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Post by Dinogaby on Feb 17, 2008 13:19:01 GMT -5
I wonder what Levelord thinks after seeing all this debating. XD
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Feb 17, 2008 13:19:08 GMT -5
So you think people were all wearing the 1950's clothing, and then some fashion company said "Hey, wear this totally different thing!", and then everyone switched? No. Fashion is dictated by the BUYERS. Take a market research, entry, and distribution course, like the one I took last semester. I'm not even continuing this debate with you, you've said so many stupid things in that post it's not worth it. I'll wait for L7 to respond to my original post. Good day. I was going to stop but since you want to fling insults. I have kept what I really think about people like you and your tastes to myself because I believe it would of interferred with a fair debate but since you cant seem to I wont any longer. I find your 'kind' disgusting, lacking morals and I think you are a coward. You hide behind dont look if it offends you are its open to interpretation when all you are doing supplying perverse images. You are nothing more than immature perverse little man that tries to justify your perversions by calling it art. Wait for L7 to respond, I pray that God gives her the patience to deal with someone that obviously has no intention to listening to anyone. Good day.
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Post by LS on Feb 17, 2008 13:21:44 GMT -5
How exactly is it a blatant lie? The interpretation of it, like any piece of artwork, is up to the viewer. What you have inferred is one of many possible interpretations. Indeed, considering the offense you seem to be taking from it, it's clear that you have taken an adult interpretation of it. There are far more innocent interpretations. This coming from someone who has moved from debating the issue of artwork to insulting someone's capability to develop a coherent argument? Virtually anything. There are no set interpretations to the picture. What you infer from it can be very different to what someone else infers from it. Innocent? That comment just shows how naive you are if you believe that. Anything implied? Do you seriously believe that? I dont have a dirty mind but I'm not ignorant to what was implied either. Hiding behind its the viewers interpretation when there clearly isnt anything else that could mean is shameful. Interpretations of any piece of artwork is up to the viewer. The artist may have had a reason behind it, but at the end of the day, the viewer chooses what to make of it. I assume you are referring to your unwillingness to listen to anything we're saying? Do I detect a large amount of hypocrisy?
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Feb 17, 2008 13:25:34 GMT -5
I wonder what Levelord thinks after seeing all this debating. XD He was online momentarily a while ago, but didn't make any posts.
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Post by NewSkool101 on Feb 17, 2008 13:27:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not even gonna bother anymore.
Uh...mods? You might wanna go ahead and close this thing.
Like, right now.
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Feb 17, 2008 13:27:23 GMT -5
Innocent? That comment just shows how naive you are if you believe that. Anything implied? Do you seriously believe that? I dont have a dirty mind but I'm not ignorant to what was implied either. Hiding behind its the viewers interpretation when there clearly isnt anything else that could mean is shameful. Interpretations of any piece of artwork is up to the viewer. The artist may have had a reason behind it, but at the end of the day, the viewer chooses what to make of it. I assume you are referring to your unwillingness to listen to anything we're saying? Do I detect a large amount of hypocrisy? So I take he is the leader and you're the follower. Open to interpretation? A pic of a flower is a pic of a flower. His pics are what they are. You seem to conrtibuting less than TP but you seem quite eager to mock me. Go ahead. You obviously have nothing intellectually to offer which leads to my previous statement, you obviously follow him around singing his praises. Sad that you dont have a mind of your own.
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Post by Tsaalyo Phoenix on Feb 17, 2008 13:28:55 GMT -5
Wow. Sometimes the best course of action in a debate is to just let the opposition explode. Lmao, Chi's clapping in my avatar is most appropriate. I said it, and now it has been proven: I am happy to accept all people's art and opinons, and you clearly are not.
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Feb 17, 2008 13:33:20 GMT -5
Wow. Sometimes the best course of action in a debate is to just let the opposition explode. Lmao, Chi's clapping in my avatar is most appropriate. I said it, and now it has been proven: I am happy to accept all people's art and opinons, and you clearly are not. Yeah, you're right, its a great strategy. Ignore everyone else who is trying to have a civil arguement and bore them with the same old, flawed arguement each time till they get tired with arguing with immature children. Congrats, it worked.
