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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Oct 9, 2007 20:39:25 GMT -5
On the pairing... I never realized that the character drops on the ff.net were meant first and first most for romantic shippings. I thought they were just there to announce the major characters of the fic. Well, I believe it is meant to announce which character have a major role in the fic, but if you're writting a K/R fic, which characters would fit better than Kim and Ron? I understand that, but I have had so many confusions on my fic that just because I have two people listed as the main characters they must be shipped together in my fic. Which I can finally understand now. It's caused a lot of hard feelings. I still have someone furious at me that one of my Harry Potter fics did not turn out to be incestuous after all. |
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Post by JuPMod on Oct 9, 2007 21:06:11 GMT -5
On the pairing... I never realized that the character drops on the ff.net were meant first and first most for romantic shippings. I thought they were just there to announce the major characters of the fic. Well, I believe it is meant to announce which character have a major role in the fic, but if you're writting a K/R fic, which characters would fit better than Kim and Ron? What about those whose fics do not even fit given not *all* the characters are listed in the two character drops? Like say R/Y, because Yori is not even listed in the character drop. Thus for my fic "A Bond of Honor", I really am confuse how to even use the character drops. I know Ron is a major character in the fic, yet with no Yori in the drops, I can't even label it as R/Y except for the beginning author notes in chapter 1. For a time, I listed Kim in the second drop, but I realized that confused some readers, given they expect the fic to be K/R despite my beginning author notes. |
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Post by Alexlayer on Oct 9, 2007 21:46:29 GMT -5
Which I can finally understand now. It's caused a lot of hard feelings. I still have someone furious at me that one of my Harry Potter fics did not turn out to be incestuous after all. XD Well, I believe it is meant to announce which character have a major role in the fic, but if you're writting a K/R fic, which characters would fit better than Kim and Ron? What about those whose fics do not even fit given not *all* the characters are listed in the two character drops? Like say R/Y, because Yori is not even listed in the character drop. The only solution I could suggest then would be to put K/Y in the summary. Thus for my fic "A Bond of Honor", I really am confuse how to even use the character drops. I know Ron is a major character in the fic, yet with no Yori in the drops, I can't even label it as R/Y except for the beginning author notes in chapter 1. For a time, I listed Kim in the second drop, but I realized that confused some readers, given they expect the fic to be K/R despite my beginning author notes. Unfortunatelly, some people just don't read the author notes. |
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Post by Mickey on Oct 9, 2007 21:47:08 GMT -5
Honestly I don't like all these new rating proposals. I don't see anything wrong with how it is now. All I ask is that it's made clear what the rating and pairing is. From that I will know if I want to read it or not. All these proposals are just making it confusing. What if an author is writing a story that isn't based on pairings, and actually has a plot that is more than just getting so and so together with whatshername? |
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Post by Robbie Valiant, P.I. on Oct 9, 2007 21:56:20 GMT -5
What if an author is writing a story that isn't based on pairings, and actually has a plot that is more than just getting so and so together with whatshername? Exactly! Like my epilogue to HU, that's entire point was to appease my sense of justice against Bonnie. I had to have a disclaimer in the summary it wasn't *shudders* KiBon. Or Inner Machinations of a Controlled Mind, my inner dialogue/epilogue for Kim in "Twin Factor." |
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 9, 2007 22:17:58 GMT -5
What if an author is writing a story that isn't based on pairings, and actually has a plot that is more than just getting so and so together with whatshername? If theres no pairing in the story then theres no need to make pairings clear. |
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Post by Mickey on Oct 9, 2007 22:24:56 GMT -5
What if an author is writing a story that isn't based on pairings, and actually has a plot that is more than just getting so and so together with whatshername? If theres no pairing in the story then theres no need to make pairings clear. So let's say you're reading a story, and after about eight chapters into it, you find yourself really enjoying the plot and the way the story is written. At this point, the author is looking over what he has written so far and realizes he has untentionally laid the ground work for a non canon relationship. Not only that, but including this relationship would actually help advance the plot and/or add more to the story. Would you suddenly stop reading because it's a non canon paring despite having enjoyed the story so far? |
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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Oct 9, 2007 22:42:39 GMT -5
Again, why is everyone so gall-dern concerned with the pairings?! Like my Monte Cristo fic... it's in the romance genre, yet I realized a long time ago it was not going to be shippy.
