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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 7, 2007 14:46:55 GMT -5
I think some people have too high of expectations for the fandom. The arguing will never stop. Her legacy will always be the subject of arguments. It will never change. It's attitudes like that that keep arguments going. The sooner people A) find a compromise or B) agree to disagree, the sooner all this arguing can end. Seriously what gives some of you the idea that the fandom could be perfect and peaceful? I'm sorry that you guys don't like that I'm a Realist. That's what I am. |
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Post by cpneb on Oct 7, 2007 14:47:31 GMT -5
Slick, do you realize that it is because of attitudes like yours that this fandom will never be at peace?  I'm a realist. I believe however, sir, that your perception of realism is a bit "Jaded" (pun intended, from the Jade-shipper). I do find it ironic, however, that, with what was originally not planned and became 'possible,' you cannot consider the possibility that something different might be 'possible' in another's view of an alternate world to the 'evidence' of the show. If that is your belief, then I wish you well, bon chance, and good luck. We will never agree, and I hope that you consider Alexlayer's comments seriously as you move forward with your life. I've seen far too many heart attacks and other conditions brought about by the unwillingness to consider the 'possibility.' |
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 7, 2007 14:49:47 GMT -5
I do find it ironic, however, that, with what was originally not planned and became 'possible,' you cannot consider the possibility that something different might be 'possible' in another's view of an alternate world to the 'evidence' of the show. I don't know what you are referring to or what you are getting at. It's been stated that K/R were meant to get together from the start. So besides that I don't know what you are talking about. What have I done that makes that Ironic? I hope that you consider Alexlayer's comments seriously as you move forward with your life. I've seen far too many heart attacks and other conditions brought about by the unwillingness to consider the 'possibility.' Heart attacks come from not thinking somethings possible? I did not know that. |
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 7, 2007 15:03:38 GMT -5
It's attitudes like that that keep arguments going. The sooner people A) find a compromise or B) agree to disagree, the sooner all this arguing can end. Seriously what gives some of you the idea that the fandom could be perfect and peaceful? I'm sorry that you guys don't like that I'm a Realist. That's what I am. You're also Intolerant. And that's never been good for arguments. |
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Oct 7, 2007 15:14:06 GMT -5
Seriously what gives some of you the idea that the fandom could be perfect and peaceful? I'm sorry that you guys don't like that I'm a Realist. That's what I am. You're also Intolerant. And that's never been a good thing. Says who? Let's see a record of what intolerance has done... - Intolerance for Nazi beliefs led World War II and saved who knows how many Jewish lives. -Intolerance for disrespect gained civil rights for a ton of minority groups. -Intolerance for British oppression made the United States declare its independence. Want me to go on? |
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 7, 2007 15:17:42 GMT -5
You're also Intolerant. And that's never been a good thing. Says who? Let's see a record of what intolerance has done... - Intolerance for Nazi beliefs led World War II and saved who knows how many Jewish lives. -Intolerance for disrespect gained civil rights for a ton of minority groups. -Intolerance for taxation without representation made the United States. Want me to go on? Granted, I should've worded that better. Intolerance of a difference of opinion and intolerance of injustice are two different things. |
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Oct 7, 2007 15:19:47 GMT -5
Says who? Let's see a record of what intolerance has done... - Intolerance for Nazi beliefs led World War II and saved who knows how many Jewish lives. -Intolerance for disrespect gained civil rights for a ton of minority groups. -Intolerance for taxation without representation made the United States. Want me to go on? Granted, I should've worded that better. Intolerance of a difference of opinion and intolerance of injustice are two different things. Well, look from our view. Fics that break up canon pairings are an INJUSTICE to the characters. A DISRESPECT to the creators. |
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Post by cpneb on Oct 7, 2007 15:19:52 GMT -5
Seriously what gives some of you the idea that the fandom could be perfect and peaceful? I'm sorry that you guys don't like that I'm a Realist. That's what I am. You're also Intolerant. And that's never been good for arguments. A realist would, IMHO, accept the fact that his/her beliefs are not absolute (unless, of course, they are the second coming). And, regarding intolerance: that, more than the perceived realism, may be the issue that vexes me so, because I've faced it so much in my life and the life of my family and others not of my race or religious beliefs. regarding heart attacks? elevated stress leves can cause elevated blood pressure; that can lead to strokes, heart attackes, and several other life-shortening events. I'd talk to a doctor about stress, if you choose to not believe me (I don't think it's mentioned n the show, so it may not be canon). |
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Post by cpneb on Oct 7, 2007 15:23:36 GMT -5
