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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 21, 2006 10:47:14 GMT -5
I'm wondering, does anybody who reads or write fanfiction, especially with KP, have any certain type of fanfic that they will not read, end of story? A certain topic or thing in a story that will make you so mad that you consider the author to be trash for writing it? What are the things you don't like to see in fanfiction about KP? If so, what is it and why?
For me, there are three main things that I do not like to see in KP fanfiction at ALL (there are more, but I'm not gonna go into it):
1. The death of a character in the show-- I do not care if it's a background character or even if it's Kim or Ron. I do not like it. I mean, I can understand if it's for a few chapters and then bringing the character back (which is what I've done, but only once), but to kill a character that we've watched and loved for so long is just... it's just one of those things.
2. Rape-- There have been waaay too many fics in which a character is rape, usually Kim, sometimes even Ron. I'm sick of reading them. To me, any writer that has the audacity to even put that into fanfic is scum. I mean, it's a horrible thing in general, and to do it to a character who you like is just messed up.
3. Breaking up Kim and Ron's friendship-- I have read plenty of fics that do this and I refuse to even consider it in my own fics. As a fan of the show, Kim and Ron's relationship is sacred and to see Kim and Ron lose their friendship is just... it breaks my heart in general. I know it's fanfiction, and not real, but still...
All three of these tend to stay in my mind for a while and won't leave me alone after I read them, which is why I don't like them.
So, what about you all?
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Post by zaratan on Feb 21, 2006 11:01:17 GMT -5
Okay... you'll never be reading my main series...  And my Shego prequel REALLY went out the window! Wait... checking it... ALL RIGHT! This one, I haven't done! Well... maybe... provided Kim takes the news well in my Ron/Bon side story... Okay, but you should still like my Impossible Love... right...? |
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 21, 2006 11:06:13 GMT -5
Good question... I dunno.
How about your no-no's in fanfics? Obviously not the same as mine.
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Post by Commander Argus on Feb 21, 2006 11:12:35 GMT -5
Oh, the first one I don't think is a deal killer for Z. He's left quite a trail of corpses in his main series.
I can't do 'deathfic' I just don't have the need to read or write about one or the other having to deal with that kind of loss. KP is a positive story and that's one of the reasons I'm attracted to it. Now, the heroic death of a character is something else entirely.
As for his second point, it's a real deal-breaker for me. I couldn't get past the first chapter of "Buried" despite all the recomendatioins. Again, it's getting away from the reasons I'm attracted to the show.
I don't even like to read fics where they break up romantically after StD, so anything that breaks them up as friends, unless it's meant to bring them back together later, stronger. I can see them SLOWLY drifting apart if the romance dies, but never entirely.
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Post by zaratan on Feb 21, 2006 11:29:14 GMT -5
There are no real NO type stories for me, so long as it is handled well. Of course, the harder the subject, such as rape, the more well done that story has to be to keep me reading it.
That first chapter of Buried is what drew me into fanfiction again. That was just so powerfully done that I just had to continue. I read the entire series that night, staying up well into the morning. If it hadn't been for that one chapter... I don't know if I would be here, and writing fanfictions.
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Post by JuPMod on Feb 21, 2006 11:38:53 GMT -5
Well, for those who don't like reading Kim and Ron breaking up, don't bother reading my 'Reflections Universe'. It started with a single oneshot that wasn't intended to be expanded, but after reading reviews asking for more and my mind started churning, I'd written more and before I know it, it became its own series. So stay away from it. 'The University Years' however have Kim and Ron together, so go read that as well as "Another Stoppable Day."  For me, my no-no's are this... 1) Slash. Not my cup of tea, therefore I will not read Kigo unless it suddenly becomes a three-way relationship K/S/R. The only Kigo I did read was where it showed Ron and Yori together, and that was the only reason I read the fic, for the R/Y stuff, not the Kigo stuff. BTW, I'm not anti-slash. I respect those who do write and draw slash. It's just not my cup of tea. 'Kay?  2) Extreme 'bad parents' fics. Like making the Stoppables really bad people who abuse, etc. I read one fic long ago where both Ron's 'rents were really bad people who abuse their son. I can't see them being that bad given what I've seen on the show, neither with the Possibles. I just can't see them that way. 3) Making Yori a bad, bad person. I'm sorry, but I love Yori just as much as Kim, and anyone who writes Yori become a bad guy monster, etc. will eat knuckle sandwich from me. G-Go came close to making Yori really bad in "Union", but he redeem her, so I was able to accept the story. Other than these three, I can't think of anything else I have on my fanfic reading 'no-no' list. |
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 21, 2006 11:40:17 GMT -5
Bad parent fics are kind of annoying as well... heck, they are the reason I hate the Ron's parents.
