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Post by binski on Jan 28, 2008 7:50:13 GMT -5
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Post by Darth_Comrade on Jan 28, 2008 8:31:27 GMT -5
At least the letter speaks for itself. The guy seemed to have no comment, LOL!
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Post by Tylazene on Jan 28, 2008 10:40:13 GMT -5
He did say "give it up" but it gave KP more media attention. Thats one of the goals. Maybe some readers will checkout KP just out of curiousity.
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Post by morefood2001 on Jan 28, 2008 11:23:57 GMT -5
We are getting media attention. I love how a few of them are really tired of us Keep the pressure pouring out ;D
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Post by ArtFan88 on Jan 28, 2008 11:34:26 GMT -5
I notice the dude didn't really have anything to say. What exactly does he hope to show by posting just the letter with the title of "Give it up"? He's not exactly helping his point, only bringing more people to hear about the FFF, which is awesome. It's like he's just doing advertising for us. ;D
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Post by jamesburningstorm on Jan 28, 2008 11:39:08 GMT -5
yep bring on more attention
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Post by j1mbafr0sty on Jan 28, 2008 12:54:54 GMT -5
YES! this is good. Also what i'm hoping for is for us to be the underdog so more people will do some research and watch the show and start to fight!
I haven't read it yet (i will soon) but its good to see that our efforts are not all for nothing.
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Post by Luke Danger on Jan 28, 2008 18:50:47 GMT -5
Man, people really are stupid these days. No offense meant, but he forgot to back his point up, one of the BIG things that blow your face off.
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Jan 28, 2008 19:08:46 GMT -5
The title may say give it up, but there was no bashing or attempts to make us look bad. This is great, the way he presented he is basically saying to whoever reads it is "Make up your own mind" and that is a big step up from being bashed like in the past. I also cant think of a better letter than the one he chose, nice one Julius. I believe this is just the start of a bright media exposure future for our cause.
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Post by ArtFan88 on Jan 28, 2008 20:10:43 GMT -5
Personally though, I wish Julius would stop mentioning ADJL with KP in the same letter.
He came here for KP, long before anyone even thought of ADJL. I think the KP media campaign needs to be seperate from any ADJL one. Keep it simple. Both in one letter is only going to complicate things.
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Jan 28, 2008 20:23:32 GMT -5
Personally though, I wish Julius would stop mentioning ADJL with KP in the same letter. He came here for KP, long before anyone even thought of ADJL. I think the KP media campaign needs to be seperate from any ADJL one. Keep it simple. Both in one letter is only going to complicate things. I feel that putting the two together might give Disney the impression that we arent fighting for a show we believe in but that we are merely fighting Disney because we want something to do. First it was just KP, now its KP and ADJL, Disney might feel that this shows weakness in that we are just looking for fights and not results.
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Post by ArtFan88 on Jan 28, 2008 20:26:37 GMT -5
Personally though, I wish Julius would stop mentioning ADJL with KP in the same letter. He came here for KP, long before anyone even thought of ADJL. I think the KP media campaign needs to be seperate from any ADJL one. Keep it simple. Both in one letter is only going to complicate things. I feel that putting the two together might give Disney the impression that we arent fighting for a show we believe in but that we are merely fighting Disney because we want something to do. First it was just KP, now its KP and ADJL, Disney might feel that this shows weakness in that we are just looking for fights and not results. Another great point, which I fully agree with. I have always said since day one of the; what I see to be totaly pointless; alliance, that all we're doing is weakening ourselves by dividing our strength to help the weaker fight. And that's what ADJL is, no offense to the fans. It's the weaker fight and it's holding us back in the FFF because our main leaders have to go waste prescious time in getting them up to speed. And really, even after all we've given them they don't do enough. I honestly think they just wanted to do this because they want to try to leach off our success to save Jake, and that's not right. I have not once seen them pull their wait enough to justify this partnership, and that only makes it weaker. Then the point you justmade about what it shows Disney; they we're not focused on something we really believe in; just out for a fight. Actually, you said it best, so I'll just leave it to your quote. I'll keep saying it like I always have: This alliance is -not- helpful. It needs to go.