You're also Intolerant. And that's never been a good thing. Says who? Let's see a record of what intolerance has done... - Intolerance for Nazi beliefs led World War II and saved who knows how many Jewish lives. -Intolerance for disrespect gained civil rights for a ton of minority groups. -Intolerance for British oppression made the United States declare its independence. Want me to go on? It was intolerance, sir, that caused the events in question. It was the rejection of that intolerance that resulted in the occurences that you listed, sir. And, those minority groups brought you such things as blood transplants and understanding of rights for all, not just them.... |
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 7, 2007 15:25:24 GMT -5
Well, look from our view. Fics that break up canon pairings are an INJUSTICE to the characters. A DISRESPECT to the creators. Ding Ding Ding. That's exactly how I feel. |
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 7, 2007 15:35:38 GMT -5
Granted, I should've worded that better. Intolerance of a difference of opinion and intolerance of injustice are two different things. Well, look from our view. Fics that break up canon pairings are an INJUSTICE to the characters. A DISRESPECT to the creators. I see it from your view. I just don't quite agree with it. I don't see how it should hurt anybody's feelings when someone pairs Ron or Kim off with some one else in a story they posted on the internet for fun. |
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Oct 7, 2007 15:36:48 GMT -5
Well, look from our view. Fics that break up canon pairings are an INJUSTICE to the characters. A DISRESPECT to the creators. I see it from your view. I just don't quite agree with it. I don't see how it should hurt anybody's feelings when someone pairs Ron or Kim off with some one else in a story they posted on the internet for fun. Yes, something that we view as an injustice and disrespect is SO inoffensive to us. |
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Post by TheToothWitch on Oct 7, 2007 15:39:11 GMT -5
This is the funniest thread ever, for all reasons ;D
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 7, 2007 15:46:42 GMT -5
I see it from your view. I just don't quite agree with it. I don't see how it should hurt anybody's feelings when someone pairs Ron or Kim off with some one else in a story they posted on the internet for fun. Yes, something that we view as an injustice and disrespect is SO inoffensive to us. Okay. New idea. Let's purge FF.net of all things not KR. After all, non-canon pairing are injustices and injustices must be righted. |
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Oct 7, 2007 15:47:42 GMT -5
Yes, something that we view as an injustice and disrespect is SO inoffensive to us. Okay. New idea. Let's purge FF.net of all things not KR. After all, non-canon pairing are injustices and injustices must be righted. YES! Exactly! Except you forgot D/S. That's canon too, now.  And pairings not involving parties of D/S and K/R remain safe. |
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 7, 2007 15:50:59 GMT -5
Okay. New idea. Let's purge FF.net of all things not KR. After all, non-canon pairing are injustices and injustices must be righted. YES! Exactly! Except you forgot D/S. That's canon too, now. *opens mouth, then closes it again* ...Okay, I'm not about to start up THAT argument too. |
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Oct 7, 2007 15:54:09 GMT -5
YES! Exactly! Except you forgot D/S. That's canon too, now. *opens mouth, then closes it again* ...Okay, I'm not about to start up THAT argument too. Yes, I know it'll never happen. Note the wink. But, if I was running FF.NET, that's how things would work. Each section would have a moderator, who would delete fics that: a)break canon pairings or b) Have mutilated characters to the point of being new characters who stole the names. |
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Post by cpneb on Oct 7, 2007 15:56:01 GMT -5
YES! Exactly! Except you forgot D/S. That's canon too, now. *opens mouth, then closes it again* ...Okay, I'm not about to start up THAT argument too. how about you don't read them, and you have no worries. We tried prohibition before: to quote Miss Go: "It never works!" It's working as well today, as it did with alcohol, with the 'war on drugs.' try again, y'all. |
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Post by cpneb on Oct 7, 2007 15:58:47 GMT -5
*opens mouth, then closes it again* ...Okay, I'm not about to start up THAT argument too. Yes, I know it'll never happen. Note the wink. But, if I was running FF.NET, that's how things would work. Each section would have a moderator, who would delete fics that: a)break canon pairings or b) Have mutilated characters to the point of being new characters who stole the names. Sir, this is one of the few groups that has these arguments. Other shows have no issues, and their characters are played by people, not animated. try again, y'all. Find an inclusive solution (or at least attempt to find one) before you shoot yourselves in the feet...seriously. |
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 7, 2007 15:58:49 GMT -5
*opens mouth, then closes it again* ...Okay, I'm not about to start up THAT argument too. Yes, I know it'll never happen. Note the wink. But, if I was running FF.NET, that's how things would work. Each section would have a moderator, who would delete fics that: a)break canon pairings or b) Have mutilated characters to the point of being new characters who stole the names. Seriously? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having the site at all? And beyond KP, what about, say, Friends, where pairings switch up every other episode? "That's not Canon! Ross and Rachel are Canon!" "No they're not! Ross is still married to that other girl!" ".....So?" |
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And pairings not involving parties of D/S and K/R remain safe.