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Post by allaine on Feb 21, 2006 11:45:14 GMT -5
Actually, for me the first NO is writing style. Sometimes there are stories where I just have to read the summary, and there are obvious spelling mistakes, poor grammar, or simply something that makes me slap my forehead and think, "Oy, where is this person's brain?". And I skip past those.
I'm not big on rape/death, but death is not a dealbreaker unless the story obsesses over it, or goes overboard with it. Rape . . . if it's written responsibly and not used as a cheap gimmick, I'm willing to continue.
Any cliche like "suicidal Ron" is a definite NO.
I tend to avoid crossovers that, IMO, don't make a lot of sense. A summary that says "KP/Star Wars", for example, makes me run in the opposite direction. I'm not saying there's necessarily BAD. I'm just saying it's not my cup of tea.
Stories that malign certain characters. I just don't understand why certain people like Yori and Josh get such abuse. A story that made, say, Yori into a jealous, vindictive, man-stealing harpy would bother me immensely. On the other hand, if Bonnie was the jealous, vindictive, man-stealing harpy, that would be all right, because it's more in character for her.
Sincerely, Allaine
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Post by Panther on Feb 21, 2006 11:52:34 GMT -5
Those crappy, angsty "The main character is dying" fics that people are constantly making. MAKE THEM STOP!
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 21, 2006 12:12:21 GMT -5
Those crappy, angsty "The main character is dying" fics that people are constantly making. MAKE THEM STOP! Those piss me off to no end. I'm sick of seeing fics in which the characters are dying. |
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Post by Commander Argus on Feb 21, 2006 12:15:26 GMT -5
I'll third that. I've been ambushed with those fics from time to time by authors I otherwise like.
I'll say it again, I want a positive experience. Happy endings, hakuna matata and all that!
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Post by drakkenfan on Feb 21, 2006 12:19:13 GMT -5
None of those things have happened in any of my fanfics. No deaths, no rape, and Kim and Ron will always be friends  |
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 21, 2006 12:19:40 GMT -5
Amen to that, Commander. drakkenfan, I applaud you for that. |
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Post by campy on Feb 21, 2006 12:22:54 GMT -5
Songfics. Hate 'em with a passion.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 21, 2006 12:24:42 GMT -5
I personally never really understood the point of songfics.
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Post by The Marvelous Me on Feb 21, 2006 12:30:26 GMT -5
1). Any pairing that isn't K/R. Ironically as much as I tend to abuse it sometimes, I'm a stickler for canon when it comes to reading fics and therefore R/K must end up together. I have nothing against any other pairing and I'll read fics with those pairings but they have to be very good.
2). Bad grammar. If I can't make out what your writing or if I have to copy the text into Word and run a grammar check and then go over it myself, I'm not going to read it.
3). Angsty suicidal Ron and preppy queen-***** Kim fics.
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Post by drakkenfan on Feb 21, 2006 12:31:13 GMT -5
Yeah.. I don't like song fics either. Even if it's a song I know. It's just weird to read the lyrics as part of a story.
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Post by Ashley Benlove on Feb 21, 2006 12:34:54 GMT -5
The way I see it, a song isn't gonna help describe what's going on. For me, it's easier to say it straight out. And there's another thing I hate. Hatefics. You know those people who write fanfics that completely bash the characters because they hate the show or something? Fanfiction is called that for a reason. Because, it's supposed to be fans. |
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Post by Aers (That Writer Chick) on Feb 21, 2006 12:35:28 GMT -5
songfics are usually, sorry to say, the last cheap refuge of a fanfic writer who wants to get a story out there but doesn't want to actually WRITE anything... it's easy to choose a cute, romantic song and have the characters dance while having a discussion either verbally or through their inner thoughts and all that. bad grammar and spelling, well... that goes without saying. If I see it in the summary I'm outta there fast.  |
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Post by Commander Argus on Feb 21, 2006 12:46:24 GMT -5
I've had several instances where the music they are listening to, dancing to or even singing plays a part in the story (I have a scene where Shego is singing Gretchen Wilson's "All Jacked Up") but I don't post the lyrics. Just not my cup of Coco Moo. If it's a popular song from the real world, then I leave it up to the reader to be familiar with it. Come on, I've got Kim and Ron on a date where the singer is actually CCR, if you don't know the lyrics to "Could it Be" and "Say the word..."
Some of the songfics seem like just a lame way to boost the word count. I've seen songfics where there are 10-20 words of original story and the rest is the song. That's not even original.
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