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Post by idontfinishthings on Feb 17, 2008 13:43:46 GMT -5
This thread should be closed because it's pretty much turned into a mud slinging contest.
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Post by Tsaalyo Phoenix on Feb 17, 2008 13:47:05 GMT -5
Don't close it yet. I'm very interested in what L7 has to say.
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Post by idontfinishthings on Feb 17, 2008 13:51:38 GMT -5
Don't close it yet. I'm very interested in what L7 has to say. I already PM'd dracko with a lock request. Any mature member would cease arguing anyway, because one of the signs of maturity is knowing when to walk away.
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Post by ArtFan88 on Feb 17, 2008 14:11:11 GMT -5
At the very least, maybe we should all wait to see if Levelord himself has anything to say. This all stems from his art and what happened to him, yet he isn't even here to have his say in the matter.
Maybe, lock the thread, and if Levelord decides he wants to speak for himself, Dracko can just let him post than lock it again.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 17, 2008 14:17:01 GMT -5
I saw Levelord online here on RS.net earlier today (like this morning) but I didn't see him post.
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Post by CJS: The Last Fender Bender on Feb 17, 2008 14:17:07 GMT -5
At the very least, maybe we should all wait to see if Levelord himself has anything to say. This all stems from his art and what happened to him, yet he isn't even here to have his say in the matter. Maybe, lock the thread, and if Levelord decides he wants to speak for himself, Dracko can just let him post than lock it again. Agreed. I too would like his opinion about all this, preferably a public statement.
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Fusion Fox
Pink Sloth
READ THIS POST IN A MUMBLING BRITISH ACCENT
Not a bad problem to have if you ask me.
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Post by Fusion Fox on Feb 17, 2008 14:21:47 GMT -5
It's a shame people can't keep the personal bashing to themselves, when it was just a debate of opinions this thread was certainly a good read. Guess I'm just disappointed we can't have a discussion on here without it turning into 'you're a terrible person and this is why'.
I had points to add, but I guess there's not much point now.
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Post by danman007 on Feb 17, 2008 14:31:58 GMT -5
It's a shame people can't keep the personal bashing to themselves, when it was just a debate of opinions this thread was certainly a good read. Guess I'm just disappointed we can't have a discussion on here without it turning into 'you're a terrible person and this is why'. I had points to add, but I guess there's not much point now. Agreed, it would be nice to have a heated debate without the personal attacks on a person's integrity and character. Further more I would also like to hear what Levelord has to say on the subject matters being discuss here.
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Post by The Legend that is KPCrusader on Feb 17, 2008 14:49:31 GMT -5
I would like to apologise to Longsworder and Tsyaalo Phoenix for my comments before. I believe that in a debate your personal feelings and opinions should be left at the door so that the facts can be argued and discussed fairly. I did that in my earlier post but lost patience towards the end. I apologise to them and to anyone else who has read what a posted and was offended. I hoped to of had a civil discussion but in the end it turned into something ugly. I will however not apologise for my opinions on the subject as truely believe what I said. It is sad, as many of you have mentioned, that an interesting topic turned into nothing more than slandering the other party's views and opinion. Once again I'm truely sorry for losing my professionalism and cool towards the end.
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Post by dracko19 on Feb 17, 2008 16:19:44 GMT -5
I've received complaints about this thread. I am locking this thread pending Staff review. If I think everything is fine in here, I will unlock the thread without comment. If I find issues, I will keep it locked and we will be dealing with the issues.
Thank you.
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Post by dracko19 on Feb 17, 2008 19:56:59 GMT -5
You may have noticed this thread is still locked. That is because we have some issues in this thread I have to deal with. Stay tuned.
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Post by Captain Serge Stiles on Feb 18, 2008 8:57:40 GMT -5
I know it was requested for this thread to lock, but that's because of the way it was. It's better to handle this situation from the final comments, and most importantly the final - especially if it's an apology. An apology should be acknowledged with a response, and not be overlooked. This of course I'm hoping that people will accept the apology, but we won't know unless the thread is open, hm?
If it blows up again, off it goes being locked up. Problems can be solved in the same thread in which is blows up, believe it or not. Not always in need of playing 'messenger' back and forth around for all of us.
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