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Post by Alexlayer on Oct 9, 2007 22:52:08 GMT -5
Again, why is everyone so gall-dern concerned with the pairings?! Like my Monte Cristo fic... it's in the romance genre, yet I realized a long time ago it was not going to be shippy. KP's most part of Fanfiction, I believe, it's based on Pairings, sometimes as the main plot or sometimes as a secondary element. But still, that's how it is. KP is not a show we watch because of plots. Many episodes are quite predictable and rarely surprising. The characters are the main attraction of this universe, and because of that, the attention is drawn around her and, consequently, into their romantic lives. And that's what Fanfiction is mostly based on. |
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 9, 2007 23:20:14 GMT -5
Again, why is everyone so gall-dern concerned with the pairings?! Like my Monte Cristo fic... it's in the romance genre, yet I realized a long time ago it was not going to be shippy. KP's most part of Fanfiction, I believe, it's based on Pairings, sometimes as the main plot or sometimes as a secondary element. But still, that's how it is. KP is not a show we watch because of plots. Many episodes are quite predictable and rarely surprising. The characters are the main attraction of this universe, and because of that, the attention is drawn around her and, consequently, into their romantic lives. And that's what Fanfiction is mostly based on. No kidding. I feel I'm in the minority in that I read fics simply for the quality writing and plots, and watch the show for the humor and character interactions (and that means all of them, not just K/R). I'm a fan of K/R (fan, not a shipper) because the pairing makes sense and was pulled off very well in StD. The writers did a good job of expanding the relationship without taking anything away from the show in season 4, but that didn't make it the reason I watched. |
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 9, 2007 23:46:13 GMT -5
Would you suddenly stop reading because it's a non canon paring despite having enjoyed the story so far? Yes, I would stop reading. |
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Post by mike on Oct 10, 2007 1:59:19 GMT -5
If theres no pairing in the story then theres no need to make pairings clear. So let's say you're reading a story, and after about eight chapters into it, you find yourself really enjoying the plot and the way the story is written. At this point, the author is looking over what he has written so far and realizes he has untentionally laid the ground work for a non canon relationship. Not only that, but including this relationship would actually help advance the plot and/or add more to the story. Would you suddenly stop reading because it's a non canon paring despite having enjoyed the story so far? It depends what kind of ship? I mean if its like Brick/Monique, Wade/Joss, Arty/Joss, heck I'm still going to read it to the last page, however if its same sex.... I'll probably drop it... I don't mean to be mean at someone around here, but I just don't like slash ships. |
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 10, 2007 7:24:53 GMT -5
So let's say you're reading a story, and after about eight chapters into it, you find yourself really enjoying the plot and the way the story is written. At this point, the author is looking over what he has written so far and realizes he has untentionally laid the ground work for a non canon relationship. Not only that, but including this relationship would actually help advance the plot and/or add more to the story. Would you suddenly stop reading because it's a non canon paring despite having enjoyed the story so far? It depends what kind of ship? I mean if its like Brick/Monique, Wade/Joss, Arty/Joss, heck I'm still going to read it to the last page, however if its same sex.... I'll probably drop it... I don't mean to be mean at someone around here, but I just don't like slash ships. Yeah, I should clarify I would only stop reading it if it seperated or did not have K/R together. |
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Post by Ninnik Nishukan on Oct 10, 2007 9:16:49 GMT -5
Ditto here. I would stop reading it if it broke up D/S, because I would most likely have been looking for a D/S fic when I started reading, anyway. Breaking up other pairings I couldn't care less about, though.   I have enjoyed some fics that didn't involve Drakken or Shego at all, however. |
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Post by yvj on Oct 10, 2007 10:33:52 GMT -5
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Post by Alexlayer on Oct 10, 2007 11:53:53 GMT -5
yvj... *sigh*... whatever. Ditto here. I would stop reading it if it broke up D/S, because I would most likely have been looking for a D/S fic when I started reading, anyway. Breaking up other pairings I couldn't care less about, though. I don't think many writters are going to take Graduation's resolution as a rule that Drakken and Shego are a couple, anyway. Or are you talking about breaking their team?
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Post by Ninnik Nishukan on Oct 10, 2007 13:00:23 GMT -5
yvj... *sigh*... whatever. Ditto here. I would stop reading it if it broke up D/S, because I would most likely have been looking for a D/S fic when I started reading, anyway. Breaking up other pairings I couldn't care less about, though. I don't think many writters are going to take Graduation's resolution as a rule that Drakken and Shego are a couple, anyway. Or are you talking about breaking their team? Yeah, I was talking about their team.  Even if D/S can be seen as a couple now, not all fics are set post-grad, either, so yes...the team. |
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Post by NewSkool101 on Oct 10, 2007 13:44:35 GMT -5
yvj... *sigh*... whatever. I don't think many writters are going to take Graduation's resolution as a rule that Drakken and Shego are a couple, anyway. Or are you talking about breaking their team? Yeah, I was talking about their team. Even if D/S can be seen as a couple now, not all fics are set post-grad, either, so yes...the team. You don't know that they'd stay broken up though. Shego started off season 4 working with Ed and Junior while leaving Drakken to rot in jail till Warmonga broke him out and basically became Shego's replacement. You could say that Shego would've broken Drakken out eventually, but we'll never know that for sure. It could've appeared to some that the D/S team was through. But even after that, they still ended up working together again. Why? I don't really know. |
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Post by Mickey on Oct 10, 2007 13:56:51 GMT -5
It depends what kind of ship? I mean if its like Brick/Monique, Wade/Joss, Arty/Joss, heck I'm still going to read it to the last page, however if its same sex.... I'll probably drop it... I don't mean to be mean at someone around here, but I just don't like slash ships. Yeah, I should clarify I would only stop reading it if it seperated or did not have K/R together. What if it is pre-StD? |
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Post by Scoutcraft Piratess on Oct 10, 2007 18:51:02 GMT -5
Personally, I find it very sad and even a bit pathetic that people would stop reading a high-quality piece of fanfiction just because the ship did not turn out the way they expected. Do people really not care about decent writing and plot? I'm not talking about the show, I'm talking about the fanfiction.
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Even if D/S can be seen as a couple now, not all fics are set post-grad, either, so yes...the team.