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Post by zoza on Jun 21, 2005 14:11:27 GMT -5
well... *insert creaking noise of old wooden rocking chair* you HAVE to be friends with anyone before getting romantically involved - because when all the lust is over with and you end up with the same person for hours and days and weeks and months you need more than just the lust to keep you going. it's all very nice and cute to be rolling around with someone, but is he/she going to be there when you get sick and are busy throwing up in the bathroom? Or if you get cancer? Or if you lose a family member and be there to comfort you? if you're friends first, it makes everything else work a whole lot better than just being in lust... and makes it last! old broad out... I think are right Aers, but I am not looking for that type of love yet!
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Jun 21, 2005 15:01:20 GMT -5
I think are right Aers, but I am not looking for that type of love yet! hey, nothing wrong with that either! I should point out that I remained single until 29 and only got married at 36! just listen to an old woman and be careful out there, eh?
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Post by darth vader 9000 on Jun 21, 2005 15:05:17 GMT -5
Hey when you turned 30 did you still have a presnality HA HA
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Jun 21, 2005 15:16:24 GMT -5
Hey when you turned 30 did you still have a presnality HA HA don't know... spell it properly and I might have an idea of what you're talking about.
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Post by darth vader 9000 on Jun 21, 2005 15:24:42 GMT -5
I mean where you still you or did you chage
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Post by molonuk on Jun 21, 2005 15:32:26 GMT -5
I'm not looking for love, I'll let it find me. Love should not be sought, it is just something that occurs, you can't help it, you can't fight it.
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Jun 21, 2005 15:37:31 GMT -5
I'm not looking for love, I'll let it find me. Love should not be sought, it is just something that occurs, you can't help it, you can't fight it. exactly - I wasn't looking for my man, but we still ended up together. And if you remain single, that's fine as well - there's no law that says you can't be happy and have a good life either way! as for the other question - trust me, puppy - you'll be the same person you are as long as you remain true to yourself. pulling it back to the Kim/Ron for a second - don't forget that these happy endings have been going on LONG before Disney got ahold of them... and if they weren't true or possible, then they would have been debunked and forgotten by society a long, long time ago.
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Post by AgHorizonFilm on Jun 21, 2005 15:55:05 GMT -5
Ah the mysterious power of love.
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Post by zoza on Jun 21, 2005 16:19:31 GMT -5
I'm not looking for love, I'll let it find me. Love should not be sought, it is just something that occurs, you can't help it, you can't fight it. Yes, it's just a feeling for someone that you have that you don't even know where it comes from. You can't love someone deliberately and you can't help who you like. That is why there is no 'food chain' in who I like or don't like. IMO if you can explain it as a list of reasons or qualitites of the person you like than it isn't romantic. To paraphrase the Led Zeppelin song 'I don't know why I like him but I like him a lot' To me that is romance.
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Post by YBIMH on Jun 21, 2005 16:48:14 GMT -5
Yes, it's just a feeling for someone that you have that you don't even know where it comes from. You can't love someone deliberately and you can't help who you like. That is why there is no 'food chain' in who I like or don't like. IMO if you can explain it as a list of reasons or qualitites of the person you like than it isn't romantic. To paraphrase the Led Zeppelin song 'I don't know why I like him but I like him a lot' To me that is romance. Didn't there when someone's falling in love then thinking about everything that the...*caugh* lover does was right,was making by his great quality.isn't it? Still,the presupposition was that she/he is really felling in crazy love.
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Post by zoza on Jun 21, 2005 16:55:12 GMT -5
I don't really understand what you mean, sorry.
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Post by AgHorizonFilm on Jun 21, 2005 17:35:54 GMT -5
To add to the quotes of love I am going to quote the famous Oracle from Matrix.
"Being in the One is like being in love. You can't explain you just feal it, bones to balls."
No pun intended on last part.
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Post by CJ on Jun 21, 2005 18:08:41 GMT -5
It's possible. That happy ending is pretty unusual though. Funny thing about me, (there is going to be a point here) is that almost every relationship I've been in has been some form of stereotype. Two of them fit the bill for the "friendship becomes something more" thing. One turned out well, the other didn't. Of course there's a lot more story behind that, but the point is that it CAN happen. The question comes in the form of how will it turn out? We don't know how things went for Kim and Ron after the fact, but based on their life story so far, it probably turned out fine. As for love in itself, well, I don't think anyone can really explain that with any sort of truth.
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Post by AgHorizonFilm on Jun 21, 2005 19:27:29 GMT -5
Since we are telling our sad stories I'll tell mine. Two girls I have known for at least 6 years. One I had a relationship that grew, but unforunately right at this point she moved away. Tried to keep it goiing, but we both realized that we were too different. Second one turned into a fling, but we still re pretty close friends, and generally don't mention the one incident. So there's my sad tale.
