How to complaint?

[PossibleKim]

Hi Guys

Daniel just bought the Kim Possible So the Drama for me. Yes I know, it is sweet since he hates it and I like it but there is a flaw in the movie

The extended version does not include the fight in the underwater cave and they cut the scene about Kim say the perfect storm. It also does not include the Ron help Kim in figthing Shego in the Bermuda Triangle

Does I know where to complaint these so that I can replace with the Real exteneded version?>

Please dan Thank you

Yami Dymlos and Daniel Ho

[dracko19]

I think there are 2 versions of STD out right now. The version you need to get is the SPECIAL EDITION/EXTENDED VERSION which includes the scenes you talked about. I'd try and exchange it from where you got it.

Make sure the box/DVD cover looks like this:



If your box DOES look like that, its possible you have a "Fake/Pirated" copy that was made illegally. This is not uncommon outside the US. I'm sure if you complain to the place where you got it, they will attempt to make it right either way.

Good luck!

[megatron]

yamidymlos said:

Hi Guys

Daniel just bought the Kim Possible So the Drama for me. Yes I know, it is sweet since he hates it and I like it but there is a flaw in the movie
The extended version does not include the fight in the underwater cave and they cut the scene about Kim say the perfect storm. It also does not include the Ron help Kim in figthing Shego in the Bermuda Triangle
Does I know where to complaint these so that I can replace with the Real exteneded version?>
Please dan Thank you

Yami Dymlos and Daniel Ho

Funny I have it and haven't seen those scenes in it at all

[PossibleKim]

Yes that is the box. It is no illegal. The reason is because I bought it from Borders. Something like Wal-mart

[megatron]

Have a look at the scene selection on the left after your open the dvd cover does it say Kim Undercover(Extended Version)? cause mine does and it's just the Ron playing poker/Kim vs Shego fight

[Cid]

The uk and usa Dvd are not the same but they both say The extended version

/Cid

[megatron]

But mine is Region 4 which is Australian made

[Cid]

That's odd then i have both usa and uk dvd's i know wen they played std in the uk they did cut alot out off it but i think they add the bit's they have cut out off it on to the dvd

/Cid

[megatron]

If they are on the dvd there must be some secret code or something you need to enter in order to see the extended scene

[Cid]

I dont think so i looked all about on uk dvd there nuffing secret on it like on Kim Possible: The Villain Files The usa one has Showdown at the Crooked D and the uk one dus not have it

/Cid

[PossibleKim]

I do not think so. Daniel once wrote something about animation and TAS. He got so upset with the americans so he wrote this article and there was a huge debate on it. Eventually he won

This has seriously come to my attention. That is why I would like to ask for your opinion. Why downloading for some animation is illegal. Why would the americans or the others want to licencse the animation?

The best example is Naruto. Naruto is a very very intresting animation. Absolute fun for almost everyone. Before Naruto was licensed, we could download it and watch it for our own affair. (Not to mention it is free). However since it was licensed we HAD to buy the episode and believe me it is not cheap (NZ$40 which is about RM 120 for 3 episodes. Imagining collecting series like slamdunk,sailormoon and naruto which had more than few hundred episodes)

Another case is Hack.Sign Legend of the Twilight Bracelet and Final Fnatasy Unlimited. (However I am going to use Hack. Sign as a main example). Hack. Sign is a good series and that is no doubt. Satam introduced it to me when I was in Malaysia and I love it. Soon the animation came out. Imagine there are 4 DVD and they cost more than NZ$240!!!! What do they licensed people think we are, a bunch of people who got the money falling down from the sky.

The worst case scenario is even if we buy the episode,the american or the people who licensed it will cut cut cut cut cut cut and remake remake remake remake. Take Yu-Gi-Oh and Vandread for example. Yu-gi-Oh undoubtedly had a serious makeover by the 4Kids. They had the first 25 episode that was never avialable on the market (Thanks to Satam for this information). Apart from that, the current episode sucks like the stinking fish that left in the car for a month. They remake a lot. (How Marik kill his father and how Odion get hurt in the first place)

After the released of the cut version of the animation, the American again devise another evil scheme. They will released the uncut version which again caused the anime collector to throw another few hundreds dollars down the drain. In case you do not see wastetage here, let me point it out. what are we going to do with the cut version if the uncut version is out. Gather dust? Throw the dsic away?

Another bad thing about these americans is when the animation is good. They will produce mechandise. This time, they found a way for the money to flow in like water. They will introduce trading card games. Pokemon was the first TCG based on animation and since they find it so rewarding, they produce TCG for almost any animation. You name it, Naruto, Megaman Battle Neewtowrk even Sponge Bob squarepants which I have no idea why since Spongebob is a funny cartoon not fighting cartton. What is th point make a war game in such a hilarious cartoon. Does not this insult the fan?

My question is how greedy can these people get? Why do we have to spend so much amount of money in order to get these episode? I am an animation fan but spending so much money on these episode makes me think it is a nuisance. Perhaps they should rethink about prices because hey, japanese animation one day will come to an end

(The best example that japanese animation will come to an end is Disney. Disney was one of the best cartoon manufactor in the world oin the olden days. Now, they had to combine with other companies in order to survive. Eg, Pixar and Squaresoft. ).