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Jan 28, 2008 20:53:16 GMT -5
It's not an alliance if its one sided which is what I feel it is. Also, no offence to ADJL fans, but we need to focus on KP instead of dividing our resources between the two fights. We have worked long and hard to get where we are in our fight for KP and we are really only now getting attention. To divided our time between the two wont just slow us down, but I fear it might actually undo most of our progress.
On a side note, Julius writes the best letters and I'm proud to have his letters speak of me and our fight.
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Post by ArtFan88 on Jan 28, 2008 21:07:51 GMT -5
It's not an alliance if its one sided which is what I feel it is. Also, no offence to ADJL fans, but we need to focus on KP instead of dividing our resources between the two fights. We have worked long and hard to get where we are in our fight for KP and we are really only now getting attention. To divided our time between the two wont just slow us down, but I fear it might actually undo most of our progress. Thank You! Finally someone who sees what I see! Dude, exactly. I've been saying that in private and in public since day 1! Those are my exact thoughts. And like I said, it is one sided because we're the only side that does any work. Thus, making the entire idea pointless. Sometimes I am. I'll admit that in the beginning, if it wasn't for his speeches I wouldn't be fighting. However, if something is on my mind that I need to say, I say it myself. A few people found that one out already. XD
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Post by tidus on Jan 28, 2008 22:21:54 GMT -5
And like I said before, KP has momentum, momentum is good when you can keep it going, right now it's been slowed down a bit, however we have gotten more media exposure , meanwhile ADJL hasn't had that momentum, ADJL should be dealt with after KP is renewed, with the current pressure KP should be renewed at the very latest hopefully by the end of the year or early next year. If we amount more pressure at the minimum maybe in the next 3 to 4 months.
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Post by morefood2001 on Jan 28, 2008 23:52:14 GMT -5
I am not 100% for ADJL. The series never sparked me and I admit that over and over. However I am in this as a follower and as support to the leaders Its up to them what we do
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Post by ArtFan88 on Jan 28, 2008 23:53:36 GMT -5
I am not 100% for ADJL. The series never sparked me and I admit that over and over. However I am in this as a follower and as support to the leaders Its up to them what we do Yeah, but sometimes you gotta stand up and tell the leaders that what they think is best, really might not be. Just blindly going along with anything they say, or what one person says or what they want, that isn't always the best thing to do. In fact i don't think it's ever the best thing to do. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and tell them "Hey, I think we need this", or, "I don't like this." Now you're right, it's gonna be up to them no matter what, but a good leader listens to everyone, and I think it's important to hear everyone out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2008 0:16:50 GMT -5
I completely agree with you on all points, ArtFan. The alliance just isn't working as promised and I think it's time to let the fandoms go separate ways. If the fight for ADJL doesn't have the support it needs to stand on its own, how can we expect their assistance, if there even is any, to help us in the long run? Mentioning the two series together only weakens our own efforts by no longer putting an emphasis on what we really care about, KP's continuation.
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Post by Tylazene on Jan 29, 2008 0:26:46 GMT -5
I got flamed for it but I stated on MKP that ANY other DC show is competition for KP. Sorry, but there is not room for ALL of them. What if ADJL got renewed but not KP? I would be hoppin' mad!
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Post by ArtFan88 on Jan 29, 2008 0:31:36 GMT -5
I completely agree with you on all points, ArtFan. The alliance just isn't working as promised and I think it's time to let the fandoms go separate ways. If the fight for ADJL doesn't have the support it needs to stand on its own, how can we expect their assistance, if there even is any, to help us in the long run? Mentioning the two series together only weakens our own efforts by no longer putting an emphasis on what we really care about, KP's continuation. Dude, thank you for agreeing. I didn't think there were others who would share my views. I just say what I feel to be right and what is best for the FFF. I got flamed for it but I stated on MKP that ANY other DC show is competition for KP. Sorry, but there is not room for ALL of them. What if ADJL got renewed but not KP? I would be hoppin' mad! Hey,never be afraid to speak your mind, flames or not. That's what you feel about KP, be proud of it, you know? Hey, say what you feel is right. Fight for whatever you want; what you feel is right. It should always be up to the fans for what happens, not anyone else.
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