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Post by Forlong on Jun 21, 2005 23:05:01 GMT -5
Here are some of my experiences:
1: Michelle (man, how did she spell it?). My best friend since we were 8. She was also my brother Josh's (one year younger than me) friend. She was headstrong and bossy (probably why I like Kim so much). She lived with her dad and step-mom. I thought about going to another level with her, but we were just kids. I didn't put her in a "Best Friend: Never Date" cadegory (spelling?), but never actually dated her. Now she went to move in with her mom across town when she turned 13, 'cause her mom would let her get away with more. We grow apart...until I turned 18. That was when I found out that she had a duaghter! Now I wasn't shocked because I see premarital sex as wrong. I was shocked because she didn't tell me! I wanted to rekindle the friendship. I told Josh, but he asked me why. Stupidest thing anyone has ever asked me! I let Michelle know that, although my morals convicted her, I still wanted to be her friend (parphrasing). Josh, however didn't care. Ironically, Josh is the one she would have rather spent her time. *sigh* It hurt to let go, but I did. I just hope that she does well.
2: Jami. I met her at a Church meating. I never saw her before (and I know a LOT of people at my church), so I talked to her. She was freindly to me and liked my jokes (almost misspelled that). I thought of asking her out but said to myself, "Forlong, (that's who I am subconously) just stay her friend and see where it goees from there." It turned out that she had a boyfriend already. I didn't care...much. I stayed her friend. Later, she told me that they broke up. I still didn't ask her out. I did ask her out eventually, but she turned me down (without "turning me down"). I haven't seen her in a long time, but I hope she's doing well.
3: Karry. I young lady I met in one of my classes. I did ask her out, but she told me that she already had a boyfriend (most...ebarasing...momment...EVER).
4: Chrissy. I met her at my Church. I knew her mom too. In fact, Chrissy's mom called me my favorite nick-name, Nate the Great. I know it reveals my true name. Who cares? Anyway, I did like Chrissy "that way" and asked her out once (we didn't go out, though). Recently, I saw Chrissy at my Church's annual picnic. I decided to talk to her. I foudn out that and I both were going into teaching as a profession. I later saw her working at Rykse's, the resturant where I work (I highly recomend going there if you ever find yourself in Kalamazoo, Michigan). I decided to ask her if she'd like to hang out. She said yes. [does a back flip...which I can't do] Anyway, we don't know exactly when we'll be doing whatever it is we'll be doing, 'cause she's working a lot and I have voloteer work at my Church's Vacation Bible School.
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Post by CJ on Jun 21, 2005 23:25:32 GMT -5
Heh, I didn't realize we were posting all of our past relationships. However, unless someone is for some reason interested (or thinks it's only fair, which is understandable) I don't see any reason to get detailed about my own. Not because of privacy or something like that, I honestly don't mind at all, but because it'd take a while to type. Gotta tell the bad with the good right? I will say that there have been 7 girls in my life that had an impact on me, all in different ways.
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Post by zoza on Jun 21, 2005 23:28:36 GMT -5
I hope it works out with you and Chrissy, Forlong.
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Post by fazhou on Jun 21, 2005 23:55:20 GMT -5
Shoot, my experience probably parallels Ron's with Kim more than just about anyone else.
Even though we didn't meet in childhood, my wife and I were always "best friends." We were never "head over heals," it just was a natural thing for us to go over to each other's place or go out and have fun.
Marilyn was adored by my whole family, and I got along well with hers...and so we were already considered part of each family before we even announced our engagement.
14 years later, we're still in the "best friend" mode.
A lot of times we can mistake the "head over heals" thing for true love. That can blind us to differences that down the road lead to relationship problems.
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Post by Forlong on Jun 21, 2005 23:56:08 GMT -5
Heh, I didn't realize we were posting all of our past relationships. Only if you want to.
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Post by cloudmonet on Jun 22, 2005 0:31:58 GMT -5
Hmm. Childhood sweethearts can grow up and get married, not real commonly, maybe, but this romance format is ideally suited to television shows which have many episodes and things must change slowly.
People can fall in love at first sight and get married and maybe even stay that way, also not super common, but this romance format is ideally suited to movies in which everything has to happen in about two hours.
Romances of intermediate nature, probably the most common sort, would fit dramatization formats of intermediate length and pacing, which are rare dramatization formats.
Why complain? In Kim and Ron we have an unusually tight friendship, which blossums into romance. In their particular situation, if this didn't happen, life as they know it wouldn't continue. The partnership demands it. Romance with other people would be an unsatisfying distraction.
Does this kind of transition really happen? A lot more often than teenaged commandos fight mad scientists, but no one complains about this happening.
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