ron has hurt Kim too and has dated girls too. Their human not perfect so cut Kim some slack. That's all I'm asking from my fellow writers and the that's the real reason for the series of one shots I do now featuring Kim in a more vulnerable state. What's underneath that confidence they seem to hate so much is a teenage girl who is a little unsure about herself. She doesn't think she's God and she does value Ron. That's what I intend to show with my small bit of random keyboard banging skills. |
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Post by dragoonbigl on Jan 28, 2006 5:31:42 GMT -5
point taken. And trust me I know i'm looking forward to what your keyboard banging skills bring us. I'm already excited. you've accomplished what you've set out to do so far.
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Post by Commander Argus on Feb 10, 2006 23:19:34 GMT -5
Breaking up Kim and Ron post StD is taking the perfect moment at the end of the film and spitting on it unless there is a good reason and frankly, the only time I've seen it done well is the way G-Go did it in REUNION - and that ended up with them back together seemingly forever! You can have drama and strife and maybe the two of them getting really peed off at each other to the point they think they're breaking up, but IMHO they are so far beyond any kind of puppylove. They may have only started officially dating after their Junior Prom, but their hearts were already together. Oh and UNT, before you challenge Matt as "Papa Smuff" you've got the Smuff Admiral to contend with  Besides, he's the father of smuff - often imitated, never duplicated! |
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Post by JuPMod on Feb 11, 2006 9:43:40 GMT -5
After reading all these posts, I have to say this.
As a K/R fan myself, I like the notion of them together, but I can't help but feel like I'm being targeted here. I certainly do not hate Kim, and I certainly don't fall into any categories posters here placed fanfic writers who breaks Kim and Ron apart.
With that said, yes, I understand Kim and Ron do feel deeply they are meant to be together, especially given the loving, good-feeling ending of "StD". However, I don't see anything wrong with writers who want to play outside the 'box' for change. No matter how people break Kim and Ron apart, it will always feel bad for the K/R fan, but it's necessary for certain plot developments for their stories, which they know are not going to be canon based.
I tried to make my stories feel much closer to reality than the rose-color tinted glasses of the TV show. The show obvious was meant for kids, etc., but fanfic gives freedom to create things that the show will not ever go, like bringing touches of realism to a given situation.
IMO, the fanfic community will be boring if all I read is K/R stuff. As a K/R fan, I like them, but there is too much of a good thing to me, and I like to expand my horizons (like the notion of R/Y) a bit instead of staying in one place most of the time.
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Post by zaratan on Feb 11, 2006 10:12:34 GMT -5
Ah, yes, that's how those vicious plot bunnies got to me to continue the Ron/Bon. And I'm glad I did! Though, I did base it on the second season, before Kim and Ron started to get interested in each other.
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Post by classiccowboy on Feb 11, 2006 12:01:43 GMT -5
I tend to be a bit cruel to the pair in my fics, but usually before the end of the fic I have them patched up and happily together again (IE the chapter of The Batman fusion which will be updated later today, yes I know shameless plug) but if I tend to like giving them a bit more experience dating after breakups mostly just to give them stronger handle on relationships, ya know? that mean they stay broke up? at least in my fics that isn't neccissarily the case.
but personally I think burning the old bridge and rebuilding it later is a fun and angsty plot device. Like the old saying goes: "absence makes the heart grow fonder"
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Feb 11, 2006 20:59:29 GMT -5
hmm...
well, conflict is what drives a lot of stories, and there's no better emotional conflict than breaking up and either getting back together *or* finding happiness elsewhere... it's a heck of a tried and true way of getting your readers hooked!
the only thing that bothers me about them is when it goes a bit overboard and we have one or the other contemplating suicide or cutting or some such silliness... don't get me wrong, these are valid personal crises in a young person's life, but I just can't see Kim or Ron rushing to end one's life because they've been dumped by the other. It's just not in their character as we see it on the show.
oh, look... sugar-free chocolate...
hmm...
*wanders off*
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Post by surforst on Feb 11, 2006 22:09:00 GMT -5
As a K/R fan myself, I like the notion of them together, but I can't help but feel like I'm being targeted here. I certainly do not hate Kim, and I certainly don't fall into any categories posters here placed fanfic writers who breaks Kim and Ron apart. Um...sorry I know I'm not talking about your stories because I don't know what they are. If I did know I'd probably say they were great and various other things. Well best of luck in your stories anyway. Or having them fight on opposite sides of the a war not knowing they are fighting each other. One still being in love and the other one apparently moved on. The potential angs involved! |
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Post by JuPMod on Feb 12, 2006 9:29:56 GMT -5
As a K/R fan myself, I like the notion of them together, but I can't help but feel like I'm being targeted here. I certainly do not hate Kim, and I certainly don't fall into any categories posters here placed fanfic writers who breaks Kim and Ron apart. Um...sorry I know I'm not talking about your stories because I don't know what they are. If I did know I'd probably say they were great and various other things. Well best of luck in your stories anyway. Okay... My KP: The University Years series of stories I've posted on FF.net since May of last year. This series have K/R in them. I've lately created a series that have Ron and Kim broke apart and years later Ron gets together with Yori. This series is what I feel I'm being targeted for. I know posters in this thread were speaking in general, but my feelings are telling me that some are crossing the line in thinking that all writers, who break Kim and Ron apart, are clueless to the characters and/or haven't watched the entire KP TV series. I'm sorry to say this, but I do know the characters and I have watched the entire series (sans "And the Naked Mole Rat is CGI"). It's just I like to expand my horizons in my writing other than K/R. As I said before, if all I see is K/R fanfic that is totally like the show, I will get bored. I like variety than reading the 'same old, same old'. It's good for writers to broaden their horizons and use their imaginations on the possibilities they can do with the characters. |
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Post by drakkenfan on Feb 13, 2006 0:13:28 GMT -5
Now why does everyone write stories where Ron gets dumped by Kim? Simply because author who don't bother to watch anything but one episode base Kim character off that. They seem to have it in their heads that Kim is mean and vindictive and does everything she can to hurt Ron. It's annoying but hey what are you going to do. I've seen every episode of Kim Possible, but she has still dumped Ron in 2 of my fanfics. But the only reason why I wrote those break-ups is because it was necessary in order for her to be with Drakken, since her being in a relationship with Ron is now canon. It's difficult to write a break up without making either Kim or Ron seem like a jerk. I try to go the angle of, they were better off as friends. |
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Post by dragonfang33 on Feb 13, 2006 21:00:23 GMT -5
Ron dumped fics, simply make Kim and Ron seem more human, in a way they make you relize that even in a perfect romance things can go drastically wrong, and that perfect romance can rot from the inside. Every Fanfic I write, I try to remember that even though the shows say they're perfect, they're still human, still capable of falling in love with someone other then what a show says, still capable of making mistakes, and learning from them. My way of writing Fanfics has always been to add a dose of reality to the world of the show. In other words I'm in favor of Ron gets dumped fanfics.
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Besides, he's the father of smuff - often imitated, never duplicated!