AS you can see, I think they are trying to make money from us. He despise Disney but you got the idea. He also say something aboput mechandise

Allow me to explain. Once an anime is fully licensed, downloading will be illegal. This also means that they can hunt you down and sue you for stealing (However it rarely happend unless you sell those stuff). Since American had a very poor translator and a very LAZY (Yes I mean it). The episode will come out so slowly. Imagining buying episode 10 while in Japan the Tv is showing 120!!! Real horror doesn't it

Mechandise are sweet. No doubt about that. However, the americans are farming us for this. Let me ask. Would you buy a piece of paper for US$23,000? That sounds nuts right? In Yu-Gi-Oh, Cyber-stein who can perform one turn kill was sold for that amount. A card for US$23,000. You are not saying that that they are not farming us?

American is not only farming us but also destroying the japanese animation reputation. Let us recall a very good animation. Gensomaden Saiyuki. Yup, the 4 gays travelling on a car to stop the revival of the Bull King. You might wonder why it is never in english? Let me let you out a little secrect. Yes they did do it in english. However the named was changed to Paradise Riders (however in manga it is still called Gensomaden Saiyuki). Never heard of Paradise Riders? No doubt because the remake is so poor that the creator decieded to forbid it in going out to the market.

Yu-gi-oh also face the same story but it is a bit lucky. The 4Kids cut a lot but in the middle part, they did some explanation (althought very poorly). When they decieded to cut the 25 first episode. They remake a lot. Imagine cramping 5 books of manga into a single episode. They cut out the details how yugi got the millenium puzzle from his grandfateher and how is grandfather got it, how yugi knows about him otherslef. How Kaiba defeated the Yugi's grandfather and Death T. If you watch tha anime without reading the manga. It will not make any sense at all for the animation. One example is according to Isisizu Isthar, only the person releated to worshiping the Egyptioan Gods can control the Millenium items. However during the middle part of the story (only in english version) Marik's father can used the Millenium Rod to weaken Odion (In japanese, Malik's father whip him almost into dead). This shows how poorly and confusing the american did the job.
(Yami Malik and Malik can used the Millenum Rod althought they did not worship god but they can never control the Millenium Rod's power properly because the rod responed only to Seto Kaiba. The Rod even help Seto Kaiba to defeat Isisizu Ishatr despite of Yami Malik's command)

Ah My Goddess is also another victim. The episode of the Devil King in Urd 's body was cut out in the American version. Thanks to Comic House in Malaysia, they did not. Thus this also prove that americans did a poor job in modifying and translate the book. (The story convers a major part of Ah! My Goddess like how Belldandy seal her powers in her earing, how does Keichii posses by the Dark King and how does Belldandy goes against the Almigthy to save Keiichi)

Ever wonder why the American decided to print the book reading from right to the left (japanese style), In the pervious, the americans is too lazy so what they did was they flip the entire bbok. As a result, some writing on the backgrond like May becomes Yam and this sometimes confuses the reader. They have incredibly enormus compliant for this error and so they decieded to stick to the format as the Japanese.

[cloudmonet]

It sounds the Australian So the Drama DVD is roughly like the US broadcast version. The differences between the American broadcast and DVD versions are the addition of

1) an underwater scene with Kim and Ron scuba diving to approach the Bermuda Triangle, which is thoroughly (and improbably) guarded by booby traps in giant clamshells.

2) at the Bermuda Triangle, the fight between Kim and Shego is greatly lengthened, and the end changed in that Ron knocks Shego down the last stairs by slamming her with a serving cart.

3) at the end of the movie, the second verse of "Could it Be" plays when Kim and Ron kiss, instead of skipping to the bridge "Today is the start of the rest of our lives," and the credits are much longer and more complete.

These additions are integrated with the movie, not separate scenes.

There a a couple of minor separate scenes which were not added to the movie but viewable separately:

1) Kim thinks Ron has bought a car and acts happy about it.

2) Kim discusses the morality of beating Bonnie up, deciding against it.

And there's "Gorilla Fist" in gorgeous widescreen.

That's the American DVD. If yours is different it's Disney's fault.

[Aers (That Writer Chick)]

I think the scenes are actually NOT technically in the movie but added scenes you can access through the main menu - if you just run the movie as is you won't see them.

[PossibleKim]

No it is not avaialablel throught the main menu. The only scene availabel throught the main menu is

-10 time better
-High school evil

[megatron]

cloudmonet said:

It sounds the Australian So the Drama DVD is roughly like the US broadcast version. The differences between the American broadcast and DVD versions are the addition of

1) an underwater scene with Kim and Ron scuba diving to approach the Bermuda Triangle, which is thoroughly (and improbably) guarded by booby traps in giant clamshells.

2) at the Bermuda Triangle, the fight between Kim and Shego is greatly lengthened, and the end changed in that Ron knocks Shego down the last stairs by slamming her with a serving cart.

3) at the end of the movie, the second verse of "Could it Be" plays when Kim and Ron kiss, instead of skipping to the bridge "Today is the start of the rest of our lives," and the credits are much longer and more complete.

These additions are integrated with the movie, not separate scenes.

1) Kim thinks Ron has bought a car and acts happy about it.

That's just it I've watched those parts and seperate scenes and they aren't there

[Ot@ru]

dracko19 said:

I think there are 2 versions of STD out right now. The version you need to get is the SPECIAL EDITION/EXTENDED VERSION which includes the scenes you talked about. I'd try and exchange it from where you got it.

Make sure the box/DVD cover looks like this:

We Malaysian Kim Possible fans still waiting for StD DVD...darn it...how long I must wait ?